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Suspected 3 gunmen. Shooting took place at a center for the disabled. As many as 20 victims. Shooters not in custody. Bomb squad currently trying to disarm a possible explosive device.
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Suspected 3 gunmen. Shooting took place at a center for the disabled. As many as 20 victims. Shooters not in custody. Bomb squad currently trying to disarm a possible explosive device.
By Jay Whatever Go To PostAnd America shrugged.
The majority of Americans support stricter gun laws.
Congress shrugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QovJ_x9i5X8
Still applies. Past the point of international embarrassment.
Still applies. Past the point of international embarrassment.
3 shooters? naw. that is NOT a regular occurrence
yeah, gun violence? sure. this is some organized crazy shit
yeah, gun violence? sure. this is some organized crazy shit
I'd love to lump this in with the typical deranged worker, hateful bastard, or otherwise uncommon american guy with gun killing unarmed people because reasons
but this is something way bigger. the jump from single shooter to multiple is heavy as fuck.
also, the media coverage of shootings is outright disgusting. lets have people call their missing kids on air ffs. wtf
but this is something way bigger. the jump from single shooter to multiple is heavy as fuck.
also, the media coverage of shootings is outright disgusting. lets have people call their missing kids on air ffs. wtf
By DY_nasty Go To PostI'd love to lump this in with the typical deranged worker, hateful bastard, or otherwise uncommon american guy with gun killing unarmed people because reasons
but this is something way bigger. the jump from single shooter to multiple is heavy as fuck.
also, the media coverage of shootings is outright disgusting. lets have people call their missing kids on air ffs. wtf
I'm sure the directors ironically refer to it as the 'human angle'.
at a disabilities center.
that's just...i dont know brehs.
1 to 3 suspects. no confirmation yet though.
that's just...i dont know brehs.
1 to 3 suspects. no confirmation yet though.
By K@do Go To Postat a disabilities center.Sounds like some of those nuts we saw in the news before, those that occupied a mosque.
that's just…i dont know brehs.
1 to 3 suspects. no confirmation yet though.
I shouldn't jump to conclusions though, just terrible.
Whats next ?
People attacking homeless shelters or orphanages ?
By K@do Go To Postat a disabilities center.Wouldn't be surprised if the "mental illness" rhetoric in the news lead to this but I'll wait and see.
that's just…i dont know brehs.
1 to 3 suspects. no confirmation yet though.
I'd categorize it right with the rest; person(s) who shouldn't have had extremely easy access to firearms, owning and operating firearms to great detriment of the general public.
What possible motive could 3 people have to shoot up such an institution. I hate how in comparison, the PlannedParenthood shooting makes more sense.
What possible motive could 3 people have to shoot up such an institution. I hate how in comparison, the PlannedParenthood shooting makes more sense.
By Moris Go To PostI'd categorize it right with the rest; person(s) who shouldn't have had extremely easy access to firearms, owning and operating firearms to great detriment of the general public.
What possible motive could 3 people have to shoot up such an institution. I hate how in comparison, the PlannedParenthood shooting makes more sense.
The PP shooting was pretty clear cut, they hate women so why not terrorize them?
This makes no sense unless it's just fuckheads from /pol/ or Stormfront or some place like that that want the largest body count possible and think that the developmentally disabled are the best way to achieve that goal.
The media is just assholes. You have a developmentally disabled center shot the fuck up, and they keep harping on about mental illness of shooters. Just no awareness of their own ableist rhetoric.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostThe PP shooting was pretty clear cut, they hate women so why not terrorize them?There are more than enough assholes that think disabled people are some kind of "mistake", I wouldn't rule that possibility out.....
This makes no sense unless it's just fuckheads from /pol/ or Stormfront or some place like that that want the largest body count possible and think that the developmentally disabled are the best way to achieve that goal.
That phenomenon isn't particularly new :/
By KobesAirballs Go To PostThe media is just assholes. You have a developmentally disabled center shot the fuck up, and they keep harping on about mental illness of shooters. Just no awareness of their own ableist rhetoric.
Seriously. Why not have mandatory anger management classes for all American high school students and prevent SO abusers, animal abusers, or Confederate Flag owners from having guns? Oh, I know, because no one gives a shit about the mentally ill. Lincoln (our greatest president ever) and Coolidge (who is revered as a God by the right) were both mentally ill...
By IWMTB19 Go To PostThis makes no sense unless it's just fuckheads from /pol/ or Stormfront or some place like that that want the largest body count possible and think that the developmentally disabled are the best way to achieve that goal.According to some places, the place was holding some sort of event at the time.
I'm hoping (maybe wishing) that this doesn't get lumped into a mental illness thing, because this clearly isn't. One guy? Okay, that crap narrative can exist. Two? Extremely unlikely but positive. Three? Almost absolutely an organized group with clear purpose, direction, and motivation.
"People are not being told to stay indoors, just to be vigilant. We have suspects at large but we have absolutely no idea where they are." - Sgt. Vicki Cervantes, a San Bernardino City Police spokeswoman
Just terrifying.
Just terrifying.
By Wedward Go To Post"People are not being told to stay indoors, just to be vigilant. We have suspects at large but we have absolutely no idea where they are." - Sgt. Vicki Cervantes, a San Bernardino City Police spokeswomanjust saw that
Just terrifying.
*sigh*
Shit sounds organized as fuck.
By DY_nasty Go To Postjust saw thatmost shootings are...
*sigh*
Shit sounds organized as fuck.
By blackace Go To Postmost shootings are…Most shootings end in like... less than 10 minutes if I remember right. Very few, I can't think of many at all really, go on for a period then continue to another place - certainly not in a group.
The amount of situations that go past the hour mark are incredibly minuscule.
edit: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents/pdfs/a-study-of-active-shooter-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013 thing i've used before
but i don't even know if this should count because its already really different. i don't think it qualifies as the typical mass shooting that people have been trying to compare it against.
horrible, hope nobody else gets hurt from here on out.
multiple people makes this even more scary.
(San Bernadino is the name of a small mountain town here and i was really confused for a second when i read the news)
multiple people makes this even more scary.
(San Bernadino is the name of a small mountain town here and i was really confused for a second when i read the news)
By DY_nasty Go To PostMost shootings end in like… less than 10 minutes if I remember right. Very few, I can't think of many at all really, go on for a period then continue to another place - certainly not in a group.being organized and planned are different from getting away. Most shootings just have a scapegoat...
The amount of situations that go past the hour mark are incredibly minuscule.
edit: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents/pdfs/a-study-of-active-shooter-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013 thing i've used before
but i don't even know if this should count because its already really different. i don't think it qualifies as the typical mass shooting that people have been trying to compare it against.
By blackace Go To Postbeing organized and planned are different from getting away. Most shootings just have a scapegoat…organized as in packing all ur guns and ammos vs organized to do your damage and leave the area with responders guessing are too very different things
sorry if i wasn't clear
By DY_nasty Go To Postorganized as in packing all ur guns and ammos vs organized to do your damage and leave the area with responders guessing are too very different things
sorry if i wasn't clear
guess the point I am trying to make is the Lone gunman acting on passion is a weird myth. Most of these shootings are planned...and by multiple people.
However this has an Ops feel to it
By blackace Go To Postguess the point I am trying to make is the Lone gunman acting on passion is a weird myth. Most of these shootings are planned…and by multiple people.
However this has an Ops feel to it
The scariest part is the body armor..... Its like the Active Shooters are literally adapting to become better at it.
The details don't even make sense, if they're accurate. Supposedly one person was having an argument inside the place, left, then came back with friends, guns, and body armor. What the hell kind of escalation is that? How the hell do you have two friends willing to do that?
By Jay Whatever Go To PostThe details don't even make sense, if they're accurate. Supposedly one person was having an argument inside the place, left, then came back with friends, guns, and body armor. What the hell kind of escalation is that? How the hell do you have two friends willing to do that?Now they're speculating that the first guy was there to confirm that a certain person (presumably a target) was actually at the meeting.
That sounds crazy. This is some John McClane shit right now on TV.
Police Chief to speak imminently.
Police Chief to speak imminently.
Likewise. It reminds me of a funny moment I experienced a few days ago:
My mother fractured her wrist and my sister remarked that she was praying for my mother to be well and have a good day when she got the news. When I asked if she thought that was funny, she didn't. She thinks her prayer resulted in my mother breaking her wrist and thus sparing her from a worse fate because "everything happens for a reason." What fate, I do not know - all I know is my mother is pretty fucking miserable right now.
My sister didn't understand why I thought that was funny. It was completely lost on her.
My mother fractured her wrist and my sister remarked that she was praying for my mother to be well and have a good day when she got the news. When I asked if she thought that was funny, she didn't. She thinks her prayer resulted in my mother breaking her wrist and thus sparing her from a worse fate because "everything happens for a reason." What fate, I do not know - all I know is my mother is pretty fucking miserable right now.
My sister didn't understand why I thought that was funny. It was completely lost on her.