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I am the Almighty Poster of Links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqb3Mgc_T0M&ab_channel=GameInformer

It's got impressions from the GameInformer guys, a lengthy Q&A section with Josh Holmes and Tim Longo, and finally the least related to Halo 5 but still interesting interview with Marty O'Donnell and Jaime Griesemer about the origin of the Halo theme tune and what they're up to nowadays.

I wonder if we'll get to make customs that allow the use of the revive mechanic. I could see how it could be fun .....maybe. lol

By derpface123 Go To PostI am the Almighty Poster of Links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqb3Mgc_T0M&ab_channel=GameInformer

It's got impressions from the GameInformer guys, a lengthy Q&A section with Josh Holmes and Tim Longo, and finally the least related to Halo 5 but still interesting interview with Marty O'Donnell and Jaime Griesemer about the origin of the Halo theme tune and what they're up to nowadays.

old, but good

Oh Greenshill. I still won't watch any of your content.

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostOh Greenshill. I still won't watch any of your content.

He can be a bit of a kiss-ass but that doesn't make his videos less informative.

By derpface123 Go To PostHe can be a bit of a kiss-ass but that doesn't make his videos less informative.

I wait until others talk about the content. I will not give him any support, whether it be through clicks or views.

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostI wait until others talk about the content. I will not give him any support, whether it be through clicks or views.

Care to explain? He must be a pretty awful person for you to be so against watching his videos.

By derpface123 Go To PostCare to explain? He must be a pretty awful person for you to be so against watching his videos.

Unthinking positivity in Rag's kryptonite. If he were to watch a Greenskull video it'd be like the end of The Lost Ark.

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostOh Greenshill. I still won't watch any of your content.

Cool story, braj

Wait wait wait- I missed this one- there's a Halo ground wars tabletop game coming also... am I super late to this? I feel super late to this.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/5/9100335/halo-battle-fleets-gen-con-2015

You're super late to this.

By derpface123 Go To PostYou're super late to this.

I knew about the space combat one, just not the ground wars one. Awesome.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostWait wait wait- I missed this one- there's a Halo ground wars tabletop game coming also… am I super late to this? I feel super late to this.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/5/9100335/halo-battle-fleets-gen-con-2015

Holy shit, news to me.

By derpface123 Go To PostStrongly disagree with you there. I see Breakout as a Counter-Strike-style competitive Halo gamemode, and Counter-Strike does not have the ability to revive your teammates if they go down. The whole point of Breakout is that you only get one life anyways so the importance of coordination, strategy and not making stupid mistakes is drastically increased.

I mean, maybe you'd have a point if the guns behaved like they do in Counter Strike? The one and done style of play just doesn't fit the Halo sandbox, at all. Breakout in the beta was pretty terrible, and adding a neutral objective isn't going to change that.

The revive mechanic would have penalty timers and take a decent amount of time to pull off, I'm not saying the game should allow you to chain revive with no penalty.

The way Breakout was setup in the beta, it was almost impossible to win once you were outnumbered, unless the other players were just absolute dog shit.

I mean, are there actual people here who thought Breakout was good in the beta, and is going to be a successful playlist in retail? I just don't see it.

By derpface123 Go To PostCare to explain? He must be a pretty awful person for you to be so against watching his videos.

343 could all shit in a single tubesock, and he would praise it.

So Fathom needs Sealab 2021 easter eggs or I'm going to be pretty disappointed.

By Fata1moose Go To PostSo Fathom needs Sealab 2021 easter eggs or I'm going to be pretty disappointed.

The Hesh Birthday rap.

By Fata1moose Go To PostSo Fathom needs Sealab 2021 easter eggs or I'm going to be pretty disappointed.

I want Jon H Benjamin to voice a Spartan or I will demand a refund.

By Ram Go To PostI mean, maybe you'd have a point if the guns behaved like they do in Counter Strike? The one and done style of play just doesn't fit the Halo sandbox, at all. Breakout in the beta was pretty terrible, and adding a neutral objective isn't going to change that.

The revive mechanic would have penalty timers and take a decent amount of time to pull off, I'm not saying the game should allow you to chain revive with no penalty.

The way Breakout was setup in the beta, it was almost impossible to win once you were outnumbered, unless the other players were just absolute dog shit.

I mean, are there actual people here who thought Breakout was good in the beta, and is going to be a successful playlist in retail? I just don't see it.

I enjoyed Breakout and could see myself playing it more than I do Team Snipers or SWAT. I enjoy one life gametypes and feel it can work well in Halo if it's structured well.

Have you tried Blast Resort in Action Sack? That's a one life Assault gametype that's on Halo 2 Midship with Plasma Rifle starts. Surprisingly fun.

By Ram Go To PostThe way Breakout was setup in the beta, it was almost impossible to win once you were outnumbered, unless the other players were just absolute dog shit.

I mean, are there actual people here who thought Breakout was good in the beta, and is going to be a successful playlist in retail? I just don't see it.

I know a ton of people who loved Breakout. The whole point is that it's hard to win once you're outnumbered, that's part of the thrill of the gamemode, and why you see so many videos of amazing clutch 1v5 round wins in Counter-Strike (I know, bringing it back to Counter-Strike again). I think it fits the Halo sandbox quite well, it's just never been done before so perhaps it's more jarring to people playing it for the first time.

Unfortunately your opinion is in the minority based on what I've seen, but that's okay because it's not going to be the only mode in Halo 5.

For Breakout, I just don't think that the shields should be so low. I think it should be Pistol starts, with normal base shields and an objective.

Maybe instead of lower shields from the start, have it to were shields don't recharge (I think this is how health is handled on SnD in CoD.)

By FUNKNOWN iXi Go To PostI enjoyed Breakout and could see myself playing it more than I do Team Snipers or SWAT. I enjoy one life gametypes and feel it can work well in Halo if it's structured well.

Have you tried Blast Resort in Action Sack? That's a one life Assault gametype that's on Halo 2 Midship with Plasma Rifle starts. Surprisingly fun.

If it's structured well, spoiler, it won't be. Similar to how we're still getting AR/Pistol starts in Arena, some things never change. I'm an avid pistol fan, but I already know that shit is gonna be a dumpster fire once you start facing teams that lock you down with BR/DMRs.

By derpface123 Go To PostI know a ton of people who loved Breakout. The whole point is that it's hard to win once you're outnumbered, that's part of the thrill of the gamemode, and why you see so many videos of amazing clutch 1v5 round wins in Counter-Strike (I know, bringing it back to Counter-Strike again). I think it fits the Halo sandbox quite well, it's just never been done before so perhaps it's more jarring to people playing it for the first time.

Unfortunately your opinion is in the minority based on what I've seen, but that's okay because it's not going to be the only mode in Halo 5.

I haven't seen anyone really say anything about Breakout, I take that more as a sign of no one cared. I know it's supposed to be harder to win when outnumbered...but you keep comparing it to a game that has weapons that are hard to shoot and a much quicker TTK, lol. Your comparison isn't great.

Just sayin', 343 keeps acting like Breakout is their e-sports mode, and I would gladly take the bet that the masses will not give a shit about it. I don't even think regular Halo 5 will take off as far as that goes, the ship has sailed.

Saw this on Beyond. New gameplay of Fathom. Can see a lot more of the map and kinda make out the layout a bit better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SItgHWTa5wE

Still disappointed that The game wont ship with a btb gametype. Just with "Warzone".

Queue: " but it'll be coming after lunch, DLC is free, etc..., etc..."

By Ram Go To PostJust sayin', 343 keeps acting like Breakout is their e-sports mode, and I would gladly take the bet that the masses will not give a shit about it. I don't even think regular Halo 5 will take off as far as that goes, the ship has sailed.

That must be why they shoutcasted a Breakout game yesterday as part of the Gamescom presentation... Wait a minute. That didn't happen.

The TTK in Breakout isn't the normal Halo 5 TTK as the shields are reduced considerably. It's a more apt comparison than you'd think.

I can't say I understand why people complain about AR/pistol starts so much. It's not like the Slayer BR gamemode won't exist in Halo 5, and it's not like tournament organizers can't just go into the game options and change the AR to a BR. If BR starts end up being what Halo 5 needs to be

FUNKNOWN said he enjoyed Breakout and that he could see himself playing it more than SWAT or Team Snipers as is. He did not say he could see himself playing it more than those modes if it was structured well. He already believes it's structured well and I agree with him. It's fun, it's simple, and managing those insane clutch moments while everyone else on your team is dead and watching your every move is an experience unmatched by any of Halo's other modes.

343 has a team of actual pro players at their disposal, and I think they probably have a better idea of what is best for the game than goobers like us who can only sit here and speculate on how it will turn out once it's done and released.

By belushy Go To PostSaw this on Beyond. New gameplay of Fathom. Can see a lot more of the map and kinda make out the layout a bit better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SItgHWTa5wE

Cool, hadn't seen this before. Thanks for posting.

Also:

I gotta get up at 3:30 tomorrow morning to catch my flight to Austin for RTX, and I'm super hyped to hang out with ma bae, Mix. Any other SL&ENTers plan on being there?

super bummed frankie can't make it

By belushy Go To PostSaw this on Beyond. New gameplay of Fathom. Can see a lot more of the map and kinda make out the layout a bit better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SItgHWTa5wE

Fathom looks like it will be a lot of fun, and the Pistol looks good too.

Also check out how fast the reticle appears with the DMR when you stop sprinting. Really excited about that, being able to shoot quickly after a sprint. So many fine details I've wanted changed in Halo finally being adjusted. I've always been an advocate for a faster Halo with more visceral, consistent and fair gameplay :']

I can't wait to play this damn game. TMCC really puts it into perspective how terrible Bungie was for this franchise when it comes to competitive multiplayer and what a poor decision it was for 343 to chase anything other than the core Halo fan as their primary focus. Warzone is great and their presentation of two separate multiplayer experiences is how they need to handle it, so good on them for conveying that message at Gamescom.

I really have to say this. I can't hold it in any longer.

How the hell did anyone play Halo 2 or 3 competitively? The aiming is all messed up.

Seriously. Move your analog stick in a circle in any of those games and your crosshair moves in a square for some reason. I knew my aim was better in Halo 4, and now I know why. In Halo 4, it's actually a circle when you move your crosshair in a circle. I don't know what was wrong with the aiming in previous Halo games but 343 fixed it.

Simms gameplay on the new version of Empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jojQ8jQ3u0&feature=youtu.be

By belushy Go To PostSimms gameplay on the new version of Empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jojQ8jQ3u0&feature=youtu.be

That's awesome, Plasma caster is a little more interesting than what I originally perceived. Glad they kept the "Perfect" call the same after changing some of the others, as it's perfect. :P

By belushy Go To PostSimms gameplay on the new version of Empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jojQ8jQ3u0&feature=youtu.be

Sweet. Thanks for the link.

It's funny. I remember during the Beta, I just wanted more non-human weapons. But now that Empire has that, I want it to go back to the old human-weapon spawns.

Damn nostalgia.

By belushy Go To PostSimms gameplay on the new version of Empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jojQ8jQ3u0&feature=youtu.be

What is a Perfect Kill?

For the ground pound, is there a set windup duration or can you cut it short for less damage? Can it be cancelled?

By belushy Go To PostSimms gameplay on the new version of Empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jojQ8jQ3u0&feature=youtu.be

I want to play it right now.

By JayEleven Go To PostWhat is a Perfect Kill?

For the ground pound, is there a set windup duration or can you cut it short for less damage? Can it be cancelled?

It's getting a 4-shot. Basically, don't miss any of your bullets.

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostStill disappointed that The game wont ship with a btb gametype. Just with "Warzone".

Queue: " but it'll be coming after lunch, DLC is free, etc…, etc…"

Mmmmm....lunch.

By FUNKNOWN iXi Go To PostHave you tried Blast Resort in Action Sack? That's a one life Assault gametype that's on Halo 2 Midship with Plasma Rifle starts. Surprisingly fun.

Our group played it on Ivory Tower the other night. Was fairly fun. Made the already tense Ivory Tower 1-bomb gametype (because 2 arm locations) that much more tense. Most of our arms came from some clutch kill on one side as a distraction while our bomb carrier armed on the other side.

By derpface123 Go To PostI really have to say this. I can't hold it in any longer.

How the hell did anyone play Halo 2 or 3 competitively? The aiming is all messed up.

Seriously. Move your analog stick in a circle in any of those games and your crosshair moves in a square for some reason. I knew my aim was better in Halo 4, and now I know why. In Halo 4, it's actually a circle when you move your crosshair in a circle. I don't know what was wrong with the aiming in previous Halo games but 343 fixed it.

I've not had this problem. H3 is the only one where the mechanics for aiming could make it an issue. The aim acceleration BS in that game was and is a horrible thing.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostMmmmm….lunch.

Tasty tasty Blamite.

H3 is the only one with the aim acceleration.

And coincidentally, the only one I have issues aiming in.

Watching Simms' gameplay: Game looks good still. Hoping the weapon/nade highlights can be turned off. I see grenade hitmarkers are still in. Why????????? At least get them out of competitive gametypes if possible. It's like Promethean Vision Lite. New map layout I like. Having 2 snipes was just bad and choked most of the movement against a good team. Also the new (since the Beta) menu looks very nice. Good improvement.

Speaking of the menu brings me to the worst part of the entire video though. Simms uses toggle crouch.

#DownWithTheToggleCrouchers

Strafe looks really strong

I wish the pistol sounded a little beefier

Gameplay looks amazing tho, can't get here soon enough

By daedalius Go To PostStrafe looks really strong

I wish the pistol sounded a little beefier

Gameplay looks amazing tho, can't get here soon enough

I unfortunately think the pistol's sound design was based on its original ROF. Because when it fired as fast as you pulled the trigger it sounds amazing.

Well, it's no last word, that's for sure.

Maybe the legendary pistol will sound more awesome like the CE anniversary pistol did, preferably beefier

By daedalius Go To PostWell, it's no last word, that's for sure.

Maybe the legendary pistol will sound more awesome like the CE anniversary pistol did, preferably beefier

Seems like Buck carries the Legendary pistol since he was seen with a unique one, really hope it's the essentially the CE one, but it could be ODST-like, which the default is actually close to ODST.

By belushy Go To PostSimms gameplay on the new version of Empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jojQ8jQ3u0&feature=youtu.be

Man I'm stoked for this. Did you guys notice they also removed the sports-team interation between the Spartans in the ending animation? I wasn't majorly offended by the old one or anything, but I like this better, for sure!

By a zoojoo Go To PostI gotta get up at 3:30 tomorrow morning to catch my flight to Austin for RTX, and I'm super hyped to hang out with ma bae, Mix. Any other SL&ENTers plan on being there?

super bummed frankie can't make it

<3 can't wait bae

By CRIMSONxSERAPH Go To PostMan I'm stoked for this. Did you guys notice they also removed the sports-team interation between the Spartans in the ending animation? I wasn't majorly offended by the old one or anything, but I like this better, for sure!

Here we go again.

By NOKYARD Go To PostHere we go again.

Haha, don't get me wrong, I wasn't one of the complainers by any means. I just know there were a lot of people who did dislike it, and I don't recall that being discussed on here, so I thought I'd bring it up. Not trying to start a rage match or anything.

By CRIMSONxSERAPH Go To PostHaha, don't get me wrong, I wasn't one of the complainers by any means. I just know there were a lot of people who did dislike it, and I don't recall that being discussed on here, so I thought I'd bring it up. Not trying to start a rage match or anything.

Just don't insult his Grifball sensibilities and you'll be ok.

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