I think you guys missed the entire point with Charles to be honest.
The fact that every contender is a jump shooting team doesn't negate his argument at all. You have to play your competition after all, and if your competition has no post threats either, the example is removed entirely from Charles point.
Charles point is that if you can't effectively go into the post when your shot's not falling, and your competitors can, you're at a big disadvantage. If your competitors can't, the disadvantage is removed and there's no "see Charles was wrong" argument to be had.
Charles picked LA instead of Orlando because he correctly argued that Dwight wouldn't be effective in the post. He picked Miami over OKC and always picks against OKC chipping for the same reason. The Warriors are the first team to have no low post threats of any kind, go up against teams that do have low post threats and win a chip.
Saying the entire league is changing isn't refuting Charles point at all, in fact it's something that he and everyone else acknowledges.
Edit: I think there's some conflating with "live by the 3, die by the 3" and this other point. Live by the 3, die by the 3 is dead. Shot, stabbed, burned, then chopped up for good measure levels of dead. This other point, well we'll see.
The fact that Jordan won scoring titles and chips in the same year doesn't change the fact that it almost never ever happens unless you're Mike.
The fact that every contender is a jump shooting team doesn't negate his argument at all. You have to play your competition after all, and if your competition has no post threats either, the example is removed entirely from Charles point.
Charles point is that if you can't effectively go into the post when your shot's not falling, and your competitors can, you're at a big disadvantage. If your competitors can't, the disadvantage is removed and there's no "see Charles was wrong" argument to be had.
Charles picked LA instead of Orlando because he correctly argued that Dwight wouldn't be effective in the post. He picked Miami over OKC and always picks against OKC chipping for the same reason. The Warriors are the first team to have no low post threats of any kind, go up against teams that do have low post threats and win a chip.
Saying the entire league is changing isn't refuting Charles point at all, in fact it's something that he and everyone else acknowledges.
Edit: I think there's some conflating with "live by the 3, die by the 3" and this other point. Live by the 3, die by the 3 is dead. Shot, stabbed, burned, then chopped up for good measure levels of dead. This other point, well we'll see.
The fact that Jordan won scoring titles and chips in the same year doesn't change the fact that it almost never ever happens unless you're Mike.
RT @sam_amick: Sager: "I was really devastated by Flip Saunders... I tried calling (him) this weekend and I couldn't get through." https://t.co/4q26Le0z70
Ugh, so sad. Thankfully Sager is in remission.
Ugh, so sad. Thankfully Sager is in remission.
I don't think the Pels keep Ryan Anderson. I see him going to the Kings next year. He's a sactown area guy and they want a stretch four something fierce.
By Jason QuickWhat changed about Damian Lillard over the course of this year?
I've seen the same Dame I've seen since day one, where basketball is No. 1. But—I mean, people think this is drama or being made up—but I can't state enough how much there was an unspoken conflict between LaMarcus and Dame. And it was all from LaMarcus's side. Damian wants to win. He was confined under the enigma that was LaMarcus Aldridge. He couldn't spread his wings and be the real Dame.
What's an example?But...
I think there were times when he wanted to kick the team in the ass and say something in the locker room, but he wasn't quite sure if it was his place. Last year in the playoffs in Memphis, the Blazers' health and performance team suggested that studies show that it's best for the team to stay the night and get a good night's sleep, and then fly back to Portland. Well, LaMarcus heard that and said, "No, no. I'm not staying another night in Memphis." He got a private jet.
By reilo Go To PostBut…
Circling the wagon and defending the guy that stayed while tearing the guy that left is nothing new. I'm just saying, did you expect pro LMA and anti Lillard stories to come out?
Also, looks like Knicks really are starting Vujacic and Porzingis. Pretty obvious imo.
Between last nights Luke and West to Fish and Phil at 5 and then Kobe and Artest at 7:30. We suck now, but it's great watching so many people from our championship years littered around.
There's a history of LMA doing this shit though going back to when Roy was still playing. My hope was that he was over it, but it's really disheartening to see that he bolted on the team with one of the big reasons being was that he didn't like the popularity that Lillard garnered in the media. There's a reason that prior to Lillard, his supporting cast was built around the Marcus Camby, Gerald Wallace, and Raymond Feltons. It's quite petty that the team was stunted from becoming a contender because he didn't like that Damian did Footlocker commercials.
I'm not about to instantly believe that Dame never lent any salt to the wound given his ridiculous reaction to missing out on the initial wave of all-star selections
you don't show your ass like he did and NOT have a trail of similar behavior leading to it
you don't show your ass like he did and NOT have a trail of similar behavior leading to it
If he did, Jason Quick or Woj would've known about it and let it be known. Quick has been covering the Blazers since 1998, even getting into arguments with the likes of Sheed, Pippen, and Bonzi, so he's not one to hide a story like that.
And given my experiences and the shit I've heard while working there, the LMA behavior I tend to believe is 100% true.
And given my experiences and the shit I've heard while working there, the LMA behavior I tend to believe is 100% true.
By reilo Go To PostIf he did, Jason Quick or Woj would've known about it and let it be known. Quick has been covering the Blazers since 1998, even getting into arguments with the likes of Sheed, Pippen, and Bonzi, so he's not one to hide a story like that.
And given my experiences and the shit I've heard while working there, the LMA behavior I tend to believe is 100% true.
You worked for the Blazers?
By Vahagn Go To PostYou worked for the Blazers?I thought that was a well known fact. 4.5 years between 2008-2013.
I don't think Vahagn was around when we knew about it though. And I don't really recall you organization-dropping too much...which is something I'd have done every day if I worked for the Heat in any capacity lol
By ph33nix Go To PostI don't think Vahagn was around when we knew about it though. And I don't really recall you organization-dropping too much…which is something I'd have done every day if I worked for the Heat in any capacity lol
This!
Damn man, that's awesome
Also, what's with all the strip clubs/brothels and video poker in and around Portland?
I mean, shit it's everywhere.
Strip Clubs in Portland are like really great bars except there's fully naked girls in the background. It's a Portland thing.
Sounds like I need to move there. I have a friend in the Oregon Symphony and I've always wanted to visit.
By ph33nix Go To PostSounds like I need to move there. I have a friend in the Oregon Symphony and I've always wanted to visit.Weed is now 100% legal in Oregon, too. You'd fit right in.
Derek Fisher announced that Kristaps Porzingis and Sasha Vujacic will start for the Knicks in their first game of the season.
Porzingis, 20, was selected fourth overall by the Knicks in this year’s NBA Draft.
Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon and Robin Lopez will round out the starting five.
Arron Afflalo and Kevin Seraphin are both out, Fisher said.
By reilo Go To PostWeed is now 100% legal in Oregon, too. You'd fit right in.I would also guess there's a lot less Trump supporters there than here in Dallas. Nowadays these things matter to me!
By The Frankman Go To Postso melo is pretty much gone by trade deadline.
By K@do Go To Postso melo is pretty much gone by trade deadline.Melo is never leaving
By K@do Go To Postkobe for melo.why would you want melo at this point? Melo is probably staying with knicks, he prob gave up on ring chasing.
you know full well knickfans y'all would do it.
search your hearts.
Steve Martin @hornetslmartin 51m51 minutes ago Miami, FL
They've been testing the fire alarms in our hotel in Miami today. What a coincidence
miami pls
They've been testing the fire alarms in our hotel in Miami today. What a coincidence
miami pls
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postwill yall win tonight dyits miami. bosh will never let us win
By unknown Go To Postwhy would you want melo at this point? Melo is probably staying with knicks, he prob gave up on ring chasing.oh, i dont want melo. no self-respecting laker fans want melo in this juncture.
I just want to see knickfans reaction if they give up their franchise players for scrubs.
because you know, there's nothing more entertaining than watching a knickfan on youtube melt down for their team's consistent fuckery.
lmfao pelicans +2.5 on the spread against the blazers after that shameful performance by AD last night
horncats +7 wow the disrespect put a paycheck on it DY
jazz -1.5 against the pistons wow lmfao but diehard
horncats +7 wow the disrespect put a paycheck on it DY
jazz -1.5 against the pistons wow lmfao but diehard
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postlmfao pelicans +2.5 on the spread against the blazers after that shameful performance by AD last nightfoh lol
horncats +7 wow the disrespect put a paycheck on it DY
jazz -1.5 against the pistons wow lmfao but diehard
vegas got the inside scoop on PJ
sixers +11.5
Vegas:
11.5 dogs to the fukin celtics....nah, somebody gotta know something to drop a line like that
Vegas:
11.5 dogs to the fukin celtics....nah, somebody gotta know something to drop a line like that
By ph33nix Go To PostI would also guess there's a lot less Trump supporters there than here in Dallas. Nowadays these things matter to me!
I could never in my life live in a red state. Sorry, never happening.
Knicks and Lakers gonna win tonight fam.
First and probably last time all season!
By Dark PhaZe Go To Post11.5 dogs to the fukin celtics….nah, somebody gotta know something to drop a line like thatOh, I think everybody knows the Sixers have like three NBA players on their roster.
By Vahagn Go To PostI could never in my life live in a red state. Sorry, never happening.Some states aren't that blue tho....just sayin'.
Knicks and Lakers gonna win tonight fam.
First and probably last time all season!
By Vahagn Go To PostI could never in my life live in a red state. Sorry, never happening.Texas ain't bad. Arizona too.
Knicks and Lakers gonna win tonight fam.
First and probably last time all season!
The pockets that AREN'T crazy are awesome because they're more aware and appreciative of sanity in general lol
lines are dropping now
+245 hornets lmfao fuck
thats fucking outrageous--might actually put something on charlotte--that team is gona be free as fuck without MKG's ball and chain holding them back
+245 hornets lmfao fuck
thats fucking outrageous--might actually put something on charlotte--that team is gona be free as fuck without MKG's ball and chain holding them back
By The Frankman Go To PostStarting Porzingis and Sasha Vujacic.First the Mets lost the way they did, and now this? Rough day to be Frankman.
in 2015.
Sasha can actually be a pretty good perimeter defender so as long as your teams rotations are on point--he's basically a 6'7 Delly
against a guy like Middleton I would expect him to have a good game defensively
against a guy like Middleton I would expect him to have a good game defensively
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostSasha can actually be a pretty good perimeter defender so as long as your teams rotations are on point–he's basically a 6'7 DellyHe's 31 years old and has basically been out of the league for four seasons.
against a guy like Middleton I would expect him to have a good game defensively