As for the Lakers. I'm not in the camp of tanking because I think top 3 is damn near impossible. And I'd rather Philly get the 8th pick than the 4th. To that end, Byron has to figure out ways to get Kobe open 15 footers.
I know he's Kobe so he won't be treated by the defense like PP is now or plenty of other spot up shooters are, but you can't just force Kobe to go 1 on 1 if he has any hope of scoring.
All we've got is 5 guys who alternate playing 1 on 1 basketball - Swagyy P, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe, Lou. The only guy who regularly runs something resembling an offense is Huertas.
Only way to make this work is to run sets that don't need exceptional playmaking. Run off ball sets and stuff to get Kobe some open looks or he's going to shoot sub 40% from the field again this year.
I know he's Kobe so he won't be treated by the defense like PP is now or plenty of other spot up shooters are, but you can't just force Kobe to go 1 on 1 if he has any hope of scoring.
All we've got is 5 guys who alternate playing 1 on 1 basketball - Swagyy P, Randle, Clarkson, Kobe, Lou. The only guy who regularly runs something resembling an offense is Huertas.
Only way to make this work is to run sets that don't need exceptional playmaking. Run off ball sets and stuff to get Kobe some open looks or he's going to shoot sub 40% from the field again this year.
By Vahagn Go To PostHe's not playing basketball. Lou Williams is his backup, when you have the 6th man of the year and you're trying to win a game, you don't put in a dude who's unwilling to put effort. Just the way that dude runs down the court, it's such a slow trot. You'll never see him lead a fast break or sprint back on D. It's looking really really bad so far.At least when my best player is sidelined for the season I don't turn into a Knicks fan
Not a prediction of what will happen in the NBA, a prediction of what will happen with Dy. Heck, it's already started.
By DY_nasty Go To PostAt least when my best player is sidelined for the season I don't turn into a Knicks fan
When Melo and Kobe are sidelined you have no problem trolling.
When fucking MKG of all people is, it's a pity party for Dy.
By Vahagn Go To PostWhen Melo and Kobe are sidelined you have no problem trolling.okay vah okay.
When fucking MKG of all people is, it's a pity party for Dy.
"pity party"
pls show me the receipts
By DY_nasty Go To Postokay vah okay.
"pity party"
pls show me the receipts
I started trolling you just now and you came back with "bu bu bu MKG" twice.
By Vahagn Go To PostNot a prediction of what will happen in the NBA, a prediction of what will happen with Dy. Heck, it's already started.You saying that cause you do the same? That's what we call projecting, my friend.
i have a hard time seeing kobe running around off ball for looks
Both Randle and Hibbert should be strong screeners, so there's a possibility there, but...yeah, Kobe probably going to have atrocious shooting numbers this year. Some of that's his fault. Some of those "makeable looks" are basically contested shots for most others. A jab step jumper isn't a good shot today and that's one of Kobe's favorite shots.
He's too brittle to work out of the post also.
Both Randle and Hibbert should be strong screeners, so there's a possibility there, but...yeah, Kobe probably going to have atrocious shooting numbers this year. Some of that's his fault. Some of those "makeable looks" are basically contested shots for most others. A jab step jumper isn't a good shot today and that's one of Kobe's favorite shots.
He's too brittle to work out of the post also.
By Vahagn Go To PostI started trolling you just now and you came back with "bu bu bu MKG" twice.because he's literally our best player, so yeah - my earlier predictions on the team weren't based on our best player being out for the season lol
lol
Dy, my man, you are an unrepentant troll. Frankman's been asking you to stop, even offered up a bet, you wouldn't.
I don't troll teams like you do, but if I spent last year throwing as much shade at LAL and NY as you did, I wouldn't come back after day one with with "but MKG".
I don't troll teams like you do, but if I spent last year throwing as much shade at LAL and NY as you did, I wouldn't come back after day one with with "but MKG".
By Dark PhaZe Go To Posti have a hard time seeing kobe running around off ball for looks
Both Randle and Hibbert should be strong screeners, so there's a possibility there, but…yeah, Kobe probably going to have atrocious shooting numbers this year. Some of that's his fault. Some of those "makeable looks" are basically contested shots for most others. A jab step jumper isn't a good shot today and that's one of Kobe's favorite shots.
He's too brittle to work out of the post also.
He doesn't have to be Ray Allen. There at plenty of offensive sets that can get him isolated in the low post within 5-7 feet or an open mid range jumper.
We have no legit playmakers so Byron has to employ a Zipper like, Triangle like offense. Get a down screen, flash to the free throw line. Get a pin down and flash to the other side of the key. Plenty of motion offense concepts to get Kobe good looks without him having to hoist up 3's and create his own shot off the dribble.
theres a reversal of triangle video I've posted before that shows basic movement leading to deep paint catches by guards, open 3's and open 15 footers. Blazers run awesome flare screens that can easily be used for Kobe like it was used for Wes. Spurs have a Zipper Fan they use where Green or Kawhi get a blind back pick, float out to the wing from the top, and the misdirection gives them an open 3.
People aren't going to leave Kobe to go help on Hibbert or Russell or Randle. Scott doesn't even need to be creative, just copy and paste shit that works.
By Vahagn Go To PostDy, my man, you are an unrepentant troll. Frankman's been asking you to stop, even offered up a bet, you wouldn't.But... the stats say clearly that MKG is our best player lol. We're a .500 team with Kemba or Al out but barely .333 when MKG sits. Our defense goes from top 10 to bottom tier lol
I don't troll teams like you do, but if I spent last year throwing as much shade at LAL and NY as you did, I wouldn't come back after day one with with "but MKG".
Like I don't get what the fuck you're talking about. I say we're gonna win X amount of games in bold prediction before preseason starts, guy gets hurt in 1st game of preseason, I'm wrong for bold prediction? what the fuck lmao
By etiolation Go To PostMKG being your best player is a poor statement upon Jordan's drafting practicesThe only other guy we could've taken in that draft was Beal and... that's a wash at best.
By DY_nasty Go To PostBut… the stats say clearly that MKG is our best player lol. We're a .500 team with Kemba or Al out but barely .333 when MKG sits. Our defense goes from top 10 to bottom tier lol
Like I don't get what the fuck you're talking about. I say we're gonna win X amount of games in bold prediction before preseason starts, guy gets hurt in 1st game of preseason, I'm wrong for bold prediction? what the fuck lmao
The only other guy we could've taken was Beal that would've made a difference in that draft was Beal and… that's a wash at best.
I'm not debating that he is or isn't your best player. Melo is clearly the Knicks best player. But when your guy, who would be a role player on any contender in the league btw, is sidelined - you want understanding and patience plus no trolling allowed that you didn't give to the Knicks or Lakers or their fans all last season.
You coulda drafted Harrison Barnes DA GOD.
Or drafted not Kemba Walker in 2011, and maybe Lillard in 2012.
But this is just retroactive talk. Doesn't matter since you guys did the right thing and got MKG, it's just too bad he gets injured so often and hasn't had enough time to develop his offensive to compliment his defence. Coulda been Paul George/Kawhi Leonard lite of 2012. Could still be a star, not too late. Just needs to develop healthy.
Or drafted not Kemba Walker in 2011, and maybe Lillard in 2012.
But this is just retroactive talk. Doesn't matter since you guys did the right thing and got MKG, it's just too bad he gets injured so often and hasn't had enough time to develop his offensive to compliment his defence. Coulda been Paul George/Kawhi Leonard lite of 2012. Could still be a star, not too late. Just needs to develop healthy.
By reilo Go To PostDY is a troll, but at least he's self-aware and not an unrepentant Phil/Kobe/Triangle stan.
Is he though?
Shock, I'm a big fan of the coach/player/offense that got us 5 chips. Why do Boston fans like Bird and Spurs fans like Duncan and Pop? Oh the inhumanity.
By Vahagn Go To PostI'm not debating that he is or isn't your best player. Melo is clearly the Knicks best player. But when your guy, who would be a role player on any contender in the league btw, is sidelined - you want understanding and patience plus no trolling allowed that you didn't give to the Knicks or Lakers or their fans all last season.Role player is a funny word. Is he on offense, absolutely. On defense? He may as well be our Orlando Dwight.
I'm trying to figure out what the fuck a "pity party" has to do with Lakers and Knicks fans though. I didn't mention MKG one time during the game yesterday. I barely talk about the guy at all now. Meanwhile you're up in your feelings because I wasn't nice enough to Knicks or Lakers fans? LOL get the fuck over it. Knicks fans, the real ones not you, are happy to see their team play hard and get a win and I had a blast watching my team attempt to run a real offense last night. Get over yourself weirdo
By Vahagn Go To PostIs he though?Boston fans don't go around stanning Doc Rivers, KG, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen. Hell, you don't even hear Heat fans defending or talking about Lebron, and he's still winning, unlike the coach/player/offense you stan that hasn't won shit in 5 seasons.
Shock, I'm a big fan of the coach/player/offense that got us 5 chips. Why do Boston fans like Bird and Spurs fans like Duncan and Pop? Oh the inhumanity.
Unless Dy does right and accepts love into his heart and stops his senseless trolling everything around the Horncats will crumble. No good will ever befall them...
By reilo Go To PostBoston fans don't go around stanning Doc Rivers, KG, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen. Hell, you don't even hear Heat fans defending or talking about Lebron, and he's still winning, unlike the coach/player/offense you stan that hasn't won shit in 5 seasons.In fairness shadow stopped posting here.
By The Frankman Go To PostUnless Dy does right and accepts love into his heart and stops his senseless trolling everything around the Horncats will crumble. No good will ever befall them…#fuckdaknicks
In fairness shadow stopped posting here.
also, i'm the one who snitched on shadowlark
blackace will confirm. i did it for the people
By DY_nasty Go To PostRole player is a funny word. Is he on offense, absolutely. On defense? He may as well be our Orlando Dwight.
I'm trying to figure out what the fuck a "pity party" has to do with Lakers and Knicks fans though. I didn't mention MKG one time during the game yesterday. I barely talk about the guy at all now. Meanwhile you're up in your feelings because I wasn't nice enough to Knicks or Lakers fans? LOL get the fuck over it. Knicks fans, the real ones not you, are happy to see their team play hard and get a win and I had a blast watching my team attempt to run a real offense last night. Get over yourself weirdo
Calm down. You can troll with the best of them, but can't handle a little of your own.
All you did was prove my point about you rationalizing and explainin shit away once there's an injury. Next time you troll any team, any person on slaent, and there's an injury involved. I'll bring this up. See how all in your feelings you got.
By reilo Go To PostBoston fans don't go around stanning Doc Rivers, KG, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen. Hell, you don't even hear Heat fans defending or talking about Lebron, and he's still winning, unlike the coach/player/offense you stan that hasn't won shit in 5 seasons.
Coming from the dude that's been stanning Lillard so hard he got defensive and mad anytime someone mentioned his shooting slump last season, and someone who feels the need to tear down LMA and raise up Lillard with articles after the fact?
I mean, you even refuse to acknowledge Lillard was immature about the all star game no matter how many different people bring it up.
Yea right.
I didn't defend shit, I just said that people focused entirely on a month long slump and hung onto that for whatever reason. I even addressed the All-Star thing, but keep being blind. Also, at least I don't throw out 3-day shooting samples for Kobe like Trax defending Bargnani.
By reilo Go To PostI didn't defend shit, I just said that people focused entirely on a month long slump and hung onto that for whatever reason. I even addressed the All-Star thing, but keep being blind. Also, at least I don't throw out 3-day shooting samples for Kobe like Trax defending Bargnani.
Oh cmon son, we were going back and forth plenty over Lillard's struggles. You were having none of it.
By Vahagn Go To PostOh cmon son, we were going back and forth plenty over Lillard's struggles. You were having none of it.We just talked about a week or two ago and I addressed all of it, the fuck you on?
By Vahagn Go To PostCalm down. You can troll with the best of them, but can't handle a little of your own.da fuqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
All you did was prove my point about you rationalizing and explainin shit away once there's an injury. Next time you troll any team, any person on slaent, and there's an injury involved. I'll bring this up. See how all in your feelings you got.
you just gonna keep talking out your ass or naw?
you literally dont even know what a pity party is, because i've never once so much as claimed i needed or wanted any kind of sympathy or consideration because of the injury so that's fucking stupid. it is. fucking stupid.
you want to clown guys, sure go right the fuck ahead. me and psy can laugh about the guy my team passed on smashing my entire roster last night. you? you say dumb shit then wonder why everyone thinks you're the nba thread's pothole. fucking up the traffic every time you post
'rationalizing and explaining shit away' breh really. the reason i gave people shit was because they tried to act like they'd win games in spite of guys being hurt/old. that's why this is fucking ridiculous lol
By Vahagn Go To PostI would say that Dy would have meltdowns if Knicks ended up with a better record than the Horncats, but he'd probably just play it cool and rationalize it away.
Didn't he have a pretty high usage rating in college? He's got no clue how to play off ball., which he did most of the first half.
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you just gonna keep talking out your ass or naw?
you literally dont even know what a pity party is, because i've never once so much as claimed i needed or wanted any kind of sympathy or consideration because of the injury so that's fucking stupid. it is. fucking stupid.
you want to clown guys, sure go right the fuck ahead. me and psy can laugh about the guy my team passed on smashing my entire roster last night. you? you say dumb shit then wonder why everyone thinks you're the nba thread's pothole. fucking up the traffic every time you post
'rationalizing and explaining shit away' breh really. the reason i gave people shit was because they tried to act like they'd win games in spite of guys being hurt/old. that's why this is fucking ridiculous lol
Lol biggest load of nonsensical splitting hairs ever.
Theres no point continuing this with you. And stop with the "you're so Fucking horrible every time" refrain bullshit when you get into something with me. Make your case on its own merits, don't just jump back to "I'm right because I'm me and you're you" dumbfuck arguments
no fuck you vahagn
my only regret as a mod right now is that i can't put you on ignore
"pity party"
fuck outta here man
my only regret as a mod right now is that i can't put you on ignore
"pity party"
fuck outta here man
Get a room you two.
By Shun Go To PostJulius Randle is an asshole, inbounding by throwing the ball off KG's back.That's such a KG thing to do LOL
By Shun Go To PostJulius Randle is an asshole, inbounding by throwing the ball off KG's back.
This was right after KG got the tech for talking shit to Randle. Then Randle gave him a bow while running through the lane after the inbound play.
Nice to see Kristaps shoot 12 freethows last night. He has that Durant thing going where he's so long\frail that everything looks like a foul.
By creepingfear Go To PostMirotic is a different player this year.more assertive.
D'Angelo Russell will handle the ball more on Friday vs. the Kings while Jordan Clarkson will play more shooting guard.I wonder if we can get #D'Turnover trending Friday.
This makes a lot of sense because Russell isn't great off the ball yet, and the Lakers could really utilize his vision with the ball in his hands. Russell was disappointing in his Laker debut with four points, three boards and two assists in 26 minutes, but he should have a much better game vs. the Kings.
By etiolation Go To PostRubio's form did look decent in highlights.
Are you guys for real? Enough, seriously. Rubio has been playing professionally for TEN YEARS. His shooting is what it is. He's always been a sub-40% shooter, always. With Badalona, Barcelona, his first few years in the NBA... You're using 48 minutes versus hundreds of games. He's a special player for different reasons, but his mechanics are the same, low with little bounce and slow.
By Shun Go To PostJulius Randle is an asshole, inbounding by throwing the ball off KG's back.
One of the best things from the game was Randle bothering KG all night.
Did Vah just actually say someone had a pity party? lol
By DY_nasty Go To Post#fuckdaknicks
also, i'm the one who snitched on shadowlark
blackace will confirm. i did it for the people
and if we want who has snitched out in the open I am sure this conversation could get much more interesting...
By diehard Go To Postcan i have a pity party over Exum being out?
or Burke being in?
you can have one for being in Utah