By DY_nasty Go To Postnot sure how ppl can say that when we're still gonna be better than we were last year
34+ wins, idk. Hornets are a Batum injury away from a top 3 pick tbh.
This offseason has taught me that no one other than knux even gives the horncats even minor attention lol
no one apparently understands just how bad last season was
no one apparently understands just how bad last season was
By DY_nasty Go To PostThis offseason has taught me that no one other than knux even gives the horncats even minor attention lol
no one apparently understands just how bad last season was
Haven't you clowned us Knick fans for that same argument/defense? Serious question.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostHaven't you clowned us Knick fans for that same argument/defense? Serious question.No, I clown you guys because you weren't even good at anything at all year long but expect a 25+ win swing. Even with injuries at every position, we managed a top 10 defense during a clusterfuck of a season without having more than 4 'decent' defensive players on the entire roster. Every prediction I made had to do with the fact that we weren't going to have historically bad shooting this season. Which is more than a safe bet. Not even assuming that our defense changes significantly for the better or worse (despite health, roster changes, etc), spacing on offense at the very least would have us scoring more points and more efficiently than before - which, going by our ppg/papg, would be huge.
Knicks fans have just been saying "We'll be better this year" over and over.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostLMAO. If you say so.See what I mean
Pretty cool article on John Carlos meeting the Spurs
Byline: Meeting and speaking to the San Antonio Spurs meant a great deal to 1968 Olympic gold medalist and protester.
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-vindication-of-dr-john-carlos/
Byline: Meeting and speaking to the San Antonio Spurs meant a great deal to 1968 Olympic gold medalist and protester.
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-vindication-of-dr-john-carlos/
By DY_nasty Go To PostSee what I mean
The simple fact that you dismiss us because a D-league squad was our entire team last year is laughable to me. I've seen teams swing 25+ games from season to season. The Suns come to mind immediately, actually...33 win swing. And that was the west. And I'm not comparing the Suns to the Knicks before you start ranting and raving.
everybody goin on a 20 + game win swing
gota wonder who's gona take the L's as a result
lets just give them all to phoenix
gota wonder who's gona take the L's as a result
lets just give them all to phoenix
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostThe simple fact that you dismiss us because a D-league squad was our entire team last year is laughable to me. I've seen teams swing 25+ games from season to season. The Suns come to mind immediately, actually…33 win swing. And that was the west. And I'm not comparing the Suns to the Knicks before you start ranting and raving.The difference between you guys and the Suns is pretty damned huge... and they were never as bad as you were last year. I'm glad you're not comparing them because that's a bad comparison.
But hell, I'm all about win total swings. I called Charlotte's swing from WOAT team to good defensive team. Faze lawst. The thing is, its easier to recover from being fundamentally broken or getting over systematic deficiencies than it is from being simply all-around bad.
Tell me how it happens though. Just add role players?
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Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 18m18 minutes agorick bonnell can eat a dick for playing with my emotions like this
As of now, Hornets have not confirmed Woj report on MKG needing shoulder surgery.
dude
the amount of teams that went full tank for that to happen was completely unexpected
specifically the pistons and cavs went full the fuck tank--a pistons team with drummond and monroe won 29 games in THE EAST and the cavs won 33 games
I mean Detroit didn't even get a pick after that loser season--that's how shocked I was that they failed as bad as they did
the amount of teams that went full tank for that to happen was completely unexpected
specifically the pistons and cavs went full the fuck tank--a pistons team with drummond and monroe won 29 games in THE EAST and the cavs won 33 games
I mean Detroit didn't even get a pick after that loser season--that's how shocked I was that they failed as bad as they did
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postdudewon the games we were supposed to. u mad?
the amount of teams that went full tank for that to happen was completely unexpected
specifically the pistons and cavs went full the fuck tank–a pistons team with drummond and monroe won 29 games in THE EAST and the cavs won 33 games
I mean Detroit didn't even get a pick after that loser season–that's how shocked I was that they failed as bad as they did
couldn't rebound or hedge, fixed that with some real interior depth and all of sudden team isn't fundamentally broken or designed to lose anymore.
i have no idea how we're gonna do this season now... i still see us getting more wins than last year but i just don't know if we'll ever be consistent on defense again
I watched the hornets last season......
They'll be better but MKG is their best player and he's gone.
Still though' they put up like 30 threes last night which is already pretty huge change offensively.
They'll be better but MKG is their best player and he's gone.
Still though' they put up like 30 threes last night which is already pretty huge change offensively.
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe difference between you guys and the Suns is pretty damned huge… and they were never as bad as you were last year. I'm glad you're not comparing them because that's a bad comparison.
But hell, I'm all about win total swings. I called Charlotte's swing from WOAT team to good defensive team. Faze lawst. The thing is, its easier to recover from being fundamentally broken or getting over systematic deficiencies than it is from being simply all-around bad.
Tell me how it happens though. Just add role players?
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rick bonnell can eat a dick for playing with my emotions like this
Wait what? Suns were garbage tier and they were trying to win games. They epitomized being try-hards - they had the craziest win swings coming off of multiple losses one week to winning with blow outs. The first half of the season until the trade deadline in January and they only had 12 wins. Their record was only better because they were able to play with a number of other starting players. Even got 55 games out of Amare. They kept trying to win that season despite blowing up mid-season. The Knicks were in full-on tank mode, on the other hand, literally starting D-league players and shutting down Melo. And yet, you continue to overlook that every time someone brings it up.
If you truly want a fair gauge to compare one Knick team to this year's, you should be looking at the 2013-2014 team - which despite some injuries and turmoil were a below mediocre 37 win team. With all of the coaching changes, trades, acquisitions, and drafts made to this year's team...I would be shocked to see this Knick team worse than that one.
Waits for someone to say "Prepare to be shocked".
Losing Lance and Hendo the contested two gawd will open up their offense a lot. I also think Big Al is in a contract year so there is that. Losing MKG will be big tho, their defense fell to pieces the moment he ever was off the floor but Batum should help that a bit too.
I have no idea how good the Knicks will be. Things can always go wrong and there's a chance that Knicks Age are collectively being homers.
But Charlotte at a 49 win clip? I KNOW that was crazy. Whatever though, it's all a moot point now
But Charlotte at a 49 win clip? I KNOW that was crazy. Whatever though, it's all a moot point now
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostWait what? Suns were garbage tier and they were trying to win games. They epitomized being try-hards - they had the craziest win swings coming off of multiple losses one week to winning with blow outs. The first half of the season until the trade deadline in January and they only had 12 wins. Their record was only better because they were able to play with a number of other starting players. Even got 55 games out of Amare. They kept trying to win that season despite blowing up mid-season. The Knicks were in full-on tank mode, on the other hand, literally starting D-league players and shutting down Melo. And yet, you continue to overlook that every time someone brings it up.When you're a fundamentally broken team it doesn't matter what your talent looks like, you're only capable of being so good. For example, Boston is a broken team. Their interior will never let them be better than what they were last year, when they overachieved in spite of a lot. Minnesota, on the other hand, is simply bad and don't have the talent (until they put Lavine at PG, that was ruining any chance they had at being an efficient offensive team). Lakers were broken, and told the world that they were when Scott said in plain words that he wasn't trying to shoot any 3s if he could help it. Philly was both. Either way, you can fix fundamentally broken quickly. Pacers did it, Utah is doing it, Houston is capable of winning it all with ease if they get over themselves and do it.
If you truly want a fair gauge to compare one Knick team to this year's, you should be looking at the 2013-2014 team - which despite some injuries and turmoil were a below mediocre 37 win team. With all of the coaching changes, trades, acquisitions, and drafts made to this year's team…I would be shocked to see this Knick team worse than that one.
Waits for someone to say "Prepare to be shocked".
The Knicks were in full-on tank mode, but even then you don't just 'turn it on'. That's a term reserved for good core players on teams that know what their strengths are. If I were to ask, "what is the Knicks' strength?" ....what would the answer be? They haven't even gone through their growing pains with their new system, their mob of new guys that were largely complimentary to schemes and players that don't really mesh with each other well on the surface, and hit the ground running on top of that.
Knicks have more in common with the Kings from about 2 years ago than the Suns.
And what's crazy is, no one is saying that the Knicks will be a bottom 5 team again. Everyone here thinks that they'll be better. Just not 25 wins better.
By knux-future Go To PostLosing Lance and Hendo the contested two gawd will open up their offense a lot. I also think Big Al is in a contract year so there is that. Losing MKG will be big tho, their defense fell to pieces the moment he ever was off the floor but Batum should help that a bit too.I think you're the only person that can understand how mad I was knowing that Henderson had a Corner Specialist badge in 2k16.
By Vahagn Go To PostI have no idea how good the Knicks will be. Things can always go wrong and there's a chance that Knicks Age are collectively being homers.
But Charlotte at a 49 win clip? I KNOW that was crazy. Whatever though, it's all a moot point now
Since it's barely pre-season, we're still basing all of this on everything going right. Obviously if shit doesn't pan out and injuries amount or players simply don't play like they should per the playbook...then yeah, we are fucked.
It's only the pre-season, but already I like what Hoiberg is doing. He's starting Moore instead of Brooks. Thibs would have started Brooks even though Brooks sucks balls as a starter.
Hey, the Wolves would've won like 30 games if Ricky had stayed healthy. (Which is honestly about where I see them this year. You know assuming, somebody stays in the lineup.)
Charlotte Hornets PR @HornetsPR 2m2 minutes agoon the bright side, i know we're always extra cautious with him so i don't have to worry about him being jameer nelson'd
Injury Update: Charlotte Hornets forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist underwent an MRI today that revealed a torn labrum in his right shoulder.
By db Go To PostThe Nets floor is just so nice and that's another upgrade.
If only their team could get an upgrade (｡◕ฺˇε ˇ◕ฺ｡）
By DY_nasty Go To Poston the bright side, i know we're always extra cautious with him so i don't have to worry about him being jameer nelson'd
Torn labrum injuries are awful. I've dislocated my shoulder a few times playing ball and I can tell you it's crushing what the after effects are.
MKG will never be able to shoot correctly again and he'll probably miss more than just 6 months. Likely the whole season. Even with surgery he will have continuously sharp shooting pains at the shoulder joint area where they'll operate. The pain feels like your shoulder is about to pop out again, even if it isn't. You'll constantly want to massage it and you have to be careful lifting weights.
In my opinion, it's about as bad as an achilles tear.
And it's not just shooting that becomes an issue. You can jump up with your hand extended up and feel a random pain. You can go for a steal and try to swat a ball away and randomly feel something sharp stopping you (literally popped my shoulder out once doing this, and slid it back in as I was walking to the bench a few years ago). The motion of movement I have with my left shoulder and right shoulder are considerably different as a result of my issues. Rehab worked to help and strengthen the muscle around my shoulder to prevent anterior protrusion from simple tasks, but ultimately the pain is inside the socket and no amount of rehab can help that.
All in on a good run from the Heat this year. Bosh coming back, McBob actually playing for us, a full season of Goran. Time will tell if Amare and Green buy in and try to play some d.
Justise Winslow is maybe 6 5. Saw him at a Canes game and was shocked at how not much taller he was than me. Still like his athleticism, like Luol, Udon and D-Wade coaching him up and I have a feeling he'll buy into the D first before trying to be an offensive threat.
Wade will be Wade so no sense in really touching on that both injury and play wise.
Justise Winslow is maybe 6 5. Saw him at a Canes game and was shocked at how not much taller he was than me. Still like his athleticism, like Luol, Udon and D-Wade coaching him up and I have a feeling he'll buy into the D first before trying to be an offensive threat.
Wade will be Wade so no sense in really touching on that both injury and play wise.
BTW, Batum missed half a season (45 games) in 2010 with a torn labrum before the season began:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/9993/nicolas-batums-shoulder-surgery
He finished the season (37 games) with 10PPG and 41 3PT% on 3.6 attempts. So, there's a small chance MKG comes back with 35 games remaining and does just fine.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/9993/nicolas-batums-shoulder-surgery
He finished the season (37 games) with 10PPG and 41 3PT% on 3.6 attempts. So, there's a small chance MKG comes back with 35 games remaining and does just fine.
Whiteside is a wild card. Regardless of the niggling injury he has, I dunno if he's right for the team or a contender in general.
If Zo and Juwan can't get through to you to settle down, be humble, etc. I dunno if he'll ever work.
If Zo and Juwan can't get through to you to settle down, be humble, etc. I dunno if he'll ever work.
Who do the nets even have, just about the only dudes I recognized on that team other than Brolo are now elsewhere.
By Slizz Go To PostWhiteside is a wild card. Regardless of the niggling injury he has, I dunno if he's right for the team or a contender in general.Whiteside doesn't need to be humble. Hes settled down ever since he knocked Olynyk on his ass.
If Zo and Juwan can't get through to you to settle down, be humble, etc. I dunno if he'll ever work.
Did you watch his media day interviews? Sounded 10x more mature.
tile has no grip they wouldn't use tile.
Also people forget how good the Nets on d last year and how well they played after the all- star break
Also people forget how good the Nets on d last year and how well they played after the all- star break
By blackace Go To Posttile has no grip they wouldn't use tile.24th in defensive efficiency(worse after the asb)?
Also people forget how good the Nets on d last year and how well they played after the all- star break
17-13 after the ASB?
Dwill-Bropez-Thad had some good games near the end but idk
trying to figure out when psy became when of my favorite posters tbh
By blackace Go To Posttile has no grip they wouldn't use tile.their hotstreak was just about as legit as boston's
Also people forget how good the Nets on d last year and how well they played after the all- star break
Pacers are gonna be the surprise team with a hot streak this year. Whether or not they can maintain it is left to be seen. Syphon to ditch the Knicks for the Pacers again.
Bucks will probably be in the same scenario too, hot streak and do well but might fizz out midway through. Blazers/Hawks syndrome.
Boston really needs a good trade for a star. They're doing well with what they have but Bradley deserves better pieces to coach. Probably 6th seed or perennial 7-8 seed.
Bucks will probably be in the same scenario too, hot streak and do well but might fizz out midway through. Blazers/Hawks syndrome.
Boston really needs a good trade for a star. They're doing well with what they have but Bradley deserves better pieces to coach. Probably 6th seed or perennial 7-8 seed.
By reilo Go To PostIt's probably a rubber compound.
By Vahagn Go To PostIt could very easily just be wood, no?
It's wood. You can see some of the wood panels and "tile" panels run into each other. Look at the bottom of the "S". It's one large square that runs into the inbounds court.