NBA OCT/NOV 2015 | Ballstreams & Chill

By knux-future Go To PostYou think that will save you?

You will hold this W.

No light at the end of this tunnel.

rockets are for sure handing philly their first W

and if they do i aint watching these suck ass niggas the rest of the yr

i guess these are my final days

Chance the Rapper concert over the weekend was hype. Album +1.

overshadowed in this game was frank kaminsky starting off the run and putting in work through the 4th and OT

huge game by him

By DY_nasty Go To Postovershadowed in this game was frank kaminsky starting off the run and putting in work through the 4th and OT

huge game by him

9 points and 5 boards? He was +23 though which is "wtf?"

Speaking of:

Player A: 25 Points / 12 Rebounds / 67% Shooting.... -10 on the night.
Player B: 6 Points / 2 Rebounds / 43% Shooting....+8 on the night.

Cousins... man, he takes himself out of the game in the worst ways. Even before he couldn't continue due to injury, he was fucking up by getting dumb fouls. Like... how the hell do you let Cody Zeller get under your skin? That's not even possible. Its you, bro. You're the asshole.

But yeah. Frank spurred the entire run in the 4th. Kemba/Lin/Batum/Zeller/Frank looked great against a team that plays no defense huehue and i'm hoping to see more of it in the future generally less jefferson tbh

It's not Zeller under his skin. It's likely the refs. Though he had some pointless fouls. Tried to draw a charge on Lin when he already had two fouls. He gets star calls now, but he still gets Boogie calls. (aka mystery fouls on him)

I missed most of the second half, but you can tell in highlights that Cousins was not moving well on pick n rolls. He's normally pretty good at hedging and using length to deny. Kemba was just blowing by him in the second half.

The Kings radio PBP guy just tweeted that Cousins is in a lot of pain on the plane flight to Milwaukee. Back problems. =|

Kings still should have won. Karl completely forgot that WCS rim protects and defensively recovers like some sort of freak. He left the same guys out there for along time, for reasons he couldn't explain afterwards.

By etiolation Go To PostIt's not Zeller under his skin. It's likely the refs. Though he had some pointless fouls. Tried to draw a charge on Lin when he already had two fouls. He gets star calls now, but he still gets Boogie calls. (aka mystery fouls on him)

I missed most of the second half, but you can tell in highlights that Cousins was not moving well on pick n rolls. He's normally pretty good at hedging and using length to deny. Kemba was just blowing by him in the second half.

The Kings radio PBP guy just tweeted that Cousins is in a lot of pain on the plane flight to Milwaukee. Back problems. =|

Kings still should have won. Karl completely forgot that WCS rim protects and defensively recovers like some sort of freak. He left the same guys out there for along time, for reasons he couldn't explain afterwards.

He got tied up with Zeller more than a few times during the 4th. Refs even looked the other way a bunch when he had 5 too.

Its just ridiculous. He plays smart and we're never in the game at all.

Not sure why Karl plays KK over WCS tho

By DY_nasty Go To PostHe got tied up with Zeller more than a few times during the 4th. Refs even looked the other way a bunch when he had 5 too.

Its just ridiculous. He plays smart and we're never in the game at all.

Not sure why Karl plays KK over WCS tho

Karl is another earn your mins guy...

We now know Fisher has no choice but to upgrade Kris to 36 mins a game. He could very well average 17/11/2+ on 45/35/85 shooting by the end of the season. No one saw that kind of rookie season coming, most Knicks fans would have been happy with those numbers cut in half.

Melo and Kris make for a nice argument towards free agents.

Sadly, we'll be paying Afflalo, KOQ and D-Williams 16 millions next season... Calderon 8 and Lopez over 13... All of these guys are overpaid.

The general climate in the discussion here even prevents people from criticizing Lopez (who is instead credited for great team 3 point defense, alongside the Triangle)... I mean... the guy is getting 8 and 6 with 1 block a game, on 45% shooting and 2 turnovers a game. Those are shocking numbers for a starting center period, and even worse for a 13M/y contract. And all you hear is praise and nonsensical bitter ramblings about how non-Knicks fans don't want to learn about the Triangle gospel...

For now, we project to have 19M in cap space next summer, which is not even enough for one max contract. We need more. We could have twice that were it not for dead weight signings... They better make a financially sensible move before March, and give more playing time to Grant and Galloway who cost nothing and will be there next year. I won't hold my breath.

Joe Ingles broke his own ankles last night.

https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4/lbfe.mp4

was there a more boring pick than trey lyles in the lottery?

pretty sure guy got drafted based purely on being part of that kentucky core

By Dark PhaZe Go To Postwas there a more boring pick than trey lyles in the lottery?

pretty sure guy got drafted based purely on being part of that kentucky core

Mildly excited about the potential of Dakari Johnson tbh.

I could see him making the Thunder in a couple years as a backup to Adams.

By Dark PhaZe Go To Postwas there a more boring pick than trey lyles in the lottery?

pretty sure guy got drafted based purely on being part of that kentucky core

Relative to their draft spot?

WCS, no doubt about it.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/11/23/9769756/michael-jordan-washington-wizards-kobe-bryant-peyton-manning

Washed Kobe vs washed MJ

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA
Watching Knicks-Heat. We all know by now, but it's crazy how NBA-ready Justise Winslow is on D

Lowe article on small ball.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14209124/is-small-ball-dominance-golden-state-blip-trend
Also lol at this quote.

Coaches (other than Byron Scott) finally grasping the power of the 3-point shot has accelerated small-ball experimentation

Ben hasn't shot a 3 at all during the college season ;/

I'm not exactly sure what his game will be at the next level--though his stats are gaudy

And lets give Jahlil credit for dominating Towns yesterday btw

By Dark PhaZe Go To PostBen hasn't shot a 3 at all during the college season ;/

I'm not exactly sure what his game will be at the next level–though his stats are gaudy

His play reminds me more of Odom more than LeBron.

LA getting Simmons and Philly taking Skal would be amazing. 4 Center lineup future.

Simmons 19p14r5a 57% shooting in 33 min

Skal 13p4r0a 64.7% shooting in 22 min

Brown 16p7r2q 44.7 shooting in 24 min

By Nelo Ice Go To PostLowe article on small ball.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14209124/is-small-ball-dominance-golden-state-blip-trend
Also lol at this quote.

Except the lakers were leading the league by a wide margin for much of the season? This is the kind of self serving narrative that irks me about him. He's relying on people's ignorance to keep peddling a shoddy argument.

By Dark PhaZe Go To PostBen hasn't shot a 3 at all during the college season ;/

I'm not exactly sure what his game will be at the next level–though his stats are gaudy

And lets give Jahlil credit for dominating Towns yesterday btw

I already subversively did.

reading Lowe article on espn.com hurts my soul.

By Dark PhaZe Go To Posthttp://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/11/23/9769756/michael-jordan-washington-wizards-kobe-bryant-peyton-manning

Washed Kobe vs washed MJ

More athleticism to start + fewer career minutes played and no debilitating injuries + much less potency of NBA offenses = better end of career performances.

add in the fact that kobe hasn't let the game just come to him in like 4 years...

Simmons PER is in the low 30s right now. Steph gonna give LA a burning L tonight.

Stockton finishing his last season at 40 with 82 games played and a 21 PER was under-appreciated.

By DY_nasty Go To Postadd in the fact that kobe hasn't let the game just come to him in like 4 years…

tbf, the last time kobe let the game come to him was when phil was the coach.
ever since then, he's been in the 'fuck yo shit, im getting mine' since then.

By Moris Go To PostSimmons PER is in the low 30s right now. Steph gonna give LA a burning L tonight.

warriors can give a fuck all for 3.5 quarters and just switch it on in the final minutes.
let's all hope kobe tries to over exert himself and plays 40+ minutes trying to win.

By Dipro Go To Postreading Lowe article on espn.com hurts my soul.

I hadn't realized what a clusterfuck ESPN's website is. My browser slowed down like crazy when I tried to read his new article. Brutal.

By DY_nasty Go To Postadd in the fact that kobe hasn't let the game just come to him in like 4 years…

We gonna forget how godlike he was before the Achilles rupture?

By Moris Go To PostLA getting Simmons and Philly taking Skal would be amazing. 4 Center lineup future.

Simmons 19p14r5a 57% shooting in 33 min

Skal 13p4r0a 64.7% shooting in 22 min

Brown 16p7r2q 44.7 shooting in 24 min

We take another center and I might shank someone.

Simmons looks good but yeah you wonder what his real position is. He reminds me of Giannis actually. You take him Number one and figure it out later tho.

Brown is the ideal pick of the current top 5. Gives us a scoring wing that can get his own shot. I like Murray too.

This draft may be asscheeks after that tho

By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostWe gonna forget how godlike he was before the Achilles rupture?

godlike? he was bobcats stephen jackson lol

You have to go really small – Golden State level small with five perimeter players – to foist that choice upon Gobert. Play one traditional big guy, and Gobert will chill near the basket, leaving the quicker Derrick Favors to chase a small-ball power forward. Playing five out is tough to manage. It's hard stocking the roster with enough skilled wings who can shoot 3s, and having all five guys flinging the ball around the arc can almost be bad for spacing. They end up standing near one another in a semi-circle, and opposing defenses can downsize and switch every action – effectively forming a forcefield around the paint.

This part of Lowes article is an issue the Wizards have been facing with Hump at the 4. It's not just about making threes, it's about being able to be a reliable threat to attack close outs to keep the defense reeling.

By knux-future Go To PostWe take another center and I might shank someone.

Simmons looks good but yeah you wonder what his real position is. He reminds me of Giannis actually. You take him Number one and figure it out later tho.

Brown is the ideal pick of the current top 5. Gives us a scoring wing that can get his own shot. I like Murray too.

This draft may be asscheeks after that tho

Simmons looks like a 4 who will likely play the 3 like Melo and Bron early on in the NBA. He can be a small ball 4 and probably transition full time to PF in his later years.

That speed and athleticism should allow him to be a near ideal 1-4 'position-less' type player

By DY_nasty Go To PostCousins… man, he takes himself out of the game in the worst ways. Even before he couldn't continue due to injury, he was fucking up by getting dumb fouls. Like… how the hell do you let Cody Zeller get under your skin? That's not even possible. Its you, bro. You're the asshole.

But yeah. Frank spurred the entire run in the 4th. Kemba/Lin/Batum/Zeller/Frank looked great against a team that plays no defense huehue and i'm hoping to see more of it in the future generally less jefferson tbh

You're the asshole? Lol That's a punchline

ESPN's RPM has Jae Crowder as the 16th best player in the league this season. What a time.

RT @MarkG_Medina: Byron said hope is to get D'Angelo to 30-35 minutes per game. But Byron added, "That's up to him."

He's gonna Evan Turner this poor kid.

By DY_nasty Go To Postgodlike? he was bobcats stephen jackson lol

Dude wasn't god like but come the fuck on, man.

By reilo Go To PostRT @MarkG_Medina: Byron said hope is to get D'Angelo to 30-35 minutes per game. But Byron added, "That's up to him."

He's gonna Evan Turner this poor kid.

Fire Byron like holy shit. He's actively trying to ruin the development of our top pick.

By reilo Go To PostRT @MarkG_Medina: Byron said hope is to get D'Angelo to 30-35 minutes per game. But Byron added, "That's up to him."

He's gonna Evan Turner this poor kid.

You joke but this is exactly what Doug did to Evan. Passive Agressive shots calling him "aint shit" and everything. Soon he will be benched for "floor spacing" and not playing the right way.

I wasn't joking.

By Fenderputty Go To PostDude wasn't god like but come the fuck on, man.

stephen jackson was a near all-star once i'll have you know

I remember Warriors fans crying over Stephen Jackson being left out of the ASG in favor of Brandon Roy. What a time.

If you're a team that's not really slated to go the distance why the fuck aren't you giving huge minutes to develop your less experienced players. NBA is so struggle, the shit. Basic common sense dictates that you can at least turn a losing season into a development season.

Justin Anderson in the D-League is such an odd as fuck thing for the Mavs to do

By MeyersLeonardMoustache Go To PostIf you're a team that's not really slated to go the distance why the fuck aren't you giving huge minutes to develop your less experienced players. NBA is so struggle, the shit. Basic common sense dictates that you can at least turn a losing season into a development season.

"that makes way too much sense." /Scott

By K@do Go To Post"that makes way too much sense." /Scott

Playing Lou Williams and Nick Young is way more conducive to winning. The record speaks for itself. Russell has to man up.

By DY_nasty Go To Poststephen jackson was a near all-star once i'll have you know

Nah you're mistaken. Go back and check. 27.5 PPG/ 46% shooting / 6 assists / 5.6 rebounds. 112 ORTG.

He was the oldest player ever averaging those numbers and looked to be kicking Father Time in the face.

He got 5th in MVP voting despite the team barely making the playoffs and had the same win shares as Melo during the Knicks 54 win season.

Kobe stopped playing defense cuz of age and D'Antoni, but his offense was otherworldly.


I'm not trying to defend Scott - but if there's anything he does well it's deal with PG's. Utah been playing Burke and Exum heavy minutes and Clarkson developed more under Scott last year in 30 games than those guys did in 82.

MCW has played a million minutes, still hasn't developed shit that he didn't have his first week in the NBA. After what Scott did with Clarkson, I'm willing to let another 30 games play out. D'Angelo's been steadily improving.

Malone at 34 : 27/10/4 on 53% and 118 ORTG

I don't follow. How was Kobe the oldest player to average those numbers? That doesn't pass the sniff test since Jordan lead the league in scoring at 28.7PPG on 46.5FG%, 5.8RPG and 3.5APG and he played all 82 games.

Unless we are doing that dumb 25/5/5 thing?

By diehard Go To PostMalone at 34 : 27/10/4 on 53% and 118 ORTG

Kobe was also 34.

Yea I don't know what "those" numbers mean, I just heard it in Laker telecasts and stuff. Probably the 27/5/5. Arbitrary.

But it was still damn damn good.