By a zoojoo Go To PostGame's ruined, pre-order cancelled.This.
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I honestly think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion, the lack of gametypes suck, but it'll be nice when all the COD kids dip that it won't take 5 minutes to find a game.
Glad to see HtT getting some more love here. I hope they have this as an on and off again series. I don't want it to end. lol
My thoughts on Playlists:
Given that BTB not being in yet was a known quantity, I'm OK with what we got. Breakout in Team Arena makes sense if it's meant to serve as an "HCS" equivalent list. It'll be a playlist where you are ranked on your comprehensive 4v4 skills; I can accept that.
I've already mentioned I'm no personal fan of SWAT and the giant population chunk it absorbs, but if that's the only thing keeping those players on Halo... well I can't really complain, even though I'm disappointed in their life choices. I love Team Objective but I've also seen the objective facts in the stats of Team Objective's population in earlier Halos. Also, they took the launch playlists from the Halo Community feedback surveys which means it's assuredly reddit's fault.
As for legendary/mythics in custom games:
I think this is something we should keep pursuing, though I'm not angry about it. I mean, we've already seen them test the Prophet's Bane on an Arena map, so it's certainly possible. It doesn't seem to be a technical limitation, but a self-imposed one. Maybe they were worried people would think it meant non-cosmetic items in REQ packs WOULD affect Arena? I'm not sure. In any case, it would make sense for Mythic weapons in customs to not be a thing until Forge is released, anyway.
Given that BTB not being in yet was a known quantity, I'm OK with what we got. Breakout in Team Arena makes sense if it's meant to serve as an "HCS" equivalent list. It'll be a playlist where you are ranked on your comprehensive 4v4 skills; I can accept that.
I've already mentioned I'm no personal fan of SWAT and the giant population chunk it absorbs, but if that's the only thing keeping those players on Halo... well I can't really complain, even though I'm disappointed in their life choices. I love Team Objective but I've also seen the objective facts in the stats of Team Objective's population in earlier Halos. Also, they took the launch playlists from the Halo Community feedback surveys which means it's assuredly reddit's fault.
As for legendary/mythics in custom games:
I think this is something we should keep pursuing, though I'm not angry about it. I mean, we've already seen them test the Prophet's Bane on an Arena map, so it's certainly possible. It doesn't seem to be a technical limitation, but a self-imposed one. Maybe they were worried people would think it meant non-cosmetic items in REQ packs WOULD affect Arena? I'm not sure. In any case, it would make sense for Mythic weapons in customs to not be a thing until Forge is released, anyway.
One other thing to consider is the UI for setting up customs/placing weapons in Forge.
If there are, say, 500 weapon variants, stuffing them all into those menus could be a pain in the ass... It'd probably make sense to only have "default" weapons and "Mythic" weapons. Yeah, there's edge cases of people who'd want a variant scope BR in customs, but I would understand if they didn't want to clutter those menus with the entire Warzone weapon list.
They are probably mostly worried about people feeling REQ weapons/Mythics are "devalued" if anyone can just use them in a custom, but I don't think that would end up being the case. I know personally I'd still want them for my Warzone collection.
If there are, say, 500 weapon variants, stuffing them all into those menus could be a pain in the ass... It'd probably make sense to only have "default" weapons and "Mythic" weapons. Yeah, there's edge cases of people who'd want a variant scope BR in customs, but I would understand if they didn't want to clutter those menus with the entire Warzone weapon list.
They are probably mostly worried about people feeling REQ weapons/Mythics are "devalued" if anyone can just use them in a custom, but I don't think that would end up being the case. I know personally I'd still want them for my Warzone collection.
By link1201 Go To PostGlad to see HtT getting some more love here. I hope they have this as an on and off again series. I don't want it to end. lol
It's so damn good. I hope they keep doing new episodes over the next year or two, to keep the lore pushing forward. There's so many excellent new and returning l characters in Halo, and they have great stories to tell. Adds a lot of depth to the haloverse.
I can't believe how good HtT is. It really does set up Halo 5 really well.
Screw MP, let's see Locke cry when he realizes Oni is a pack of douchers.
Screw MP, let's see Locke cry when he realizes Oni is a pack of douchers.
I'm really curious how he's going to react as the house of cards begins to crumble around Osiris. There's a lot of tension and high stakes being setup through all of the EU leading up to h5.
I assume the community playlist voting will be done in-game? Hope it's a visible option and not something hidden or on the Waypoint site.
What if...the unannounced maps aren't Forge variants - but are the BTB maps that aren't ready for MM until after launch? Would that be a good thing? We haven't seen all the maps yet right? I have to admit, I'd be a smidge disappointed if the BTB maps are just dev forged maps. :/
Either way...12 days!
Either way...12 days!
By Mdot Go To PostI assume the community playlist voting will be done in-game? Hope it's a visible option and not something hidden or on the Waypoint site.
I was under the impression it would be voted on through Waypoint. Could be wrong though.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostI was under the impression it would be voted on through Waypoint. Could be wrong though.Not against that at all, but I think an option in-game would be super convenient too.
By Mdot Go To PostNot against that at all, but I think an option in-game would be super convenient too.
Agreed. Definitely more convenient haha.
By thornXBL Go To PostOne other thing to consider is the UI for setting up customs/placing weapons in Forge.Exactly. Not to mention that as they continue to add more variants in REQ, that would also constantly require updates to Forge. I don't think people are thinking about just how much content is in the REQ system and how much of a headache that would be to try and intuitively show all aesthetic REQ items without it being extremely cluttered and constantly changing.
If there are, say, 500 weapon variants, stuffing them all into those menus could be a pain in the ass… It'd probably make sense to only have "default" weapons and "Mythic" weapons. Yeah, there's edge cases of people who'd want a variant scope BR in customs, but I would understand if they didn't want to clutter those menus with the entire Warzone weapon list.
They are probably mostly worried about people feeling REQ weapons/Mythics are "devalued" if anyone can just use them in a custom, but I don't think that would end up being the case. I know personally I'd still want them for my Warzone collection.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostI was under the impression it would be voted on through Waypoint. Could be wrong though.They specifically stated Waypoint and Channel. What isn't clear is what sort of update to either/both will occur at/after launch. I expect a major HC overhaul. The W10 X1 update coupled with a HC update would make using the app much more feasible.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostAgreed. Definitely more convenient haha.Probably would get a better voter turnout too.
By Mdot Go To PostProbably would get a better voter turnout too.
Definitely. I rarely ever go to Waypoint for any reason as it is haha
the games skeletons are coming out of the closet. soon we will be debating if h4 or h5 is worse the way we used to debate if h4 or reach was worse. (ok probably not, at least once forge launches. but the skeletons are coming out and they are spookie. of course of all months they would come out in october. 3spooie5me)
By Cliq Go To PostJust so this is clear. As it stands right now we will never get to have custom games with any of those legendary weapons. Ever.No man, they said they aren't currently available.
10. All those fancy vehicle and weapon variants like the ONI Warthog and Longshot AR, can we use them in Custom Games and Forge?Trust me man, I'd love to give 343 shit over this stuff, but considering ALL warzone weapons are potentially locked behind microtransactions (which is being forced by Microsoft) I'm not surprised that we won't see it at launch. Though anything is possible.
These are not currently usable in Custom Games or Forge, but we may rotate them into matchmaking for Arena as part of the core weapon set for maps in that experience.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostDefinitely. I rarely ever go to Waypoint for any reason as it is hahaExactly. Just makes sense
By Sikamikanico Go To PostWhat if…the unannounced maps aren't Forge variants - but are the BTB maps that aren't ready for MM until after launch? Would that be a good thing? We haven't seen all the maps yet right? I have to admit, I'd be a smidge disappointed if the BTB maps are just dev forged maps. :/
Either way…12 days!
If the BTB maps are Forge Canvas stuff, 343i deserves all kinds of shit.
By Mix Go To PostNo man, they said they aren't currently available.That quote says that they may be put into matchmaking.
Trust me man, I'd love to give 343 shit over this stuff, but considering ALL warzone weapons are potentially locked behind microtransactions (which is being forced by Microsoft) I'm not surprised that we won't see it at launch. Though anything is possible.
Nothing about forge or Custom games.
By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostThat quote says that they may be put into matchmaking.I think he was just pointing out that they specifically stated the variant weapons weren't "currently" planned for Customs/Forge. They give an example of what how they might implement the weapons through Arena, but the "currently" was in reference to Forge and Customs, so it leaves it open for possibly "in the future" changes.
Nothing about forge or Custom games.
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By Wesleyshark Go To PostAgreed. Definitely more convenient haha.
Voting was in the Halo Channel during the beta, wouldn't be surprised if it still is during those Bulletins.
By Sikamikanico Go To PostDependent on embargo stuff, I will try to answer as many questions regarding multiplayer content as I am allowed to when it comes to review time. But as with all things of this nature, there are NDA's and rules to follow. I wholeheartedly suggest you guys subscribe to my site's twitch account soon. Today is a good day. :)I hate you <3
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By Mdot Go To PostI assume the community playlist voting will be done in-game? Hope it's a visible option and not something hidden or on the Waypoint site.They would get a very skewed sample set if they only put it on Waypoint. Then again, casual fans who don't even know Waypoint exists would probably not be upset about the vote going a certain way. The same cannot be said of Waypointers.
By Sikamikanico Go To PostDependent on embargo stuff, I will try to answer as many questions regarding multiplayer content as I am allowed to when it comes to review time. But as with all things of this nature, there are NDA's and rules to follow. I wholeheartedly suggest you guys subscribe to my site's twitch account soon. Today is a good day. :)When does the embargo lift? Tomorrow? Today?!
By ViewtifulJC Go To PostIf the BTB maps are Forge Canvas stuff, 343i deserves all kinds of shit.Yeah, that would be reallllllly disingenuous.
Like you gotta think those "15 free maps" includes BTB maps that normally would be there at launch. So a month or so later they come out they Forge Canvas...oh boy
Especially with Star Wars Battlefront coming out at the same time. "Nah, let me go back to Halo they just got some new homogeneous lookin possibly fan-created 8v8 maps...FOR FREE"
Especially with Star Wars Battlefront coming out at the same time. "Nah, let me go back to Halo they just got some new homogeneous lookin possibly fan-created 8v8 maps...FOR FREE"
No idea on any embargoes yet - when I can share stuff, I'll post.
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I'll of course give you fine folk a heads up when it comes to any streams going live.
Much love!
speaking of reviews wonder when they'll be up. i would guess around the 20th or so going on h4 but could be as late as the 26th i suppose. i know yall with review copies cant talk about that.
they were counted in the 21 at launch after all. and they really seem to be pushing breakout.
By ViewtifulJC Go To PostLike you gotta think those "15 free maps" includes BTB maps that normally would be there at launch. So a month or so later they come out they Forge Canvas…oh boyi bet there gona release more breakout arena forge variants in that 18 and call them new maps
Especially with Star Wars Battlefront coming out at the same time. "Nah, let me go back to Halo they just got some new homogeneous lookin possibly fan-created 8v8 maps…FOR FREE"
they were counted in the 21 at launch after all. and they really seem to be pushing breakout.
6 are Warzone thats confirmed, probably 3-4 Breakout maps. They said almost all the Arena maps gon have remixes, so we got 2 more of those probably. And so 3-4 Forge BTB maps
/worstcasescenario
/worstcasescenario
I got super angry about it all last night...
But honestly Im just happy we spawn with a non crap tier weapon in EVERY game type.
But honestly Im just happy we spawn with a non crap tier weapon in EVERY game type.
Doing the math, I feel like BTB should have atleast 6 maps, but if 6 are already promised to Warzone...
that means 3 maps between Arena (Non Forge), Breakout, Forge made Maps..
idk man, fuck, my hype for this game was at unprecedented levels, and all these details are kinda deflating me a bit, quick, put out some more forge details, STAT!
that means 3 maps between Arena (Non Forge), Breakout, Forge made Maps..
idk man, fuck, my hype for this game was at unprecedented levels, and all these details are kinda deflating me a bit, quick, put out some more forge details, STAT!
By nillapuddin Go To PostDoing the math, I feel like BTB should have atleast 6 maps, but if 6 are already promised to Warzone…
that means 3 maps between Arena (Non Forge), Breakout, Forge made Maps..
idk man, fuck, my hype for this game was at unprecedented levels, and all these details are kinda deflating me a bit, quick, put out some more forge details, STAT!
Forge comes December 35th
Rioting and mass hysteria, yup, less than 2 weeks alright.
Does suck that the legendary weapons like the M6D and Spnkr are locked to Warzone (for the moment)
Hopefully we can get enough community momentum going and have them add it (realistically it'd be added no earlier than spring 2016)
Just hope they don't "magically" become deaf to the community, they seem to be doing ok on that front so far.
Does suck that the legendary weapons like the M6D and Spnkr are locked to Warzone (for the moment)
Hopefully we can get enough community momentum going and have them add it (realistically it'd be added no earlier than spring 2016)
Just hope they don't "magically" become deaf to the community, they seem to be doing ok on that front so far.
By Fahzgoolin Go To PostForge comes December 35thNo, they said they pushed it back to February 32nd, 2019
By Mix Go To PostNo, they said they pushed it back to February 32nd, 2019
But that was last year
They stayed firmly on script last time despite some very loud community complaints. I'm comfortable assuming things will be the same. But the script is already a lot better this time, so there's that at least.
By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostSo a portion of this "free DLC" is stuff that should have launched with the game.At least they aren't charging for it coughDestinycough
Well then.
What I think my sweet spot would have been
Warzone 10
Arena 10
BTB 6
Breakout 6
Forge 3 (1 on each canvas)
thats enough on the topic from me, going to try and put my head down and get back into the hype
with Breakout being entirely created in Forge, I see no reason that they cant add/remove maps indefinitely, disingenuous to count them imo
Warzone 10
Arena 10
BTB 6
Breakout 6
Forge 3 (1 on each canvas)
thats enough on the topic from me, going to try and put my head down and get back into the hype
with Breakout being entirely created in Forge, I see no reason that they cant add/remove maps indefinitely, disingenuous to count them imo
By Wahrer Go To PostI wonder if MM Forge maps will be canon now because of Infinity.
Palmer: "Listen up recruits. Today's simulation is called "Fat Kid"."
By thornXBL Go To PostPalmer: "Listen up recruits. Today's simulation is called "Fat Kid"."343 please. I need this
By thornXBL Go To PostPalmer: "Listen up recruits. Today's simulation is called "Fat Kid"."Funny thing about this that Wahrer and I were spitballing ideas for a name for this map he's working on, and I threw out #420JUSTBLAZEITFAGG00T and I really want Jeff Steitzer to have to say it.
By Mix Go To PostDon't know how I never saw this…DAE THINK HALO 5 LITERALLY WORSE THEN PHANTOM MENACE?
tfw spent too much time on r/ halocirclejerk
I think my ideal map count distribution would have been:
LAUNCH
12-14 Arena (all 4v4s would have remixes and there'd be 2-3 BTB maps at launch, all 2-3 are unique, no remixes)
4-5 Warzone
2 Forge canvases (so Alpine and Breakout)
0-3 forged maps
DLC
6 Warzone
2-4 Forge maps
5 BTB
0-2 midsize (e.g. 6v6)
4 Arena (all unique)
1 or 2 of the DLC maps would be reimaginings / remakes.
LAUNCH
12-14 Arena (all 4v4s would have remixes and there'd be 2-3 BTB maps at launch, all 2-3 are unique, no remixes)
4-5 Warzone
2 Forge canvases (so Alpine and Breakout)
0-3 forged maps
DLC
6 Warzone
2-4 Forge maps
5 BTB
0-2 midsize (e.g. 6v6)
4 Arena (all unique)
1 or 2 of the DLC maps would be reimaginings / remakes.