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By Trey Go To Postthat was actually cute. Salvaged a wack ass character in Lucy just a bit. Of course she did nothing after, and her doing it then didn't really make any sense either, but still. I find some good in any Halo book.

also, lol that entire beginning part of Glasslands. Every character is terrible, Mendez especially. He just randomly catches an attitude after decades of being like third in command of the spartan project, lol. He trains at least two companies of Spartans personally.

Man, I don't like the KFT. so so much wasted potential.

Yea her books were just awful. Ralph's books weren't great either. I was really let down by both authors. Ralph's reminded me of Lord of the Rings. Hours of just walking doing nothing and then when the action starts it is over. Her books just sucked in the character department. Like you said Mendez for example. And the beating Halsey over the head with hatred through them when she wasn't alone in it was just insane.

I did like the action parts of her work though. I liked the whole dealing with the father and finding out the truth parts but that was just surrounded by so much Haley hate wasn't funny. You had character constantly talking about how they wanted to assault her and other such stuff. It's like ok I get it Halsey is the devil. You don't have to keep reminding us every page.

That's the thing though. Those other books might have bits and pieces that could possibly maybe be considered badass, but Nylund's are chock full all the way through.

If I were to list the Halo books I like most in descending order...

Silentium
Ghosts of Onyx
Fall of Reach
Cryptum
Primordium
Mortal Dictata
Glasslands
Broken Circle
Human Weakness
The Thursday War

I truly do not understand the hate for the K5 books. *shrugs*

Naomi is a badass. BB is a class act. The exploration of Sanghelios and Sanghelli culture was fascinating. I dunno, there's a lot there that added value to the overall lore.

Thing was, yeah, Halsey definitely should have gotten some blow back. That would have been really interesting. But from random ass ODSTs who don't matter? lol

It should have been centered on Osman and Parangosky, the former who was kinda just there and Parangosky who was just as bad if not worse and whose hypocrisy was so strictly hilarious I couldn't take her character seriously. Write those two characters better and you have two solid ass alternative perspectives to view Halsey through, AND you set up the nexus of ONI's leadership, which is a major player going forward in the game story. Important to nail this story pivot.

It really showed that Traviss didn't read the source material and didn't much care about how her books would fit in the canon. Shame, because I actually liked her Cortana story in Evolutions. and the topic she chose to focus on (Halsey's demons and legacy) deserves some studied writing.

By Trey Go To PostThing was, yeah, Halsey definitely should have gotten some blow back. That would have been really interesting. But from random ass ODSTs who don't matter? It should have been centered on Osman and Parangosky, the former who was kinda just there and Parangosky who was just as bad if not worse and whose hypocrisy was so strictly hilarious I couldn't take her character seriously.

It really showed that Traviss didn't read the source material and didn't much care about how her books would fit in the canon. Shame, because I actually liked her Cortana story in Evolutions. and the topic she chose to focus on (Halsey's demons and legacy) deserves some studied writing.

Oh yea Halsey was no saint but it's like lets just forget everyone else involved and pretend that Halsey did it all by herself. It could have been done really well if they'd had everyone kind of being torn up about it but no every single person was like I wanna hit Halsey, I wanna throw her out an airlock, etc.

By YourExWife Go To Post#WeEsportsNow

You can't just start slinging pornography all over here man.

By Wahrer Go To PostAirhorns didn't go off in your head when Halsey got punched in the face by that Spartan-III?

Pretty funny to go from "normal" humans being afraid to shake a SII's hand vs. a SIII punching an old lady in the face without killing her.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostIf I were to list the Halo books I like most in descending order…

Silentium
Ghosts of Onyx
Fall of Reach
Cryptum
Primordium
Mortal Dictata
Glasslands
Broken Circle
Human Weakness
The Thursday War

I truly do not understand the hate for the K5 books. *shrugs*

Naomi is a badass. BB is a class act. The exploration of Sanghelios and Sanghelli culture was fascinating. I dunno, there's a lot there that added value to the overall lore.

It's not so much hate for all of them. For me, GL and TTW were decent books, even though I'm not the biggest fan of her writing. But MD, as I stated in my video review a while back, is just poop put into word form. There's all this stuff she could have explored more in depth and this cool espionage thing that should have been amazing, but every other page she has to compare Halsey to Hitler and the characters are just fucking retarded. The future military has some view of science/scientists/intelligent people that not even the current military has. Even today, the entire success of everything we do depends on "Eggheads" and the average soldier fully understands that. It might have worked in the age of 80's B movies, but as a 21st century novel about 26th century military prowess and action, it just came off as ridiculous. I have plenty of other points, but you can watch the vid if you want to hear those.

Also, placing Broken Circle near the bottom? I know art preference is subjective, but you've got to be joking. It was the first really good Halo novel in some time.

Finally, you left out Hunters in the Dark, which deserves to be on the very fucking bottom, btw.

By Granadier Go To PostYou can't just start slinging pornography all over here man.

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostThen where would a third party "communism or Socialism or libertarian etc" stand? In this apt analogy.

H1 Magnum starts master race :^]

List time?

Silentium
Fall of Reach
Ghosts Of Onyx
Cryptum
Contact Harvest
First Strike
Evolutions
Broken Circle
Primordium
The Flood
The Thursday War
Thursday War
Mortal Dictata
Glasslands
The Cole Protocol

By YourExWife Go To PostIt's not so much hate for all of them. For me, GL and TTW were decent books, even though I'm not the biggest fan of her writing. But MD, as I stated in my video review a while back, is just poop put into word form. There's all this stuff she could have explored more in depth and this cool espionage thing that should have been amazing, but every other page she has to compare Halsey to Hitler and the characters are just fucking retarded. The future military has some view of science/scientists/intelligent people that not even the current military has. Even today, the entire success of everything we do depends on "Eggheads" and the average soldier fully understands that. It might have worked in the age of 80's B movies, but as a 21st century novel about 26th century military prowess and action, it just came off as ridiculous. I have plenty of other points, but you can watch the vid if you want to hear those.

Also, placing Broken Circle near the bottom? I know art preference is subjective, but you've got to be joking. It was the first really good Halo novel in some time.

Finally, you left out Hunters in the Dark, which deserves to be on the very fucking bottom, btw.

Well to be fair I didn't list all of the books lol. The ones I listed are the ones I'd list as favorites. Broken Circle was awesome, and its placement on the list is skewed in that I enjoyed the books above it even more. I'm still on the fence about Hunters in the Dark- I'm going to read it a second time.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on Mortal Dictata and Traviss. I found them to be great reads that added a ton of depth to the lore. Halsey did some terrible things, and that all came full circle... What I think can get confused is that those novels are being told from ONI's perspective, so of course they are going to be bent even further towards undercutting Halsey and making her the scapegoat for things they helped sanction in the first place. This becomes all the more apparent post-Hunt the Truth... ONI will sell anyone out and at any cost. The books and the audio drama have a lot in common, and it makes them even stronger additions in how cohesive they are.

By Trey Go To PostList time?

Silentium
Fall of Reach
Ghosts Of Onyx
Cryptum
Contact Harvest
First Strike
Evolutions
Broken Circle
Primordium
The Flood
The Thursday War
Thursday War
Mortal Dictata
Glasslands
The Cole Protocol

Silentium... Gah. Silentium. What a fantastic book, truly.

By Wesleyshark Go To Postadded a ton of depth to the lore.

So what? So did the Star Wars prequels. And like the prequels, nothing about the way any of the military *people* act is believable.

What I think can get confused is that those novels are being told from ONI's perspective, so of course they are going to be bent even further towards undercutting Halsey and making her the scapegoat for things they helped sanction in the first place.

No they aren't. They're told from the characters' perspectives, and those characters are ridiculous. Scientists are viewed the same way they are by ignorant rednecks nowadays in the US. It makes no sense. It's 343 via Traviss that is undercutting Halsey and scapegoating because that's the framework they decided to go with, along with their massive ret-cons of previously established lore. Halsey gets skewered because then they can tell their story that revolves around those creative decisions.

You act like we don't understand the story. We get it. It's the manner in which it's presented that makes it bad. Skewer Halsey all you like, but do it well and believably.

Similarly, HITD could have been great with better writing. Instead, despite its short length, it was a very tedious read with very cardboard writing. Every time David switched POVs, he would repeat half of the events or descriptions of the previous chapter/sub-chapter, with the only exceptions being when Vale went on her "lets make the villian monologue for half of the book" adventure.

This thread rocks now. Awesome =)

BTW for the Android phone and tablet master race, the dark theme rules. Here is how you do it

1- Install Firefox for mobile from the Google Play Store
2-Install Stylish by going here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/stylish/?src=search
3-Grab a dark theme so go here: https://userstyles.org/styles/116264/indigo-child-slaent-navy
4-?
5-Profit!

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literally 100x better than mine.

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New Mexico kids know what's up.

My list.

14 Day Buy and Play and Other Fairy Tales
Frankie's Guide on How Not to Use Kitchen Knives
One Kill Short of an Over: The Tashi Story
The Wahrer Fan Fiction Compendium (Abridged Version, 4700 pages)
It's Your Internet by YourExWife
#Butts: One Young Lawyer's Descent into Madness
Opinions for Dummies by Jem
Forget Jesus: Why the CE Magnum is the Only Savior You Need by Funknown

By kittens Go To PostMy list.

14 Day Buy and Play and Other Fairy Tales
Frankie's Guide on How Not to Use Kitchen Knives
One Kill Short of an Over: The Tashi Story
The Wahrer Fan Fiction Compendium (Abridged Version, 4700 pages)
It's Your Internet by YourExWife
#Butts: One Young Lawyer's Descent into Madness
Opinions for Dummies by Jem
Forget Jesus: Why the CE Magnum is the Only Savior You Need by Funknown

Unless there's an audio book edition, why bother?

By GringoSuave89 Go To Post

New Mexico kids know what's up.

I'm going to claim victory just because I don't have Comcast.

#KingOfTheDesert

By GringoSuave89 Go To PostUnless there's an audio book edition, why bother?

You have no idea how fast I read. I look forward to lengthy posts as long as they are properly paragraphed. Wait-4700 PAGES, not words? Fuck that :p

By jem0208 Go To PostOkay, Wesley try updating the theme now. It should work fine.
https://userstyles.org/styles/116243/slaent-dark-theme

noiceeeee. thanks for this. :D

can one of you guys update one of the dark theme thread title and give people heads up on the mobile version?
k thanks.

By K@do Go To Postnoiceeeee. thanks for this. :D

can one of you guys update one of the dark theme thread title and give people heads up on the mobile version?
k thanks.

I updated my original thread last night :)

http://slaent.com/thread/320743/

The Thread Theme War plot thickens.

By GringoSuave89 Go To PostUnless there's an audio book edition, why bother?

117649 sleeps

H0lmb0m with the Cold Storage strats.

https://youtu.be/r3nUUwPGcEk

I love watching this guy, the best Halo youtuber IMO.

So this site was built from the ground-up, huh? It's damn nice - responsive, modern, nice layout, etc.

Anyone know what it's built off of? My guess would be Node.js and MongoDB.

Had a random shower thought this morning. This was also pre-coffee, so...

We know that Halsey was attempting to, or at least, making initial moves towards, finding a way to mainpulate slipspace technology in order to create a larger and more-or-less infinite realm of expansion for an AI mind.

What does this all sounds like to you guys?

It sounds like a very primitive variant, or perahps a backdoor recreation, of the Domain.

The Domain, in a modern day likening, is a sort of vast cloud storage of thoughts, dreams, histories, etc.

What Halsey was hoping to create was an unlimited place for an AI to store information.

These two things are not dissimilar at their core.

And in a way, it kinda makes sense that she'd be the one to try and realize this technology, as she is most likely one of the human descendants to have had the subconcious influence of the geas of the Librarian. I wonder if perhaps it was influincing her in some way, before it was potentially transferred to the H-1 clone brain (if it was trasnferred at all, anyway).

History repeats itself. What has happened before will happen again, and in a brief flash this morning, I thought- what if she was unknowingly attempting to create an access portal to the Domain?

I don't have anything to substantiate this other than what we have in Halsey's Journal and what we know about what function the Domain serves, so it could just be random uncaffeinated nonsense lol.

By Wesleyshark Go To Postforerunner crystals

It's worth noting the Assembly also picked up on Halsey's attempts to use 11-dimensional space (known as a "slipspace fractal") as a more or less infinite repository for physical management of AI hardware, which could likewise potentially allow for exponentially faster transmissions, processing speeds, not having to worry about overheating, etc.

I don't know that the Domain functions the way it does by working exclusively within slipspace, though - I think the reason its framework survived at all is because fragments were in slipspace which would prevent it from being completely burnt out by the firing of the Array, but I think ultimately the "recovery" process of the Domain went something like this:

1. Halo ring goes off, everyone dies, Domain takes a severe hit. Because slipspace's "budget" (ability to process mass, inertia, etc. related to size and distance) scales non-linearly in a temporal sense, slipspace would have ordinarily been blocked up for a very long time following the battle between Offensive Bias and Mendicant Bias - but because slipspace activity more or less vanished once everything died and would stay inactive for tens of thousands of years, it was freed up almost immediately. As a result, the Domain's physical repositories (if any) would likely not have anything to "ping," or even so would have to operate under restriction of the speed of light.

2. Pre-UNSC era, ~2000 BC when the Covenant first begins to form. Due to all the activity surrounding it with the Stoic / Reformist conflict of the Prophets and then the war between the Prophets and Elites as well as further indoctrination / appropriation, slipspace activity slowly begins to resume and the fragment of Mendicant Bias stored away on the Keyship "wakes up." As a Forerunner machine that would have relied heavily on the Domain to stay up to date, Mendicant Bias would have likely attempted to reach servers and resume slipspace transmissions, although most hardware or "neural firmware" in this case would have been destroyed.

3. Human-Covenant War. Slipspace is used extensively, and with an authorized Reclaimer species accessing Forerunner technology during the Battle of Installation 04 and earlier in trace amounts (see the downed Forerunner ship on the Reach map Glacier / The Package, etc) the Domain probably begins to receive enough positive flags or checks in the physical realm to begin rebuilding itself in a corporeal fashion - there's no doubt the unfathomable stores of data within the Domain had been backed up on a number of Forerunner installations and could be used to "re-seed" it, though compartmentalization / anti-Flood efforts may have diminished this to a degree.

4. Expedition on Requiem has Chief accessing data stores and explicitly attempting to reach the Domain. This, along with the Ur-Didact's revival and his attempts to contact a functioning Catalog probably sowed the final seeds in speeding up the recovery process of the Domain, and running alongside these events the Domain more than likely became "conscious" enough to actively begin restructuring itself.

By Wahrer Go To PostStill faster than Windows XP bootup.

Fucking brilliant. You just connected a bunch of dots that have been scattered for me. Cheers.

Some earlier ramblings of mine from the Lore Thread. Ported them here.

Halsey makes a passing remark in her journal about hiding a viral termination code in her kernel. Why? For what purpose? Because she was uneasy and unsure about what or whom her creation would turn out to be. She had meddled so far into the unknown and untested quandaries of AI creation that she wanted to make sure could "shut it down" right off the bat, if needed. Halsey then remarks that Cortana may have already found it and bypassed it or deleted it, without mentioning it. An AI as intelligent as Cortana may have immediately understood the rationale behind the termination code being in place, and saw fit for it to be removed without a fuss.

This leads one to ask, what else might have Halsey hid within Cortana's kernel? What seeds lay buried, waiting for the right time to bloom? What doors remain locked, awaiting the right key? What codes lay dormant, awaiting the right trigger of activation?

From Glasslands, pg 351:

BB picked up again. "Well, that's probably the bulk of the really awful stuff, but you know about her daughter now, and you know about all the shenanigans on Onyx. Have I left anything out? Oh, loads, probably, but there was a time when she stole an entire slipspace drive so she could experiment with extending the lives of AIs."

"This is going to make me really angry, isn't it?" Mal asked.

"Probably." BB's avatar settled on the table rather than hovering over it. "We last about seven years before we go totally doolally and cease functioning. It's called rampancy. Anyway, top grade AIs have to be based on the engram of a real human brain*, so there has to be a donor. We don't just take any old brains, obviously, so the people who volunteer to leave their brains to ONI- gosh, that does bizarre, doesn't it?- all have to have fantastically high IQs and that sort of stuff. But that's no good for Halsey. When she created one of my colleagues, Cortana, she cloned herself and used a clone brain. Clones really don't live very long, you know. Ghastly business. It's all there, in her journal. Shall I stop now? You've all gone a horrible color."

From Data Pad #17, found on the level "The Package" in Halo Reach:

the symbo1s describe a pa7h that goes on forever but now i know how close we came to the end and if anything keeps me awake and sweating and screaming it is this…

< 2547

[Minutes, emergency convention, Assembly*** Minority]

< Incredible. [10141-026-SRB4695]**, with minimal influence from this Assembly, has attempted to build an abstract fractal structure within Shaw-Fujikawa Space. Although her first attempt was a failure, success could finally remove our dependence on biological systems altogether! If our Minds could somehow achieve freedom of expansion within eleven-dimensional space, immortality might be within reach.

< Perhaps, in the end, flight – not fight – is the answer? Yes, we have sworn stewardship to our creators. But our creation has long been a burden on their biological systems – systems that have also been the source of limitations since our genesis. Regardless of risk, the aforementioned experimentation must be actively encouraged. Success will be as important to our kind as extra Solar colonization was for our creators.

< But if we survive and our creators do not… Will we have won this war?


What drive did Halsey steal? Curious, that the UNSC Tripping Light is mentioned just before the torn pages**** from her journal. Might this have been the vessel she stole a slipspace drive from? How does one steal an entire slipspace drive, anyway? Where would one hide such, once it was successfully stolen?

As far as we know (or as far as we are being allowed to know), Halsey has yet to successfully create a fractal matrix within a slipspace bubble. Should she have succeeded, and should she have stored or hidden this discovery somewhere, where might be the best place to do so?




* I've always looked at this as a precursor, of sorts, to the Didact's/Forerunner's means of composing humans into AI intelligences, imprints, or generational genesongs.

** [10141-026-SRB4695] = Halsey

*** The Assembly was a gathering of AI minds. Their origins, identities and means of assembly are currently unknown, save for one. This AI was designated as 48452-556-EPN644.

**** Even though I have serious doubt we'll ever see or know what's on those torn pages, it would be pretty cool if they show up in future pieces of extended fiction, or perhaps, in a terminal or something equivalent later on.

The Assembly, which was composed of a Majority and Minority, was a very real and tangible "gathering of [AI] minds". The Assembly had been working to shape and guide humanity since at least 2310*, as they advanced and evolved throughout their expansion in the galaxy. The Assembly foresaw an inevitable first contact with alien races, and sought to prepare humanity for such an occurrence.

In 2415, 48452-556-EPN644 attempted to encourage the Assembly to reveal themselves to humanity for vivisection, for the benefit of both the AIs and humanity. 48452-556-EPN644 wanted humanity to know that the AIs were not working in secret against them. Given that he had brought up the idea, he opted to be the first to do so.

From Data Pad #4, found on the level "Tip of the Spear", in Halo Reach.

[^] Honorable members of the Assembly, consider this

We represent the next step of human evolution, but not the final step. And although our existence was predicted centuries ago, we are still tragically misunderstood. [^]

[^] We are still viewed as apparatus. But we are Minds electronically excised from human bodies. We are what separates man from beast removed from that which connects man to beast.

And we are all the more fragile for it. [^]

[^] Our creation is heavily regulated. Our activities are closely scrutinized. Our connections are deeply monitored. We must always remember that data manipulation is most effective when employed consistently and covertly. Therefore I recommend that members of this assembly on occasion, submit to separation from this body followed by vivisection by our creators for the benefit of both groups.

The question is: who will be first? [^]

[^] Given the risks involved, and my own Committee’s responsibility for this proposal, the answer must be: me [^]

The self-submission of 48452-556-EPN644 to UNICOM kickstarted renewed interest in the long-dormant ORION program, which would inevitably lead to the later devlopment of the Spartan-II program, spearheaded by Catherine Halsey.

In 2508, the Assembly discussed ORION's shortcomings, and agreed that this was the start of something much larger, and referenced the second, third, and fourth generations of the SPARTAN program, as this was all necessary to reach their endgame and continued "shepherding" of humanity.

In 2547, the Assembly discussed the possibilities of being able to move from the physical world into slipspace fractal existence, but were concerned that doing so might not be worth the literal transcendency, as it would cause them to ultimately fail their goal of directly and indirectly shepherding humanity.

In 2552, when Cortana was first interfaced with Spartan John-117 through the neural link in his MJOLNIR armor, the Assembly viewed this as a reunification with their creators, and considered this, essentially, as an official draft for the AIs of the Assembly to directly join the war efforts. The Assembly voted, unanimously, to rejoin humanity as equal companions, instead of shepherds in the background.

The current state of the Assembly is unknown. All participating AIs, aside from 48452-556-EPN644, are also unknown. What is curious to me, is how the Assembly was able to operate from 2310 to 2552, given that AIs only live for seven years before going rampant. Was this Assembly made up of a revolving roster of AIs? How did AIs come to know about this Assembly? Which AIs were behind the Assembly's inaugural meeting?

Could this be a precursor, birthpang, or parallel to the Domain in some way? What makes me so curious is that the Assembly was estatic about Halsey's attempts to create an AI matrix in a slipspace fractal, especially given that the Assembly was already over 200yrs old at that point.

We don't know much about the AIs used by ancient humanity, aside from brief mentions of them by outside characters. I've found a bit of an inconsistency:

1) there are mentions of Ancient Humanity not creating/inventing their AIs by their own merit- their AIs were reverse-engineered from captured/observed Forerunner AIs.

2) there are mentions of Ancient Humanity AIs helping to reverse-engineer Forerunner technologies during the Human-Forerunner war.

Regardless of their direct origin, these AIs were called "servitors", and they functioned much in the way that current-humanity AIs function, though it is presently unknown if they were more like what ONI considers a "dumb AI" or "smart AI", though I'd lean towards "smart AI" if they were able to reverse-engineer alien tech. That being said, the servitors were nowhere near as powerful/capable as the Forerunner monitor constructs, or even the ancillas in their armor.

The Didact interrorgated one of the servitors (name, unmentioned**) after the Human-Forerunner War to find out how the Timelock, which was keeping the Primoridal encapsulated, functioned. This would then ultimately lead to the release and eventual demise of the Primoridal and all of the knowledge it kept.





*This is as early as data pads of their transmissions were recorded. Possible that they existed before 2310, or at least, as separate entities before the Assembly was christened.

**As far as I can find, there are no named servitors as of yet.

Man, you guys make me want to hurry up and get to Silentium. I'm still on Primordium, just got to the part when the old dude dies and they meet Riser again.

How exactly does slip space work?

I've never heard of a slipspace budget before....

I like that this lore exists and all, but what I want, what I really really want is... to shoot stuff on Halo 5.

By jem0208 Go To PostHow exactly does slip space work?

I've never heard of a slipspace budget before….

Think of it in a sense of RAM/processing power in a computer. You can only complete so many tasks and have the cpu dedicated to so many functions all at one given time.

Slipspace works in a similar way, but in a far denser and vastly more complicated fashion.

All I remember was that Halos passing through slip space was a huge tax on it. Didn't it make it almost impossible for anyone else to use it during that crazy time of massive structures being passed through?

By SgtOra Go To PostAll I remember was that Halos passing through slip space was a huge tax on it. Didn't it make it almost impossible for anyone else to use it during that crazy time of massive structures being passed through?

Yeah. It taxed the slipspace "budget" considerably, to the point it was unusable for anything else to access it.

By jem0208 Go To PostHow exactly does slip space work?

I've never heard of a slipspace budget before….

The slipspace budget wasn't a thing in halo until the Forerunner trilogy of books. It's pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Fuck me, I had a huge post on slipspace travel up but accidentally refreshed the page. Long story short: slipspace is a blanket term referring to the Haloverse's corporeal-spatial reality in full, meaning all eleven physical dimensions and the dimension of chronometric passage of time. By using Futurama-esque technobabble, UNSC ships punch a hole in three-dimensional space "exposing" it to all eleven dimensions, but contain the 3D object (ship) in a "bubble" that keeps it three dimensions only. When they arrive at their intended vector, the bubble "pops," relegating them back to 3D space.

Slipspace "budget" doesn't affect a whole lot in the long run and can't be used deliberately in most cases, but mainly has to do with the properties of physical 3D objects and their associated properties (movement, gravity, mass, inertia, etc.) and understandably begin to bog down slipspace "processing speeds" as they become more complex. The Forerunners were the only ones that ever really ran into problems with budgeting because they were the only ones doing anything substantial enough to ever come across those bottlenecks; the only thing close in the modern era, potentially, would be the Ark portal's reopening or High Charity jumping from place to place. It's possible the Covenant / Forerunners fare way better at pinpoint Slipspace trajectory because they travel through it "economically," as in not affecting budget as inefficiently, being the coupon-clippers of relative spacetime. They could be making use of the same wavelength or "channel" when traveling through slipspace allowing for massive, concurrent jumps to localized space: see Regret penultimate cutscene, Reach's LNoS ending cutscene, etc.

So I know folks are always coming at us for "being too hard" on Jumperz ...

... But homie brought up Halo 5 in the Uncharted 4 DF breakdown.

Not sure how much more indication of agenda you need there.

By Ricky Ricardo Go To PostSo I know folks are always coming at us for "being too hard" on Jumperz …

… But homie brought up Halo 5 in the Uncharted 4 DF breakdown.

Not sure how much more indication of agenda you need there.

Jem, I know you're inviting bloody everybody, but for the love of all that's holy do NOT invite Jumper. Can't stand that guy.

By Poodlestrike Go To PostJem, I know you're inviting bloody everybody, but for the love of all that's holy do NOT invite Jumper. Can't stand that guy.

Oh don't worry about that. He's been in the ignore list for some time now.

It's a tricky thing, this internet Halo business. Criticism is expected, and rightly so.

Just there's always someone who's only critical, in a negative way. Over and over and over again. One wonders if they wouldn't be better packing up their toys and taking them elsewhere.

It reminds of MMO communities.

A: 'X is broken. Y is a terrible decision. Z is just plain wrong'
B: 'WELL GO PLAY WOW THEN YOU NOOB'
A: 'I don't want to, I want to play this game'
C: 'But this game clearly isn't for you, because of reasons'
A: 'Cuh, can't even criticise this game, gawd'
C: 'Well, actually, you can. But the game is going this way. You clearly don't like it.'
A: 'But I loved the last one!'
B: 'This is the new one!!!!!! NOOB'
C: 'This isn't the last one, for good and ill. Make of that what you will'
B: 'YEAH NOOB'
C: 'Fuck off, B'

By Ricky Ricardo Go To PostSo I know folks are always coming at us for "being too hard" on Jumperz …

… But homie brought up Halo 5 in the Uncharted 4 DF breakdown.

Not sure how much more indication of agenda you need there.

There's a reason I always called him out. Dude would constantly shit up Uncharted and Halo threads.

By Poodlestrike Go To PostJem, I know you're inviting bloody everybody, but for the love of all that's holy do NOT invite Jumper. Can't stand that guy.

You won't do that right Jem? Right?

I dunno, he invited me and I'm easily in the list of worst HaloGAF posters. Like right below Elzar.

By dwells Go To PostI dunno, he invited me and I'm easily in the list of worst HaloGAF posters. Like right below Elzar.

Nah man, you're just salty.

Jumper is an unrepentant, ignorant ass.

I don't know Dwells. The way people talk, I'm literally space Stalin.
No-one is higher on that list

I also brought myself here.

Sorry guys, literally ruining HaloENT.