Mass Shooting In San Bernardino, California

By Laboured Go To PostHas your sister ever considered the analogous connection between the noun 'reason' and 'causation'?

Although considering that she thinks that prayer has some effect on some future event I don't think the above will assist in her intellectual plight.

I'm convinced that there's a ton of things she must not ever consider to keep holding on to faith in that way.

By Laboured Go To PostHope this gets traction.

Just take a look at the comments on the Daily News twitter who published the photo there.
It's mindblowing.

People accuse them of "prayer shaming".

Please don't start with religion bashing here. Wrong place.

By giririsss Go To PostPlease don't start with religion bashing here. Wrong place.

Its not religion bashing...

I thought it was incompetent politician bashing.

What the shit is prayer shaming? You can't just call something shaming because you disagree with it....

Anyway, here's the real problem:


I took this tonight while shopping for gifts. It's a grill lighter in the shape of the same gun that was used at Sandyhook three years ago to murder a bunch of children and teachers. It's the AR-15.

This is an official product of the National Rifle Association, who you would think would want to distance themselves from a weapon used in such a heinous event in US history. But nope. They've doubled down and in fact spent even more money than ever promoting the gun and using the tragedy as a tool to scare people into going out and buying them in droves, which they did, which resulted in the largest company on earth, Walmart, to proudly announce that they were no longer going to carry the weapon because of poor sales. Everyone who wants one has this gun you see...

This is from a firearm retailer in Alabama regarding the expected sales of the weapon over the next fiscal year:

To illustrate the point that the market is changing, let’s pick on the No. 1 selling firearm in America, the “Black Rifle” AR-15. The historic explosion of new AR manufacturers began just prior to the 2008 election and has not stopped since. From only the year 2000, we shot from 29 or so AR manufacturers to an estimated 500 by 2015; a stunning 1,700 percent increase. - tacretailer.com

29 manufacturers to 500 in a matter of one black president. America in a nutshell.

We're a country of racist, Jesus loving hypocrites who are living in the middle ages.

Say or think what you want about the right, far right or tea party, these are the motherfuckers that get out and vote and that is why nothing will change anytime soon.

Can't wait to see how fox ne.. I mean Trump spins this to his "supporters" insane maniacs.

when walmart announced they weren't going to sell guns anymore my first thought was "What the fuck?! They sold guns on fucking Wal Mart in America? What the fuck is wrong with them, are guns comparable to dairy and toilet paper?"
The gun worship is just so alien to me.

By Xpike Go To Postwhen walmart announced they weren't going to sell guns anymore my first thought was "What the fuck?! They sold guns on fucking Wal Mart in America? What the fuck is wrong with them, are guns comparable to dairy and toilet paper?"
The gun worship is just so alien to me.

til the aliens come

By DY_nasty Go To Posttil the aliens come

That's why they trying to build a fence around Mexico doe

any word on motive?

Reports that one suspect was a Qatari citizen?

@NBCNews

JUST IN: Suspect in #SanBernardino shooting ID'd as Syed Farook; Another believed to be Farook's brother: Sources http://nbcnews.to/1jzGUyd
6:21 PM - 2 Dec 2015
NBC News
At Least 14 Dead in California Shooting, Two Suspects Killed - NBC News

L.A. Times: L.A. Now
One suspect in #SanBernardino shooting identified as Syed Farook, a U.S. citizen http://lat.ms/1HGEZDS
6:47 PM - 2 Dec 2015 · Los Angeles, CA, United States
Los Angeles Times
Shooters in black masks kill 14 and wound 17 others at holiday party in San Bernardino

@RickSerranoLAT

#SanBernadino police just released the name of one suspect as Tayyeep Bin Ardogan, a 28 year-old Qatari citizen.
8:29 PM - 2 Dec 2015

wonder what their motives where.
disgruntled employees maybe?

By blackace Go To Postany word on motive?

They're still saying disgruntled employee.

Can't really understand how they got their friends to suit up and throw their lives away, too, though.

sounds like disgruntled employee

Griselda Reisinger, a former co-worker of Syed Farook, said Farook worked as a food inspector and flew under the radar at San Bernardino County's relatively small public health department.

“He was very quiet,” said Reisinger, who worked for 11 years as an environmental inspector. “I would say hi and bye, but we never engaged him in conversation. He didn’t say much at all.”

Reisinger said she remembered Farook attending last year's holiday party, held in the same conference room.

She heard from colleagues that the department held a baby shower for Farook and that he recently returned from paternity leave.

Reisinger left the job in May. She said the department was in turmoil, with many workers leaving over the last year because of problems with management.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html

Those names.

The right is going to lose their fucking minds

Fuck, I was hoping they'd be white. Got to buy up more Lockheed stock in the morning now.

By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostThose names.

The right is going to lose their fucking minds

Trump gonna trump and Cruz gonna Cruz

By Fenderputty Go To PostTrump gonna trump and Cruz gonna Cruz

If we're lucky that's the least that will happen.

Rick Serrano
Rick Serrano – Verified account ‏@RickSerranoLAT

SB police clarifying that 2nd name was not released by them. Appears now to be a hoax. We are disregarding.
9:07 PM - 2 Dec 2015
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By Fenderputty Go To PostRick Serrano
Rick Serrano – Verified account ‏@RickSerranoLAT

SB police clarifying that 2nd name was not released by them. Appears now to be a hoax. We are disregarding.

Good thing some journalists aren't trying to be the first with their breaking news shit, and wait until they got proper sources.

Its best to just wait on the press getting the right names... especially these days

Best to just wait a couple days. Also some people gonna be quick to out anyone who's Muslim as a nondomestic even if they are several generations strong.

you shouldve heard AM radio today.
they were talking to every and any source on social media.
you couldn't tell what was fact or speculation

All the broadcast news is more concerned with whatever is floating around and reporting it first, not reporting facts.

At least reddit hasn't gone and started doing their own investigations and accusing innocent people like during the Boston Marathon incident.

I turned it off super early. I've been avoiding it all day. Going back to cnn.com every few hours to see if there's more information.

By reilo Go To PostAt least reddit hasn't gone and started doing their own investigations and accusing innocent people like during the Boston Marathon incident.

I believe the new reddit doesn't allow stalking.

By Pennywise Go To PostGood thing some journalists aren't trying to be the first with their breaking news shit, and wait until they got proper sources.

Heh. Dude made this tweet 30 minutes after he posted the second name. Journalism sucks in this Internet age

By Fenderputty Go To PostHeh. Dude made this tweet 30 minutes after he posted the second name. Journalism sucks in this Internet age

Ye, sorry was just an sarcastic remark.
It's indeed disgusting how quick everyone wants to be.
And how people eat up every bit of it, instead of waiting on some proper sources.

wrong thread

By Pennywise Go To PostYe, sorry was just an sarcastic remark.
It's indeed disgusting how quick everyone wants to be.
And how people eat up every bit of it, instead of waiting on some proper sources.

I caught the sarcasm, which was why I said heh. I agreed with you, man ;)

Don't think this ends up being disgruntled employee. The guy had a newborn. Too much planning and everyone said he was a polite and quiet coworker. Pipe bombs also.

Per the recent press brief:

Haven't ruled out terrorism, but won't speculate motive yet.

Confirmed 2 shooters. 3rd person in custody may not be involved.

Farook's GF is the second shooter and no info on where she's from.

.223 rifles and handguns.

Explosives left behind, the three of them disposed of.

Its gonna be a week before we get all the info.

By Jay Whatever Go To PostThe details don't even make sense, if they're accurate. Supposedly one person was having an argument inside the place, left, then came back with friends, guns, and body armor. What the hell kind of escalation is that? How the hell do you have two friends willing to do that?

It really doesn't. It's got to be something else to have someone else tag along and do that.

CNN reporting Farook was radicalized. No definitive statement about motive, but it's looking more and more like a terror attack. I guess he left a remote bomb like the boston marathon bomb behind too.

i feel nauseous

edit: apparently there are still victim's bodies laying in the crime scenes. forensic investigators still sifting through

:(

By K@do Go To Posti feel nauseous

edit: apparently there are still victim's bodies laying in the crime scenes. forensic investigators still sifting through

Fuck me that is rough to look at

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/us/tashfeen-malik-islamic-state.html

Now they're saying they were ISIS inspired, but there's no evidence as of yet that they're part of a larger group operating in the states. That makes more sense.

I'm still trying to figure out what kind of relationship they had to have in order to both suit up, commit mass murder, and leave a kid behind

Yeah, I don't get making that turn with a newborn.

By DY_nasty Go To PostI'm still trying to figure out what kind of relationship they had to have in order to both suit up, commit mass murder, and leave a kid behind

A 6 month old too.

if someone told me that mind control was real, then it'd be a lot easier to believe... don't think i've ever even heard of something like this

just a recap of what i've heard:
-they're reporting they weren't even done yet because they had more arsenal and explosives in their home.
-husband/wife with 6month old and dropped off the child at their grandma's house prior to the shootings.
-radicalized but no factual proof to any isis ties
-no motives yet
-a neighbor wanted to report them before the incident as she saw numerous amounts of packages coming in and the husband/wife were always in the garage but she didn't want to say anything because she didn't want to look like a xenophobe. (verbatim)

it still blows my mind that two parents are willing to do this with a 6month old.

By K@do Go To Postjust a recap of what i've heard:
-they're reporting they weren't even done yet because they had more arsenal and explosives in their home.
-husband/wife with 6month old and dropped off the child at their grandma's house prior to the shootings.
-radicalized but no factual proof to any isis ties
-no motives yet
-a neighbor wanted to report them before the incident as she saw numerous amounts of packages coming in and the husband/wife were always in the garage but she didn't want to say anything because she didn't want to look like a xenophobe. (verbatim)

it still blows my mind that two parents are willing to do this with a 6month old.

goddamn :/

you just know that's gonna get the worst kind of air time...

I mean, if even true. People say all kinda shit during tragedies to prop themselves up. "I knew that boy was up to no good."

It's irrelevant always has been always will be. We can dramatically reduce child molestation and pedophilia by having the police stop and seperate and question every white male in public with kids and force children to carry government issued photo ID's to verify the kids are in fact that father's.

But discriminating based on race and racially profiling isn't wrong because it will never actually catch a criminal, it will and it does.

It's wrong because it's just wrong.

wha?

This is all we talk about at work now