By DY_nasty Go To PostYou know, I never got to say it before because I was too busy just making fun of everyone at the time
But I don't think Smush was THAT BAD of a PG. I think he could've actually turned into something decent had he been on a team that gave a fuck about developing anyone (outside of Bynum of course)
He wasn't that bad of a shooter. And he was a good athlete. But as a PG he was atrocious. Truly the worst decision making starter the Lakers have ever had at that position. He played on teams before LA. He was atrocious there too.
We replaced him with a role player in Derek Fisher with atrocious defense and everyone was raving about how amazing of an upgrade it was. Trust me, Smush was asscheeks.
Also, Lakers developed Vujacic, Farmar, Ariza, Brown, Walton during those few years as well as Bynum. We even made Kwame look semi competent in spots.
Went from being buried on the bench to being a starter. Can't really say we didn't give him opportunities to get better.
I swear Sasha Vujacic could have been somebody with even the slightest bit of offensive/defensive awareness
I thought he was gonna break out after the first run against Boston but after Ray Allen put him on skates nobody took him serious anymore
I thought he was gonna break out after the first run against Boston but after Ray Allen put him on skates nobody took him serious anymore
Wade stays late teaching Winslow post moves
At 33, Wade is embracing the role of professor with Winslow as his student.Link
“As his career develops, hopefully he’s able to do multiple things on the floor, but right now there’s gonna be certain things (Erik Spoelstra) wants him to do, and some of those things I’m good at,” Wade said. “I’m just passing down knowledge to someone who I think could be good at things that I have strengths at. It’s gonna take a while, but if he figures it out at 21, he’s ahead of the curve. I figured it out at like 27.
By DY_nasty Go To PostI can't think of a basketball fate worse than having a completely incompetent starting PG. Watching Larry Drew III run the offense at UNC was the low point as a fan.I watched this as a passerby and question if I should just start watching Tennis. Turnover Jesus was real.
then he became a Sixer
and was our best PG….wrrryyyy
yall made me check in on eric maynor
say what now, plays for the knights who say ni in a place from mgs3?
Eric Demarqua Maynor is an American professional basketball player who plays for Nizhny Novgorod of the VTB United League. He played college basketball for the Virginia Commonwealth University Rams.
say what now, plays for the knights who say ni in a place from mgs3?
By Vahagn Go To PostHe wasn't that bad of a shooter. And he was a good athlete. But as a PG he was atrocious. Truly the worst decision making starter the Lakers have ever had at that position. He played on teams before LA. He was atrocious there too.Yal haven't even wanted a PG outside of Derek Fisher though.
We replaced him with a role player in Derek Fisher with atrocious defense and everyone was raving about how amazing of an upgrade it was. Trust me, Smush was asscheeks.
Also, Lakers developed Vujacic, Farmar, Ariza, Brown, Walton during those few years as well as Bynum. We even made Kwame look semi competent in spots.
Went from being buried on the bench to being a starter. Can't really say we didn't give him opportunities to get better.
Lakers haven't really been about that young PG life since you got Kobe. Fish is one of the few guys in the league with the balls to look-off Kobe every once in a while.
By PSYCH! Go To PostWade stays late teaching Winslow post movesThat's probably the best thing dude could be doing. More wings should learn how to post up. Winslow got a godbody too.
Link
By DY_nasty Go To PostYal haven't even wanted a PG outside of Derek Fisher though.
Lakers haven't really been about that young PG life since you got Kobe. Fish is one of the few guys in the league with the balls to look-off Kobe every once in a while. That's probably the best thing dude could be doing. More wings should learn how to post up. Winslow got a godbody too.
That's the bar in using though. "The we have a superstar wing that can run the offense so our PG just needs to be somewhat intelligent and hit shots"
That's been Lebron, Wade, Jordan too. Mostly role playing PG's who can shoot and not be the lowest IQ player in the league. Even on that metric, Smush was ass. Like, Chalmers and Booby Gibson would be an upgrade levels of ass.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postyall made me check in on eric maynor
say what now, plays for the knights who say ni in a place from mgs3?
Gonna come back as a Boss tho
sorrrryyyyy
By Vahagn Go To PostThat's the bar in using though. "The we have a superstar wing that can run the offense so our PG just needs to be somewhat intelligent and hit shots"Fair.
That's been Lebron, Wade, Jordan too. Mostly role playing PG's who can shoot and not be the lowest IQ player in the league. Even on that metric, Smush was ass. Like, Chalmers and Booby Gibson would be an upgrade levels of ass.
Just kinda glad we're generally moving away from the era of 1 on 5
already posted but someone typed out gilbert's response to the suspension and gun shit:
http://deadspin.com/gilbert-arenas-posts-rebuttal-to-caron-butlers-version-1735566952?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
I respect Caron Butler's book and got my copy but the guns in the locker room story is FALSE in his book.
Butler and I were asleep and JaVale McGee, Javaris Crittenton, and Earl Boykins were playing cards. By the time I woke up Crittenton was balls deep in losing so I decided to join the game. Crittenton got booed which means he did get one book of spades, so he had to match the pot which was $1,100, but $800 was his so he just lost $800 and the pot is now $1,400 and $1,100 of it is his.
JaVale McGee won the first $1,100 pot so he scooped the money. Boykins asked JaVale, "can I get my $200 now since you have money?" JaVale said "after we land, I don't wanna jinx myself." Crittenton spazzed. "give that nigga his money, you just won my money pay that nigga,” so I jumped in and said "damn dog, that's between them two niggas." He turned to me and said, "fuck you nigga" and I responded, "shit you owe me $200, I think you owe Caron Butler $300, but we ain't saying shit." Crittenton pops off again: "Oh fuck you nigga you would try to money-talk somebody."
So now it's my deal. Earl said I'm out. JaVale said I don't need cards. Crittenton needed five new cards so most likely he was about to match the pot once again so I said I'm out knowing JaVale had AKQ, so since it was Crittenton's money in the post there was no need to fight if he was going to get booed. I showed my hand and Crittenton got mad I had three trump cards and didn't fight with him. So he screams MISDEAL, Gil showed his hand! JaVale said fuck that I win, I have AKQ.
So Crittenton tries to use misdeal as a way of starting the hand over so I said y'all figure that out. I walked to the back of the plane and they stayed arguing, but Earl convinced them that JaVale won. Crittenton yells loudly FUCKIN MISDEAL so I yelled back come get the shit with yo hands if you wanna misdeal.
When the plane lands he walks back talking tough, saying if we were in the streets I'd pop you in your knees. I said shit I'll give you the guns to do it on Monday. It was Saturday, and we had Sunday off. I get to the gym on Monday at 8 a.m. and put four empty guns on his chair and a note that said pick one. No one saw me touch a gun or put them there. With Crittenton came in I was in the training room. Crittenton, DeShawn Stevenson, Andray Blatche, and Dominic McGuire were the only ones in the locker room when I walked in.
So Crittenton says what's this shit? I said you said you were gonna shoot me so nigga there go guns so pick one, meaning pick the one you are going to shoot me with like you said. He said I don't need this shit. That's when Caron is now in the room, and a trainer. Crittenton takes the guns off his seat and throws them on the floor, hitting the trainers foot. He runs into the training room and Crittenton pulls out a little silver gun that Eddie Murphy shot the pinkie toe off with lol (I'm not going to say if it was loaded or pointed at me, no need to bash a man who can't defend his name). Let's just say I started laughing and said put that Harlem Nights gun away, look at the shit I'm GIVING you, imagine what I have at home so you can keep those. The fucking end.
JaVale picks up my guns and takes them to my car. Caron hides Crittenton's gun in the locker room. I was in the jacuzzi so Crittenton comes in with me and we started talking and he said I play too much, and I told him he was just a hot head. We started shooting around.
They called Crittenton first to ask what happened. I was last so the story became I pulled a gun and wanted to shoot Crittenton. But I owed him money LMAO. I owe money but I'm gonna shoot you #WhereTheyDoThatAt. If he owed me money, I make $20 million so I wouldn't pull a GUN for $1,100 SMDH. This happened December 21, and the story was told January 1.
Like I said no one saw me touch, hold, grab, move anything. The funny thing is, I got suspended 50 games, charged with a felony and the only teammate Crittenton decided to call when he needed money for his mom was me because he knows I won't hold a grudge against a teammate and I gave him $60,000 for his mom's surgery. I sent money after he just said he was scared for his life, but I said don't worry about me, I'll take the blame what do you need?
I do regret making fun of him and calling his bluff, the same thing I've done with Matt Barnes and Derek Fisher is the same shit I did that day. I wish him the best and Caron Butler's book to sell out, but what I wrote is the real story.
http://deadspin.com/gilbert-arenas-posts-rebuttal-to-caron-butlers-version-1735566952?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
why does gilbert even talk about it
like--critt is a killer, your name is basically clear from this shit based on that fact alone
putting your side to it and basically showing you were just clown shoes is a dumb look all the way around
like--critt is a killer, your name is basically clear from this shit based on that fact alone
putting your side to it and basically showing you were just clown shoes is a dumb look all the way around
oh shit lmao. best string of sentences klay has put together in his life
Klay Thompson about the Clippers:
"If we got lucky, look at our record against them last year. I'm pretty sure we smacked them."
"Didn't they lose to the Rockets? Exactly. So haha. That just makes me laugh. That's funny. Weren't they up 3-1 too?"
"Yeah, tell them I said that. That's funny. That's funny."
"I wanted to play the Clippers last year, but they couldn't handle their business"
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postwhy does gilbert even talk about itBecause someone else is telling a story, again. Gilbert seemingly cares about setting the record straight.
like–critt is a killer, your name is basically clear from this shit based on that fact alone
putting your side to it and basically showing you were just clown shoes is a dumb look all the way around
By reilo Go To PostBecause someone else is telling a story, again. Gilbert seemingly cares about setting the record straight.
this is about street cred
he's more interested in making it known that he pays his debts than he is about justifying his actions at all--to the point where he literally refuses to paint a dude who's serving a 20+ year bid right now in a bad light
he hasn't even begun to mature yet--this organization would love to have him repping them in an official capacity but he's more immature at 33 than kids in high school right now
I make $20 million so I wouldn't pull a GUN for $1,100 SMDH.So what amount *would* you threaten somebody's life for, Gilbert?
LaVine was dead last in ESPN’s Real Plus-Minus among 83 point guards. He turned the ball over on a revolting 27 percent of pick-and-rolls he finished with a shot, drawn foul, or cough-up — the 13th-worst rate among 188 ball handlers with at least 50 such possessions, per Synergy Sports. Minnesota was awful regardless of who played, but it was historically awful when poor LaVine was on the floor trying to remember how he had set up the offense the day before in practice. He was objectively terrible, but he became famous because he is just as objectively the greatest dunker the league has seen since peak Vince Carter. Aesthetes held their noses as LaVine’s fame grew: Is he a real basketball player or an empty showman destined to light up pro-am games in late July?http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-transition-game-in-minnesota-lavine-gets-the-nod-while-martin-takes-a-seat/
We’re about to find out.
By reilo Go To Posthttp://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-transition-game-in-minnesota-lavine-gets-the-nod-while-martin-takes-a-seat/So i guess ESPN thinks he will be the best guard in the league?
When I think insufferable NBA writers, Zach Lowe definitely comes to mind. He's so terrible. So insufferable. What an awful human being.
By KingGondo Go To PostSo what amount *would* you threaten somebody's life for, Gilbert?
it's an expression
By Vahagn Go To PostThe analytics crowd is really really insufferable
I agree with this
By knux-future Go To Post
We drafted a Robot
Jahlil counting down the days until he goes to the free agency. :p
By blackace Go To PostI agree with thisKeep holdin that water for your boy
By reilo Go To PostWhen I think insufferable NBA writers, Zach Lowe definitely comes to mind. He's so terrible. So insufferable. What an awful human being.
I think ive said, at length that he's probably, if not easily, the best one of the bunch.
By diehard Go To PostKeep holdin that water for your boyare you high?
"I've got my ring fitted for my middle finger"- Bogut on KNBR talking about the Clippers/Rockets hating
these guys goin in. love it lol
these guys goin in. love it lol
By Vahagn Go To PostI think ive said, at length that he's probably, if not easily, the best one of the bunch.I'd say lowe is the best nba writer, period. regardless of use of analytics or not
By Method Go To PostI'd say lowe is the best nba writer, period. regardless of use of analytics or notI'd say 85% of that article on Lavine is about non-analytical stuff he writes about. It's fantastic. Most of the advanced stats stuff is kept to the intro paragraph that I quoted.
I wouldn't even call Lowe an analytics writer. The majority of tines in his column he's breaking down actual film, plays, schemes etc
By PSYCH! Go To PostI wouldn't even call Lowe an analytics writer. The majority of tines in his column he's breaking down actual film, plays, schemes etc
Yup, and that's why he's good. It's dudes like the starters I can't stand.
Lowe spends more time finding clips of plays and schemes and breaking them down than any non-coach.
By Face it Tiger.. Go To PostJahlil counting down the days until he goes to the free agency. :p
;_;
By Vahagn Go To PostThe analytics crowd is really really insufferable
I gree
By Vahagn Go To PostI'm a vegetarian and all, but I really love me some blind pig
An Armenian vegetarian?
I'm gonna need to see some DNA proof of your heritage, immediately. Thank you.