By Gabyskra Go To PostEvery time he misses a shot, I actually feel bad for you!;_; his knee is obviously having issues and yet I near not a peep about it... Shit's weird.
By PSYCH! Go To Postso it's at least 17millimeters.inchesdigits?
By 13MillionDollarMan Go To PostSpend less time posting and more time cookin' ffs.
I don't respond to Gaby and then go "And one more thing - Fuck Blackace, Fuck Reilo, Fuck Dy, Fuck Slaent as a
This isn't hit em up. I just respond when people gang up on me and then go down the rabbit hole.
By reilo Go To Postmillimeters.25.4 millimeters are in an inch
17 letters = 17 inches = 17 digits
17*25.4=431
82 games in a basketball season
431*82 = 35342
35,342?
By blackace Go To PostI feel we might be entering a silver age of centers again..TBH, if he hadn't spent so many good years in Europe Best Gasol would have had a better career than a lot of the golden age centers.
DMC
KAT
Okafor
Vucevic
Monroe
Drummond
Whiteside
Gobert
Horford
Gasol
By Sharp Go To PostTBH, if he hadn't spent so many good years in Europe Best Gasol would have had a better career than a lot of the golden age centers.You could say that about Arvydas.
By reilo Go To PostYou could say that about Arvydas.Sabonis had about as good an NBA career as Gasol so far but came over at the same age Marc is now... would have been amazing to see him in his prime.
By Sharp Go To PostTBH, if he hadn't spent so many good years in Europe Best Gasol would have had a better career than a lot of the golden age centers.Who? The Gasol bros came to the NBA super early. Like 23/22 at most.
By Sharp Go To PostSabonis had about as good an NBA career as Gasol so far but came over at the same age Marc is now… would have been amazing to see him in his prime.Small sample size and head-to-heads but he was damn good against Robinson in the Olympics. He was just so skilled in every manner. Too bad his ankles were fused and he couldn't even move his foot by the time he got to the NBA.
By Gabyskra Go To PostWho? The Gasol bros came to the NBA super early. Like 23/22 at most.That's 3-4 years older than KAT is today. That's older than Drummond is.
By Gabyskra Go To PostWho? The Gasol bros came to the NBA super early. Like 23/22 at most.Marc came over at 24... but yeah, for some reason I thought he was older. I guess he has plenty of time to decline then :P
The argument would be that playing in the NBA at 18-23 is more beneficial for career growth than playing in Europe at the same time? Not sure if that's quantifiable, feels subjective depending on the team that drafts him, ownership, coaching, etc.
By reilo Go To PostThe argument would be that playing in the NBA at 18-23 is more beneficial for career growth than playing in Europe at the same time? Not sure if that's quantifiable, feels subjective depending on the team that drafts him, ownership, coaching, etc.I don't believe that. I mean, it depends on so many variables. Like, by the time Tony was 19, he had already been playing in the pros for 4 years, so might as well make the early jump. But for most players, I'd say Europe is beneficial.
How many people can even make the jump to NBA that quick anyway, why not play in Europe when the competition would be more grueling than college.
By 13MillionDollarMan Go To PostHow many people can even make the jump to NBA that quick anyway, why not play in Europe when the competition would be more grueling than college.There's that, there's the fact that you're treated like an adult, making paychecks and living an independent life, getting more interesting play-time than garbage time, D-league or college, there's the fact that for Europeans at that age, it matters to be in an environment that is friendly as you make a transition, I feel there are a lot of reasons. Rubio and Parker were early bloomers, but for others like Diaw, Gasol etc, 21-22 is fine.
Kind of bothers me not that fantasy betting exists but that these leagues/owners are actually involved in them. It's the epitome of conflict of interest to me but whatever, sports have been more about making money before everything else lately.
By 13MillionDollarMan Go To PostKind of bothers me not that fantasy betting exists but that these leagues/owners are actually involved in them. It's the epitome of conflict of interest to me but whatever, sports have been more about making money before everything else lately.Sure. Don't play them. You're as doomed to make a loss as with online poker, because it's a numbers game where a few take all the winnings. You might have seen the John Oliver segment about it, it was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq785nJ0FXQ
By blackace Go To PostI feel we might be entering a silver age of centers again..
DMC
KAT
Okafor
Vucevic
Monroe
Drummond
Whiteside
Gobert
Horford
Gasol
This is kinda what I'm talking about though. I guess the question could be looked at two ways:
A. Are traditional Centers still valuable?
B. Are centers valuable as they traditionally once were?
I think "B" is an obvious yes when we look at centers like DAJ and "A" is more nuanced as one has to define what "traditional center" means. Whiteside and Drummond are both pretty poor in the low post. Gasol and Monroe and Cousins tend to be more of what I think of when I think "traditional center". KAT like AD are sort of physical freaks that stretch what a traditional center was thought of. Vucevic and Okafor are on the more traditional end too I guess.
Hmmm ... maybe the silver age will come ...
By Gabyskra Go To PostSure. Don't play them. You're as doomed to make a loss as with online poker, because it's a numbers game where a few take all the winnings. You might have seen the John Oliver segment about it, it was interesting:I did see the LWT ep on it. Also I wouldn't play them either way. Thought it was already sketchy but I got the disgust face when it was mentioned how many owners/leagues are involved. That's just not good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq785nJ0FXQ
I guess what prompted this is I'm watching the NBA channel and they have an entire episode dedicated to helping people bet.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThis is kinda what I'm talking about though. I guess the question could be looked at two ways:
A. Are traditional Centers still valuable?
B. Are centers valuable as they traditionally once were?
I think "B" is an obvious yes when we look at centers like DAJ and "A" is more nuanced as one has to define what "traditional center" means. Whiteside and Drummond are both pretty poor in the low post. Gasol and Monroe and Cousins tend to be more of what I think of when I think "traditional center". KAT like AD are sort of physical freaks that stretch what a traditional center was thought of. Vucevic and Okafor are on the more traditional end too I guess.
Hmmm … maybe the silver age will come …
I like the centers question a lot. One of my favorite things to look for in the NBA. but I feel like there was no such thing as a "traditional center". The way Mutombo played was nothing like Brad Daugherty. Ewing had a killer mid range game while Shaq did not even attempt it. Rik Smits was very different from Vlade Divac, etc.
I would say that overall, players were more complete, but most importantly, they just were outstanding. Not so much following a mold. Mourning and Ewing played alike, but that's the Georgetown school of faking hard one side before driving the other... :)
C's are still as valuable as ever. Bogut is super important to the Warriors. They always have, always will be.
Knicks getting a team roasting them from the 3 early? My money's on Fish telling the team to start switching PnR
Edit: Called it.
Edit: Called it.
LT's been the only guy the last few games that's consistently attacking the closeout defender with a drive. When you swing it side to side and make 4-5 passes you should have plenty of opportunities to catch and drive
(would really help if the team was shooting well from 3 and teams closed out hard, but whatever)
(would really help if the team was shooting well from 3 and teams closed out hard, but whatever)
By Fenderputty Go To PostThis is kinda what I'm talking about though. I guess the question could be looked at two ways:FWIW: best years by center-forwards since 1984 (Hakeem's rookie year) by BPM (it excludes KG sadly, so I manually spliced in his best years).
A. Are traditional Centers still valuable?
B. Are centers valuable as they traditionally once were?
I think "B" is an obvious yes when we look at centers like DAJ and "A" is more nuanced as one has to define what "traditional center" means. Whiteside and Drummond are both pretty poor in the low post. Gasol and Monroe and Cousins tend to be more of what I think of when I think "traditional center". KAT like AD are sort of physical freaks that stretch what a traditional center was thought of. Vucevic and Okafor are on the more traditional end too I guess.
Hmmm … maybe the silver age will come …
'84-'89 was Hakeem (5), Ewing (1), Robinson (1). '90s was Robinson (9), Hakeem (5), Shaq (5), Webber (6), Vlade (3), Duncan (3), Garnett (3), Mourning (1), Grant (2), Kemp (2), Daugherty (2), Sabonis (1), Miller (1), Manning (1). '00s was Duncan (8), Garnett (8), Shaq (5), Wallace (5), Pau (3), Webber (2), Camby (2), Nene (1), Dwight (1), Robinson (1). '10s so far is Noah (4), Marc (2), Duncan (2), Cousins (1), Pau (1), Davis (1), Dwight (1), Gobert (1).
Net results are 7 '84-'89, 44 '90s, 36 '00s, 13 '10s. 2000s was actually a lot better than I remembered, but '10s have been awful. It definitely seems like it's a product of "most of the promising center prospects got hurt" moreso than "traditional centers don't belong in today's game." Pray for KAT.
This version of Grant is actually much better than he's been. Can't make anything but he's making quick decisions and not bogging down the offense with his over dribbling.
All the young talent in the league is mostly centered around bigs. The league will adapt rules to help facilitate those players and better glamourize those players. This is what they did to help the league when the talent was at the wing and guard.
So the talk about the game changing seems to forget that the game can change directions again. The rules and league generally adapt in a beneficial way to where the best young talent is.
So the talk about the game changing seems to forget that the game can change directions again. The rules and league generally adapt in a beneficial way to where the best young talent is.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postman jimmy have horrible shooting year
love the edit at the end: just makin sure yall know mudiay aint shit lol
his form is stupid as shit so no surprise
still average 20 doe, goddamn beast
By tmdorsey Go To PostWhew this is ugly right now.
Yall just stopped scoring there.
By Sharp Go To PostFWIW: best years by center-forwards since 1984 (Hakeem's rookie year) by BPM (it excludes KG sadly, so I manually spliced in his best years).
'84-'89 was Hakeem (5), Ewing (1), Robinson (1). '90s was Robinson (9), Hakeem (5), Shaq (5), Webber (6), Vlade (3), Duncan (3), Garnett (3), Mourning (1), Grant (2), Kemp (2), Daugherty (2), Sabonis (1), Miller (1), Manning (1). '00s was Duncan (8), Garnett (8), Shaq (5), Wallace (5), Pau (3), Webber (2), Camby (2), Nene (1), Dwight (1), Robinson (1). '10s so far is Noah (4), Marc (2), Duncan (2), Cousins (1), Pau (1), Davis (1), Dwight (1), Gobert (1).
Net results are 7 '84-'89, 44 '90s, 36 '00s, 13 '10s. 2000s was actually a lot better than I remembered, but '10s have been awful. It definitely seems like it's a product of "most of the promising center prospects got hurt" moreso than "traditional centers don't belong in today's game." Pray for KAT.
Thanks for looking that up. Man, those 10's are brutal
How did the Knicks hold Detroit to 42% shooting?
*sees bench numbers*
... okay I'm gonna call those a massive outlier.
*sees bench numbers*
... okay I'm gonna call those a massive outlier.