By Yurt Go To Postevery single Spanish team is absolutely confirmed to be doping, and you can't blame them, their lax rules allow it.
Obviously Bayern and 2013 BVB. Do you guys remember how they were both pressing that whole season? Mandzukic pressed our whole team outta the pitch
Any Mourinho side
I would be surprised if we were doping, not because it's unlikely (it's actually highly likely) but just because we're utter crap and can't press for shit for more than one half
the only clean club is Arsenal, we're all criminals
So glad you are back.
Every top club dopes.
Well Martins doesn't archive his streams. So Pele, you can live with the memory for me. The world will never see it :P
By Cleff Go To PostSorry, and Europa league clubs and teams from the last European Championships.#PrayForLamela
By Yurt Go To Postwe will not win it, and we ARE out.
have a good night….it'll be the LAST good night you'll have ALL SEASON
By wedward Go To PostSo glad you are back.I doubt Barca do.
Every top club dopes.
I'd be suspicious of clubs like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Porto etc
By pulga Go To PostI see the Specialist in Failure lived up to his name today. When will it end?
2017.
By FootballFan Go To PostI doubt Barca do.
I'd be suspicious of clubs like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Porto etc
Barca absolutely do.
You can't press for an entire season they way they did under Pep without it.
By wedward Go To PostBarca absolutely do.You underestimate Pep's motivational skills. :P
You can't press for an entire season they way they did under Pep without it.
This conversation reminds me of that guy on Gaf that only ever came into the Football thread to make lengthy, angry posts about how rife doping in Football is.
By Marston Go To PostThis conversation reminds me of that guy on Gaf that only ever came into the Football thread to make lengthy, angry posts about how rife doping in Football is.
Mention his name three times and he'll pop up here.
By Marston Go To PostThis conversation reminds me of that guy on Gaf that only ever came into the Football thread to make lengthy, angry posts about how rife doping in Football is.I was just going to mention him haha
Went by the username avaya.
Would show up to discuss drugs, then disappear
You can not watch any professional sport and think it's clean. If you think that you are genuinely delusional. Read the Armstrong WADA evidence, it is so incredibly damning to the concept that drugs testing works and that was in cycling which has a testing regime that is incredibly invasive and incredibly strict, the most stringent in sport by far. He never failed a single drugs test, apart from 1 in 1999 which he got off for on some BS medical excuse (which was later exposed as a cover-up).
Once you realise everyone is fucking cheating, some sports more institutionalised to it than others (the Omerta in football is very strong), you are basically leaving so much on the table by not doing it. Arsene got left behind on 'training methods' - this is a coded word. No conspiracy shit, it's obvious what they're referring to. He's a man sticking to his principles but at this point it's pointless.
If you want to understand the strength of the Omerta in football, just look at the treatment of Zeman for exposing Juve's mega-cheat nandrolone/EPO gang.
Italy's rise in the late 80s to late 90s was fuelled by new training methods i.e. the widespread use of EPO/nan. Spain's rise since is due to the advancement of blood doping techniques, micro dosed EPO regimes and hgH for better muscle recovery game-to-game.
Spanish doping is actually heavily institutionalised, the Operation Puerto case and the ordered destruction of hundreds of blood bags from the Fuentes clinic, bags which belonged to non-cycling client's is a damning indictment of the Spanish government. They are such incredible incredible cheats and the behaviour is borderline culturally acceptable.
Also look at the ostracisation of several German players who casually exposed the pharmacy culture in their national team (miracle in 1954 thanks to amphetamines) and clubs.
As a general rule, drugs are like WMDs in sport, once someone else has them, you are giving up such a massive advantage by not doing yourself. If you beat people who are on drugs there is an immediate (and rightly so) incredible amount of suspicion on you. The medical professionals who supply athletes say as much themselves.
The problem is with vested interests and money. The fallout from the football revelations would be one for the ages. But no one is paying attention and we go through the sham of joke-status urine tests.
I have to admit the Armstrong WADA evidence (i already thought he was dodgy given the sheer amount of claims made against him) was utterly eye opening for me personally and kinda took a lot of the joy out of watching sports for me. The ineffecacy of even the strictest of testing controls (blood passport pioneered in the wake of the Armstrong thing is full of holes) was jarring to me.
I'd prefer people be open and honest about what's really going on. Some people don't care, and fair enough, others are still locked in a fantasy world where they still believe in the righteous and saintly nature of their favoured sports teams/personalities (tennis fans in particular). But the sheer tribal nature of football just drew me back in. I still root for the asteroid to hit the stadium when Chavs and Mancs play each other. I still hate the Spudz.
No they do not use the same 'training methods' or 'diet'. Those are code for the most obvious shit in the world. There is only one reason a 35yr old playing in 30+degrees did not suffer cramp while players in the prime of their physical fitness succumbed to it.
Typical shit effort from the usual suspects. Typical EPO boosted performance from the Italians.
Once you realise everyone is fucking cheating, some sports more institutionalised to it than others (the Omerta in football is very strong), you are basically leaving so much on the table by not doing it. Arsene got left behind on 'training methods' - this is a coded word. No conspiracy shit, it's obvious what they're referring to. He's a man sticking to his principles but at this point it's pointless.
If you want to understand the strength of the Omerta in football, just look at the treatment of Zeman for exposing Juve's mega-cheat nandrolone/EPO gang.
Italy's rise in the late 80s to late 90s was fuelled by new training methods i.e. the widespread use of EPO/nan. Spain's rise since is due to the advancement of blood doping techniques, micro dosed EPO regimes and hgH for better muscle recovery game-to-game.
Spanish doping is actually heavily institutionalised, the Operation Puerto case and the ordered destruction of hundreds of blood bags from the Fuentes clinic, bags which belonged to non-cycling client's is a damning indictment of the Spanish government. They are such incredible incredible cheats and the behaviour is borderline culturally acceptable.
Also look at the ostracisation of several German players who casually exposed the pharmacy culture in their national team (miracle in 1954 thanks to amphetamines) and clubs.
As a general rule, drugs are like WMDs in sport, once someone else has them, you are giving up such a massive advantage by not doing yourself. If you beat people who are on drugs there is an immediate (and rightly so) incredible amount of suspicion on you. The medical professionals who supply athletes say as much themselves.
The problem is with vested interests and money. The fallout from the football revelations would be one for the ages. But no one is paying attention and we go through the sham of joke-status urine tests.
I have to admit the Armstrong WADA evidence (i already thought he was dodgy given the sheer amount of claims made against him) was utterly eye opening for me personally and kinda took a lot of the joy out of watching sports for me. The ineffecacy of even the strictest of testing controls (blood passport pioneered in the wake of the Armstrong thing is full of holes) was jarring to me.
I'd prefer people be open and honest about what's really going on. Some people don't care, and fair enough, others are still locked in a fantasy world where they still believe in the righteous and saintly nature of their favoured sports teams/personalities (tennis fans in particular). But the sheer tribal nature of football just drew me back in. I still root for the asteroid to hit the stadium when Chavs and Mancs play each other. I still hate the Spudz.
No they do not use the same 'training methods' or 'diet'. Those are code for the most obvious shit in the world. There is only one reason a 35yr old playing in 30+degrees did not suffer cramp while players in the prime of their physical fitness succumbed to it.
Typical shit effort from the usual suspects. Typical EPO boosted performance from the Italians.
Wedders pls, behave yourself
EDIT
Prinny, this is nothing personal, but I'd like to get rid of the racism/facism and what not discussions in the thread. So please stop posting pictures like this. It will only spark hostile posts from Real Madrid fans in this case and it won't help the community in any way.
EDIT
Prinny, this is nothing personal, but I'd like to get rid of the racism/facism and what not discussions in the thread. So please stop posting pictures like this. It will only spark hostile posts from Real Madrid fans in this case and it won't help the community in any way.
By Linius Go To PostWell Martins doesn't archive his streams. So Pele, you can live with the memory for me. The world will never see it :P
It was a great hit.
Thank you for that experience Randy.
By dark_prinny Go To Post
What a club.
1) a fan does not represent the club
2) youre just salty because Madrid is pro-refugees
3) making yourself more like the guy in the photo
Incredible.
I agree with what wed says, but at what point do you think clubs dope? Are bottom of the league sides doing it, championship sides? I assumed it is just the very top in europe - barcas, bayern, real etc (and didn't really consider english teams doing it, though there's no reason they wouldn't)
I don't think the club of Lucas, Allen, Sturridge, Lallana are doping
I don't think the club of Lucas, Allen, Sturridge, Lallana are doping
By FootballFan Go To PostI doubt Barca do.Get fucked cunt.
I'd be suspicious of clubs like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Porto etc
By Avaya Go To PostIf you want to understand the strength of the Omerta in football, just look at the treatment of Zeman for exposing Juve's mega-cheat nandrolone/EPO gang.It's not cheating if you're not using illegal drugs, which is something Juve have proved through courts. Unlike other 'clean' clubs.
Fuck off, Avaya. Get cancer, Zeman.
Funny thing is, I didn't even saw Pulga's posts before posting the pic. I swear is purely coincidental.
lol
lol
Tuesday can't come soon enough.
Dat Fifa.
Dat Slaent FC.
Dat Arsenal finally commanded by a competent person.
Dat Fifa.
Dat Slaent FC.
Dat Arsenal finally commanded by a competent person.
By Linius Go To PostPrinny, this is nothing personal, but I'd like to get rid of the racism/facism and what not discussions in the thread. So please stop posting pictures like this. It will only spark hostile posts from Real Madrid fans in this case and it won't help the community in any way.
omg randy finally flexing his mod powers
i think i am in love
By dark_prinny Go To Posthelp
Rumoured pool team for tomorrow:
Mignolet – Clyne, Škrtel, Sakho, Moreno – Lucas – Milner, Emre Can – Coutinho – Sturridge, Benteke
Brendan getting desperate putting Dan straight back into the first 11
Mignolet – Clyne, Škrtel, Sakho, Moreno – Lucas – Milner, Emre Can – Coutinho – Sturridge, Benteke
Brendan getting desperate putting Dan straight back into the first 11
By dark_prinny Go To PostOk, Ok. FFS.
I just hope you can see how posting a picture like that with a snappy comment only makes the atmosphere worse. No one would have a problem with a normal discussion (in an adult way) about refugees or other serious subjects. But because a lot of posters can't seem to get a grip on themselves when it comes to these matters it's maybe be better to leave those subjects for specific threads outside this community instead. Some people come in here to read up on football and just don't want to be confronted with all these hate posts back and forth about heavy subjects. And recently especially it seems to get out of hand a lot. Even causing people to just leave the thread for what it is for a while. There's just too much negativity around. Banter tied to football is fun, but calling people names in these heated refugee debates creates something else.
And again, this is not just you. It's a whole group of people. Let's just try to keep it positive in here.
Damn, this difficult spike in Bravely Default
In the space of 2 minutes, typical enemies go from doing 1-10 damage per attack, to 80-100.
Gonna need to wrap my head around the battle system before I can beat Onamas I think
In the space of 2 minutes, typical enemies go from doing 1-10 damage per attack, to 80-100.
Gonna need to wrap my head around the battle system before I can beat Onamas I think
By Pele.gif Go To PostTuesday can't come soon enough.You should hit up Fergie or Killer7, they might gonna carry over the PS4 club we had last season.
Dat Fifa.
Dat Slaent FC.
Dat Arsenal finally commanded by a competent person.
By Pennywise Go To PostYou should hit up Fergie or Killer7, they might gonna carry over the PS4 club we had last season.Randy, Phlebs, Martins, João, a lot of people is getting Fifa 16 this week.
Maybe even Dean.
Dean pls
By Bungie Go To PostWe're going to smash Palace tomorrow
By rvy Go To PostThe price? I don't know.
Are we gonna do Slaent FC this year?
We should do Slaent FC this year.
I'm obviously the attacking midfielder, so ya'll need t deal with that.
Pelé should be the keeper.
Fergie is the greatest winger of all times.
You're probably shit, I'll bench you m8
By Pele.gif Go To PostRandy, Phlebs, Martins, João, a lot of people is getting Fifa 16 this week.Dean will be always offside, get used to it.
Maybe even Dean.
Dean pls
People will tell him and he will still way on the goalie line.
I might also bite in the end.
It was so much fun, we had like nearly 300 games together.
N8 and I were a magical duo, but he barely used his player Rodney Turkeyburger.
By Pennywise Go To PostDean will be always offside, get used to it.
People will tell him and he will still way on the goalie line.
I might also bite in the end.
It was so much fun, we had like nearly 300 games together.
N8 and I were a magical duo, but he barely used his player Rodney Turkeyburger.
I can imagine. I'll probably have a high ping but it may be manageble.
Rui and Jesal are getting too. I can see we gathering 11 legends online.
By JTS Go To Post"João is getting FIFA 16 this week" 💀💀💀💀💀💀 help
unless you're buying me of course 🌞👌
Under pressure
By Pele.gif Go To PostI can imagine. I'll probably have a high ping but it may be manageble.FootballFan played with us, and Pharaoh.
Rui and Jesal are getting too. I can see we gathering 11 legends online.
Pharaoh dropped out a couple of times and FF said his ping was part of the reason he failed with a penatly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd7trkOpobE
By JTS Go To Post"João is getting FIFA 16 this week" 💀💀💀💀💀💀 help
unless you're buying me of course 🌞👌
I just know you wont resist gajo
By Pennywise Go To PostFootballFan played with us, and Pharaoh.So many missed pelanties. It's really tough to get the bar right with the delay lol
Pharaoh dropped out a couple of times and FF said his ping was part of the reason he failed with a penatly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd7trkOpobE
Dat Dean miss tho
By Pele.gif Go To PostSo many missed pelanties. It's really tough to get the bar right with the delay lolFF had a hard time with his ping and Pekka wasn't really the best with his aim, he always tried manual passes and ended up as our Cleverly.
Dat Dean miss tho
There are many more vids on the account, where Dean scored some beautiful goals.