By Mix Go To PostHey, looking through Waypoint and sae that the Fall of Reach Animated Series has it's own page now, complete with high quality concept art/ stills from the series.That first pic looks good. I hope this turns out well.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/halo-channel/halo-the-fall-of-reach
Here are a few that I really liked:
Quick question, how did Dare get out of the drop pod if the door was still sealed shut? Did an engineer help her out and reshut it or something?
Also, just to weigh in, that whole "change for the sake of change" thing is bullshit, different studios have different artistic visions/styles.
Also, just to weigh in, that whole "change for the sake of change" thing is bullshit, different studios have different artistic visions/styles.
By Gnome Scat Go To PostQuick question, how did Dare get out of the drop pod if the door was still sealed shut? Did an engineer help here out and reshut it or something?Spooky plot!
By SgtOra Go To PostWhat's the point in acting callous just because? Drop the online persona already it's tired.
It's like looking in a mirror.
By Wahrer Go To PostIt's like looking in a mirror.
Please elaborate
Some of ya'll need to realize, or remember, that there are living breathing human beings who are working at 343. Personally I would be terrified if I were tasked with making something for a community as toxic as the halo community.
A lot of the crap posting would be remedied if people who aren't just trying to stir up crap would simply stop and think and be respectful before they posted.
Also, what are your guys opinion on 343 having a creative license? As an artist myself I can tell you that it is extremely important to know if you have one or if you don't. Anything in between gets messy.
A lot of the crap posting would be remedied if people who aren't just trying to stir up crap would simply stop and think and be respectful before they posted.
Also, what are your guys opinion on 343 having a creative license? As an artist myself I can tell you that it is extremely important to know if you have one or if you don't. Anything in between gets messy.
By Stinkles Go To Postmight have more to do with it than some dunderheaded thundering clusterclown saying to himself, "IMA CHANGE THIS FOR NO REASON AT ALL EXCEPT TO UPSET RAGNAROK" is not really a good logical train?Based Stinkles. Droppin' the heat from inside that sexy new tank
I'm an admitted lore junkie.. Not just in Halo, but in Mass Effect and Destiny as well, and I'm always looking at the big and small details... Not to lose my mind over things that get changed, but partly I enjoy the stories and partly because I like to see development over the course of a franchise...especially science fiction.
What I can't understand is when people nitpick things like the design of a weapon or a vehicle or a piece of technology in a entirely fictionally progressive universe. Why does it matter that a tank looks different than it did in a game ten years go? Technology advances over time. Designs improve. Fighting covie bastards and fighting humans for many many years leads to things. War machines age. New war machines are built.
Old Scorpion out. Old wraith out. New Scorpion in. New [sexy] Wraith in.
It's cool to not like how something changed or didn't... You're entitled to your opinion entirely... But the constant complaining and assumption pancaking about 343 purposely shitting on their fans is partly what led to HaloGaf getting shuttered because all it does is sew discord and more shitposting.
It's a tank. It shoots stuff. News at 11.
The above post is exactly how I feel about games, I enjoy the dynamic change without sweating art or mechanics choices too much. Sure there are elements I don't like or single out but it hardly ever detracts from my enjoyment of a franchise or game version.
Frankie,
I know you guys are in full blast with H5 but I was wondering if You would want to join in on some of the Throwdowns I plan on hosting. I want to do a sort of countdown to H5 where everyone from HaloENT gets together once a week for some big team customs. Does that sound like something you could attend?
I know you guys are in full blast with H5 but I was wondering if You would want to join in on some of the Throwdowns I plan on hosting. I want to do a sort of countdown to H5 where everyone from HaloENT gets together once a week for some big team customs. Does that sound like something you could attend?
By heckfu Go To PostI show up and see someone invited wesleyshark. Great start, guys!!No one invited him, he found us.
Help
By Mix Go To PostNo one invited him, he found us.
Help
I know you are teasing, but wesley is a nice dude. Glad to have him.
By SgtOra Go To PostAds tailored just for me. I like it.
I blame 343's shameless addition of JO zones to Halo canon
totally teasing. We had a disagreement when he got on the forum a while back, and his opinions are sometimes poop, but he's a swell guy.
I don't see advertisements. I'm using Firefox on mu Samsung Galaxy 3 tab with Wahrer's blue Stylish theme. I wnt to support. Am I mising something?
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Your points ring true as ever Stinkles. It's great having ya around here. I would imagine Rags wasn't necessarily saying you guys are doing what you are doing just to give a big middle finger to the community, but that there doesn't seem to be any discernable reason for why you guys made the change to an already beloved design except for "Because we wanted to".
It's aggrivating to see people dismiss consistency within a universe just because they don't care much about it. That's all well and good if you aren't huge into the artistic aspects of a game. But there are plenty of people who loved those designs and would rather they not be dismissed so easily (or at least that's how it would appear). And visual design is most definitely a big part of the identity of games like Halo.
It's aggrivating to see people dismiss consistency within a universe just because they don't care much about it. That's all well and good if you aren't huge into the artistic aspects of a game. But there are plenty of people who loved those designs and would rather they not be dismissed so easily (or at least that's how it would appear). And visual design is most definitely a big part of the identity of games like Halo.
Ok, think I've managed to fight the tears back into my eyes. Any good Halo 5 tidbits to keep my mind off today's sad events.
ReclaimerHub |OT| is up now!
By -Ryn Go To PostYour points ring true as ever Stinkles. It's great having ya around here. I would imagine Rags wasn't necessarily saying you guys are doing what you are doing just to give a big middle finger to the community, but that there doesn't seem to be any discernable reason for why you guys made the change to an already beloved design except for "Because we wanted to".
It's aggrivating to see people dismiss consistency within a universe just because they don't care much about it. That's all well and good if you aren't huge into the artistic aspects of a game. But there are plenty of people who loved those designs and would rather they not be dismissed so easily (or at least that's how it would appear). And visual design is most definitely a big part of the identity of games like Halo.
Precisely what I was saying. When a player becomes a fan of a game that is primarily about shooting guns and driving vehicles, it looks like the developer is favoring "keeping things fresh through new designs" over giving us a better looking iconic gun/vehicle that we all love and look for when we first launch the game. The designs of weapons and vehicles is a vital aspect of lore in the games that establish them. Deviating from being consistent for no apparent reason (especially when these designs are loved at large) is baffling and it puts a negative thought straight into the minds of players.
Putting a holographic/RDS sight on the BR isn't really as offensive--it's the same basic design with a different attachment. This is consistent with the established lore of previous games.
Changing the rocket launcher to a more streamlined modern rocket launcher design (tan aesthetic too) is very offensive. Even IGN first saw it and talked about it negatively and dismissed it saying that, "Surely 343 wouldn't alter something as iconic as the SPANKER!!" There is virtually no reason for this and it makes it really hard for us fans to come up with a satisfying reason to justify it. The only reason I can muster is that the SPNKR is featured as a legendary weapon.
In the end it technically doesn't matter, but it's jarring to your fan base if it's not swiftly explained in a satisfying way.
By Fahzgoolin Go To PostChanging the rocket launcher to a more streamlined modern rocket launcher design (tan aesthetic too) is very offensive. Even IGN first saw it and talked about it negatively and dismissed it saying that, "Surely 343 wouldn't alter something as iconic as the SPANKER!!" There is virtually no reason for this and it makes it really hard for us fans to come up with a satisfying reason to justify it. The only reason I can muster is that the SPNKR is featured as a legendary weapon.At what point is a developer enslaved to making a game based entirely on fan service? This is their vision. Their visual style and flavor. The SPNKR will still be in there, but they wanted to add something new and seemingly more powerful as well.
In the end it technically doesn't matter, but it's jarring to your fan base if it's not swiftly explained in a satisfying way.
Removing splitscreen is a jarring change for a franchise. A change that they've given their justification for and we'll see how well the game plays come October. Adding a new rocket launcher is not a jarring change. It's an iteration and an addition to the sandbox.
It's got to be exhausting getting railed constantly by people for things your team wants to do with the franchise they're employed to make. You've got the rabid drivebys and then you've got the long term folks who aren't happy if you change the tiniest pixel in something. Can't please everyone, and never will.
"We demand justification and answers" for every little thing that changes between games... C'mon.
It's partly what is quite silly about the whole video game industry...people get upset and upset easily over the arrangement of things on their television. Destiny is a fine example of having one of the most quick-to-implode fanbases. Don't know how Bungie has done it for so long haha. They got shat on by halo fans for years before going into their next IP. Thick skin and patience and a love for their work... That's gotta be their drive. Looking at the slog on the Internet surely isn't.
Why are the Covenant still called "The Covenant"?
I understand from a real world marketing and familiarity perspective it makes sense, however in the lore surely The Covenant has essentially been disbanded right? The killing of the prophets, the destruction of High Charity, the replacement of the Elite Honour Guard and subsequent civil way etc. There's not much of an alliance left.
I understand from a real world marketing and familiarity perspective it makes sense, however in the lore surely The Covenant has essentially been disbanded right? The killing of the prophets, the destruction of High Charity, the replacement of the Elite Honour Guard and subsequent civil way etc. There's not much of an alliance left.
By jem0208 Go To PostWhy are the Covenant still called "The Covenant"?It is like the American soldiers call whatever looks like a rocket an "RPG".
I understand from a real world marketing and familiarity perspective it makes sense, however in the lore surely The Covenant has essentially been disbanded right? The killing of the prophets, the destruction of High Charity, the replacement of the Elite Honour Guard and subsequent civil way etc. There's not much of an alliance left.
By VinFTW Go To PostI played quite a bit of Destiny with ragnarok. He's a big sweetheart and is thinking of buying the $250 edition of halo 5.Can confirm.
Don't let his online persona fool you.
Sorry rag, had to <3
By jem0208 Go To PostWhy are the Covenant still called "The Covenant"?A quick and easy way to refer to the alien races perhaps. The Covenant still exists in smaller ways Jul M'Dama's Storm Covenant and The Sword of Sanghelios, under the Arbiter. There are various races aligned to Jul's sect, and I'd imagine to Arbiter's as well.
I understand from a real world marketing and familiarity perspective it makes sense, however in the lore surely The Covenant has essentially been disbanded right? The killing of the prophets, the destruction of High Charity, the replacement of the Elite Honour Guard and subsequent civil way etc. There's not much of an alliance left.
It's kind of like referring to Humanity as... Humanity. There are different races, but we're all human. Now, of course, we're all homeosapien and the races that make up the covenant are different species altogether... But a general referring principle seems to be what remains. I could be looking at this too deeply though.
The Halo franchise has reached the 65 million sale milestone. That's ridiculous.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-reaches-65-million-units-sold/1100-6428844/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-reaches-65-million-units-sold/1100-6428844/
By Wesleyshark Go To PostThe Halo franchise has reached the 65 million sale milestone. That's ridiculous.Dead franchise.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-reaches-65-million-units-sold/1100-6428844/
By jem0208 Go To PostWhy are the Covenant still called "The Covenant"?Because Jul M'Dama's whole hat is that he thinks (or he wants his followers to think that) the Great Schism was a mistake, that the Great Journey is real, that the Covenant is the way things should be. So, that's what they call themselves: the Covenant.
I understand from a real world marketing and familiarity perspective it makes sense, however in the lore surely The Covenant has essentially been disbanded right? The killing of the prophets, the destruction of High Charity, the replacement of the Elite Honour Guard and subsequent civil way etc. There's not much of an alliance left.
By Poodlestrike Go To PostBecause Jul M'Dama's whole hat is that he thinks (or he wants his followers to think that) the Great Schism was a mistake, that the Great Journey is real, that the Covenant is the way things should be. So, that's what they call themselves: the Covenant.This is both realistic and boring. I wish the series would move on from it already. If the Covenant hangers on have to exist, just put them in the background or something.
By Poodlestrike Go To PostBecause Jul M'Dama's whole hat is that he thinks (or he wants his followers to think that) the Great Schism was a mistake, that the Great Journey is real, that the Covenant is the way things should be. So, that's what they call themselves: the Covenant.Yep. Jul is, outwardly, still very devout. There's some doubt brewing under the surface, but he's almost afraid to admit it or let himself think about it too deeply. His desire for power and control, and his distaste for humanity, keeps him from letting those doubts bloom for now. The Kilo-Five trilogy dug into this a bit. Quite fascinating.
By JayEleven Go To PostThis is both realistic and boring. I wish the series would move on from it already. If the Covenant hangers on have to exist, just put them in the background or something.Based on what's going on in Escalation and what we've seen of Halo 5 it looks like they won't last very much longer (or at least get a new leader).
By Ukumio Go To PostBased on what's going on in Escalation and what we've seen of Halo 5 it looks like they won't last very much longer (or at least get a new leader).I'm waiting for September when the trade #3 releases for Escalation. My patience is so thin... Might crack and read them online early haha.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostI'm waiting for September when the trade #3 releases for Escalation. My patience is so thin… Might crack and read them online early haha.
If this thing had PM i'd message you a site, I buy the collections too, but its way too expensive to buy it comic to comic here in Aus (around $20 where I am) so I have to resort to less then moral ways, but I still buy the collections because I'd pay for the comics if Aus wasn't so marked up.
By Ukumio Go To PostIf this thing had PM i'd message you a site, I buy the collections too, but its way too expensive to buy it comic to comic here in Aus (around $20 where I am) so I have to resort to less then moral ways, but I still buy the collections because I'd pay for the comics if Aus wasn't so marked up.I buy all of my comics in trades. I like the way they look on a shelf, and not having to track down single issues and organize them is nice.
But damn.. That sucks about the markup. I have my own... Ways... Of reading comics before buying the trade haha. I'll continue to wait for Escalation #3 though. I don't really like reading comics on a tablet. :p
By heckfu Go To PostI show up and see someone invited wesleyshark. Great start, guys!!
Stop whining.
By Ukumio Go To PostIf this thing had PM i'd message you a site, I buy the collections too, but its way too expensive to buy it comic to comic here in Aus (around $20 where I am) so I have to resort to less then moral ways, but I still buy the collections because I'd pay for the comics if Aus wasn't so marked up.Not sure about shipping and currency conversions, but have you checked IST out?
http://www.instocktrades.com/search/Halo%20Escalation
42% off on Escalation stuff, and they maintain similar-tier sales pretty much indefinitely. Shit is nuts.
Comixology is another option now that they've finally made peace with Dark Horse.
By Poodlestrike Go To PostNot sure about shipping and currency conversions, but have you checked IST out?I get the trades via my grandparents (they live in USA) but its too annoying to do it month by month, and in this world you can't go on the internet if you're not up to date on everything (spoilers everywhere!)
http://www.instocktrades.com/search/Halo%20Escalation
42% off on Escalation stuff, and they maintain similar-tier sales pretty much indefinitely. Shit is nuts.
Comixology is another option now that they've finally made peace with Dark Horse.
Haven't heard that news about Comixology and Dark Horse though, will look into that (was so pissed when Dark Horse put all their content behind their own walled garden).
By Poodlestrike Go To PostNot sure about shipping and currency conversions, but have you checked IST out?Cheers! I'll keep that in mind. Amazon usually has slashed prices on trades and I have Prime so I get mine from there.
http://www.instocktrades.com/search/Halo%20Escalation
42% off on Escalation stuff, and they maintain similar-tier sales pretty much indefinitely. Shit is nuts.
Comixology is another option now that they've finally made peace with Dark Horse.
What sucks is trade #3 comes out in September, and the final issue isn't out until November so trade #4 won't be out until spring haha. I may crack and read the finale six issues early. :p
By Wesleyshark Go To PostCheers! I'll keep that in mind. Amazon usually has slashed prices on trades and I have Prime so I get mine from there.Another reason IST is great is because they basically treat every book like it's a newborn infant. The box they ship with is like 60% packing peanuts by volume, minimum.
What sucks is trade #3 comes out in September, and the final issue isn't out until November so trade #4 won't be out until spring haha. I may crack and read the finale six issues early. :p
By Poodlestrike Go To PostAnother reason IST is great is because they basically treat every book like it's a newborn infant. The box they ship with is like 60% packing peanuts by volume, minimum.Now that's nice. Amazon ships them in a packing pouch or a flat box if there's more than like 3 or 4 in one shipment. Haven't gotten any damaged ones yet, but the extra care from IST sounds lovely.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostThe Halo franchise has reached the 65 million sale milestone. That's ridiculous.That's awesome well deserved. Halo got me back into gaming after a long hiatus. I hope it's around for a long, long time.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-reaches-65-million-units-sold/1100-6428844/
By Wesleyshark Go To PostA quick and easy way to refer to the alien races perhaps. The Covenant still exists in smaller ways Jul M'Dama's Storm Covenant and The Sword of Sanghelios, under the Arbiter. There are various races aligned to Jul's sect, and I'd imagine to Arbiter's as well.There is no "Storm" Covenant.
By Stinkles Go To PostDid it ever occur to you that increased fidelity, new artists and the holistic evolution that infers, might have more to do with it than some dunderheaded thundering clusterclown saying to himself, "IMA CHANGE THIS FOR NO REASON AT ALL EXCEPT TO UPSET RAGNAROK" is not really a good logical train?I don't think it was necessarily nefarious... stuff changes with increased technology over time.
New assets cost money. You don't have to like them. You don't have to agree with design decisions, or aesthetic choices, or technical directions, but "for the sake of change" is not even a real thing statistically.
But there are some things, like the Jackal, that changed visually completely.
Or the rocket launcher which was probably the most confusing change.
Would be cool if sprint episodes or vidocs or something explained what goes into making those decisions. Stuff like the guns, even MC armor, the changes do sort of make sense (as much as I love the classics) but some changes seem less of a evolution with increased fidelity and more of "lets make something completley different"
I'll also say I'm not a big fan of this insect covenant aesthetic.
By Lord of Admirals Go To PostThere is no "Storm" Covenant.I always refer to them as that haha. Covenant faction. Covenant Remnant. Whatever. :p
By Tawpgun Go To PostBut there are some things, like the Jackal, that changed visually completely.The original Jackals are still there.
The Jackals in Halo 4 and 5 are a subspecies of Kigyar called the Ibie'shan.
The Jackals from Halo 1-3 are a subspecies called the Ruutian.
The Jackals in Halo Reach are a 3rd subspecies known as the T'Vaoan.