Halo | Just Dustin Echoes

By derpface123 Go To PostI'm worried that the playlists will rotate in a perfect cycle. That would actually bother me a lot. I need to know if it goes like that or if it is actually random (as it should be).

I do not believe it rotates in a static cycle. I'm guessing that it is randomized when the dedicated server is spun up for the match.

By zoabs Go To PostThere already is a change of pace in the fact that it's elimination and it's smaller map. It's already more tactical than your average game of team slayer.

Breakout takes it away by essentially having a see-first-kill-first gameplay.

The maps really aren't smaller, Longest, Midship, Lockout, and even Battle Creek are smaller maps.

I've rewritten this post several times and i'ts hard to convey what I'm trying to say so i'll keep it short. Breakout needs to be fast, high risk high reward rounds that rewards excellent team play. I don't believe having normal shields would deliver on that.

By xXx_sasuke_xXx Go To Postif its the same canvas map then they should count as one map, thats how the maps have always been counted.

velcomtu reech

Breakout is fine as it is! I will play the Breakout playlist and give it a fair shake to see if it's something I will play alongside my regular scheduled 4v4 Slayer.

Having Breakout in the only playlist with objective gametypes is not.

By Cliq Go To PostThe maps really aren't smaller, Longest, Midship, Lockout, and even Battle Creek are smaller maps.

I've rewritten this post several times and i'ts hard to convey what I'm trying to say so i'll keep it short. Breakout needs to be fast, high risk high reward rounds that rewards excellent team play. I don't believe having normal shields would deliver on that.

There is a good variety in map size in Breaktout, more importantly. Gambol and Altitude are much larger than their counterparts.

Also, yeah Breakout puts more importance on strategy and positioning than purely the ability to shoot. It's enough of a change that I definitely love the change of pace. It's not as simple as "see-first-kill-first." That's SWAT.

I'm fine with it being in the arena playlist at LAUNCH to get people introduced to it who may not know about it and avoid its playlist. That's obviously why its only there in two slots. But, eventually, maybe a month or two later, it should just be in its own playlist, especially when new Arena maps are released.

Also, I think once BTB comes out Warzone should just be in one playlist as well. For now, because its novelty and match length, its fine that it's in two.

So I can't play objective games without being forced to play shitty Breakout? Fucking Christ, 343, how is this always so hard to get right for you guys?

By Cliq Go To PostI agree that Breakout shouldn't be in Team Arena, but I don't agree that Breakout should have normal shields. I think having less shields and faster gameplay mixes up things in a good way. If you want to play slayer, well, there's a slayer playlist. If you want a different type of slayer, play Breakout. Plus, having less shields gives a better opportunity for a 1v2 comeback than normal shields. Think about it. Guy 1 shoots enemy, enemy kills guy 1 but now has low shields, guy 2 has full shields and now kills low shielded enemy.

Yup, this is one of the reasons why I enjoy Breakout, for those comeback moments.

By YourExWife Go To PostSo I can't play objective games without being forced to play shitty Breakout? Fucking Christ, 343, how is this always so hard to get right for you guys?

Ayyy lmfao <3

Team Arena is fine as it is. It matches its description: "Play on the very best modes and maps Halo 5 has to offer."
It is a perfect launch playlist because it gives new players an overview of H5's Arena content. I don't think it's a great long-term playlist, but the people who play at launch and the people who play a few months down the line are different audiences and will be catered to accordingly. We'll get our traditional Halo playlists eventually (I needs my team objective).

I'm actually pretty happy overall with the playlists. I'm even okay with them withholding game-types at launch, because it's a pretty smart way of keeping people coming back, and it seems like they're doing everything they can to retain population so they don't have another Halo 4 situation.

Breakout is super shitty, probably the least fun gametype in Halo history, but I'm happy they trimmed the fat in terms of how playlists go. Like JC said, they'll probably take out Breakout super soon.

But lol at people freaking the fuck out at this news, when has Halo ever had perfect playlists at launch?

By Cliq Go To PostThe maps really aren't smaller, Longest, Midship, Lockout, and even Battle Creek are smaller maps.

I've rewritten this post several times and i'ts hard to convey what I'm trying to say so i'll keep it short. Breakout needs to be fast, high risk high reward rounds that rewards excellent team play. I don't believe having normal shields would deliver on that.

Pretty well said. The increased lethality can be incredibly punishing. If you catch a team napping, you can run through them pretty quickly. However, if you're too aggressive you can get put down really quickly. Trying to guess the routes that they're going to take for a pre-nade and changing your playstyle to counter it is something I enjoy doing.
It's a very fun game mode to play with a whole team :)

By YourExWife Go To PostSo I can't play objective games without being forced to play shitty Breakout? Fucking Christ, 343, how is this always so hard to get right for you guys?

There is always a disappointment! It makes you wonder who dreams up this shit. I was expecting (like everyone else I should imagine) separate breakout and objective playlists. It's like they do it on purpose..

@ a zoojoo. Yes I can understand them want to give the game shots in the arm by adding stuff after launch. But I don't think that not including an objective playlist is the way forward. BTB, forge, free maps and reqs yes. Playlists no. Six playlists at launch and the seventh added with BTB (forge lol) is all the game needs..

Really looking forward to going into breakout with some friends.

Really looking forward to playing the same 6 maps over and over in the slayer playlist until 343 decides to add the missing ones.

I really feel like 6 maps is plenty at the start, but I did play de_mirage, de_inferno and de_cache only for 300 hours in CSGO so there might be something wrong with me.

So many people ass mad about Breakout, Team arena is basically the MLG/HCS playlist, no duh they're gonna put breakout in to test the waters and see if the competitive community picks it up. So for your sakes you better hope they don't like it because if they do, heh, it aint going anywhere anytime soon.

Git gud nubz &lt;3

By derpface123 Go To PostReally looking forward to playing the same 6 maps over and over in the slayer playlist until 343 decides to add the missing ones.

No Empire or Eden is disappointing. Their omission is strange as I thought that they played well in the beta.

Breakout in Team Arena is bizarre to me, but I guess I get the reasoning, and I'll be interested in how the experiment plays out.

What I really don't get is map distribution. Why not just put all maps in all relevant playlists? Are those 3 Warzone Assault maps really totally unsuited for conventional Warzone? Do Empire and Eden really have no home in Team Slayer or FFA? Feels weird. Better to put the maps everywhere and pare out the ones that don't work, IMO.

By Kentish Pikey Go To PostNo Empire or Eden is disappointing. Their omission is strange as I thought that they played well in the beta.

October 30th, 2015

Halo Weekly Update: Set Phasers to New Content

HALO 5: GUARDIANS

"hey guys brav here, we've heard your feedback and we think it's time to fudge up the nexus of your halo spacewaves by adding empire and eden to the slayer playlist! in addition, we are also removing breakout from team arena. why? well, little one, it was all us. in our incomprehensible wisdom we realized we probably shouldn't have something as quirk-mixed and tyranni-cool as breakout in the only list where people can play objective in arena.

and your weekend social playlist as voted by the community this week is: grifball! coming this december.

HALO: THE MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION

"lol"

-Brav

By derpface123 Go To PostHALO: THE MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION

"lol"

-Brav

And this is why I like you derp.

By FUNKNØWN Go To PostQuinn definitely hates Halo fans lol. I guess the "vocal minority" grew to become the majority over the years, unless he's crapping on casual Halo fans in which case wouldn't make sense seeing as how we have SWAT.

It became the majority because Halo 4 killed the series.

Sound the airhorns and "mom get the camera"s, gentlemen.

By derpface123 Go To PostOctober 30th, 2015

Halo Weekly Update: Set Phasers to New Content

HALO 5: GUARDIANS

"hey guys brav here, we've heard your feedback and we think it's time to fudge up the nexus of your halo spacewaves by adding empire and eden to the slayer playlist! in addition, we are also removing breakout from team arena. why? well, little one, it was all us. in our incomprehensible wisdom we realized we probably shouldn't have something as quirk-mixed and tyranni-cool as breakout in the only list where people can play objective in arena.

and your weekend social playlist as voted by the community this week is: grifball! coming this december.

HALO: THE MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION

"lol"

-Brav

Lol fucking quality post right there!!

Playlists seem ok just really not what I was expecting with the way they had talked about it. The missing maps in playlists is the only really baffling thing. As long as their timeline for playlist management is measured in weeks and not months I think this will probably be the best Halo launch yet. It's easy to forget how fucked up Halo 2, 3, and Reach were at launch and people stuck with those games for quite some time.

In other news the mcc patch is out. Mine is now updating

By Kentish Pikey Go To PostThere is always a disappointment! It makes you wonder who dreams up this shit. I was expecting (like everyone else I should imagine) separate breakout and objective playlists. It's like they do it on purpose..

@ a zoojoo. Yes I can understand them want to give the game shots in the arm by adding stuff after launch. But I don't think that not including an objective playlist is the way forward. BTB, forge, free maps and reqs yes. Playlists no. Six playlists at launch and the seventh added with BTB (forge lol) is all the game needs..

Honestly, I like how they're doing it. Objective playlists have never fared well population wise, so having them in the default playlist makes a lot of sense imo. Hopefully when they introduce new gametypes, they'll add them to Team Arena as well.

By derpface123 Go To PostOctober 30th, 2015

Halo Weekly Update: Set Phasers to New Content

HALO 5: GUARDIANS

"hey guys brav here, we've heard your feedback and we think it's time to fudge up the nexus of your halo spacewaves by adding empire and eden to the slayer playlist! in addition, we are also removing breakout from team arena. why? well, little one, it was all us. in our incomprehensible wisdom we realized we probably shouldn't have something as quirk-mixed and tyranni-cool as breakout in the only list where people can play objective in arena.

and your weekend social playlist as voted by the community this week is: grifball! coming this december.

HALO: THE MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION

"lol"

-Brav

KangaRekt.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Fata1moose/video/11962360 :lol ODST hit recognition.

The "tyranny of the majority" means that often the majority vote determines what playlists are available while the lesser vote gets ignored and over powered. You guys are reading too much into that. There isn't an insult in there at all.

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostThe "tyranny of the majority" means that often the majority vote determines what playlists are available while the lesser vote gets ignored and over powered. You guys are reading too much into that. There isn't an insult in there at all.

Maybe it's an American thing, but I thought that was a pretty commonly known turn-of-phrase. It's basically what our political system was built on and you can see how well that's working!

By Fata1moose Go To Posthttp://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Fata1moose/video/11962360 :lol ODST hit recognition.

kept waiting for you to throw a God damn nade hahaha

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostThe "tyranny of the majority" means that often the majority vote determines what playlists are available while the lesser vote gets ignored and over powered. You guys are reading too much into that. There isn't an insult in there at all.

Yeah I didn't pick up on the insult in that either. I think some people are looking to get insulted when they read this stuff.

Halo 5 ctf is so good. I'm sad to see it thinned out among slayer and breakout in a "variety" playlist.

I can see ctf and strongholds being together, but slayer and breakout? Sheesh

I would enjoy a dedicated CTF/Strongholds/whatever other objective modes are in Halo 5.

What do you guys reckon the odds are that we rip open the Custom Games menu on day 1 and the available modes we can choose are only the ones we see here in the playlists? Wouldn't surprise me.

By derpface123 Go To PostI would enjoy a dedicated CTF/Strongholds/whatever other objective modes are in Halo 5.

What do you guys reckon the odds are that we rip open the Custom Games menu on day 1 and the available modes we can choose are only the ones we see here in the playlists? Wouldn't surprise me.

I wouldn't be surprised, per se, but I would be pretty disappointed.

I would also be curious as hell, since I'm reasonably sure there'll be different modes in the first social weekend.

By Kentish Pikey Go To PostIn other news the mcc patch is out. Mine is now updating

Is this the one that adds the quit penalties?

obj needs its own list, end of story for me tbh


if by christmas i can play grifball/ricochet and BTB and have forge, I will get over it.*

*if I have Mk V, if not, then full on riot

By GringoSuave89 Go To Postkept waiting for you to throw a God damn nade hahaha

I need those for the carbine jackals.

By Kentish Pikey Go To PostIn other news the mcc patch is out. Mine is now updating

Any good fixes like the lighting issues in 3 & ODST's campaigns?

By PsychoRaven Go To PostAny good fixes like the lighting issues in 3 &amp; ODST's campaigns?

I don't recall that on the patch list.

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostThe "tyranny of the majority" means that often the majority vote determines what playlists are available while the lesser vote gets ignored and over powered. You guys are reading too much into that. There isn't an insult in there at all.

Quite. Par for the course with gamers, though.

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostThe "tyranny of the majority" means that often the majority vote determines what playlists are available while the lesser vote gets ignored and over powered. You guys are reading too much into that. There isn't an insult in there at all.

Agreed, I don't like the playlists, but getting mad over this comment is a bit petty.

Tyranny of the Majority is the reason we've been plagued with SWAT taking up a playlist for a few titles now. Kappa

By Karl2177 Go To PostIt became the majority because Halo 4 killed the series.

Sound the airhorns and "mom get the camera"s, gentlemen.

I was implying the "vocal minority" to be competitive players, so I'm confused on who you're saying became the majority lol. After Halo 4, wouldn't the competitive players be the first people to jump ship, leaving a majority of slrpers behind?

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostThe "tyranny of the majority" means that often the majority vote determines what playlists are available while the lesser vote gets ignored and over powered. You guys are reading too much into that. There isn't an insult in there at all.

Reading too much into it, perhaps, but in this case the majority is the people who want to see Objective, so are you saying that including one at launch could lead to unintended consequences? If so, then who are they catering to with this launch, people who don't enjoy Objective gametypes?

That may be the case, but don't you think that's a silly way to put it then? He's insulting some group of fans, that's the point. Something they shouldn't be doing because it flames the war between THIS GROUP vs THAT GROUP, etc. But yeah, either way who cares.. Things are destined to be that way regardless lol

By derpface123 Go To PostYeah I didn't pick up on the insult in that either.

You see little derp, this is where you should have ended your post. But then, you feel inclined to say something silly like this:

I think some people are looking to get insulted when they read this stuff.

Such naivety.


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By thornXBL Go To PostTyranny of the Majority is the reason we've been plagued with SWAT taking up a playlist for a few titles now. Kappa

You put the Kappa, but it's the truth lol. So it's ironic that Quinn says that while there's a SWAT playlist on launch.

Tyranny of the majority = little love for Objective, and all the SWAT love in the world

It's not an insult. Just an expression.

Internet has comprehension problems and is overly sensitive. More news to come.

In my experience life goes much more smoothly when you don't try to be offended.

I think it's pretty clear from the playlists we got that the actual majority of Halo players are not interested in playing Objective modes (at least, not exclusively).

Why do you guys keep talking about the "internet being too salty, lacking comprehension, etc." when I'm the only one, aside from Karl, talking about this? Is this just passive aggressive communicating, or are there actually a lot of people bringing up what Quinn said? lol

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By derpface123 Go To PostIn my experience life goes much more smoothly when you don't try to be offended.

Well in my experience, sometimes being offended brings great, much needed change. You'll learn that as you gain more experience too.

man i wonder how TURNT UP they were when they put breakout in team objective. i imagine the stoned conversation went something like this:
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude...
what man?
dude. what if we like...put breakout in the team objective playlist
duuuuude. that is the best idea EVER
yeah man. its so AWESOME
just do it man
yeah man just do it.
yesterday you said tomorrow so JUST DO IT
yeah man we gotta do...the thing. what are we doing again?

By link1201 Go To PostIs this the one that adds the quit penalties?

Yeah, quitting, betraying, and idling. Plus you get penalized if you quit once voting starts so you can't do that exploit if you leave if your map/gametype doesn't get chosen.

And a bunch of other stuff of course.

By FUNKNØWN Go To PostWhy do you guys keep talking about the "internet being too salty, lacking comprehension, etc." when I'm the only one, aside from Karl, talking about this? Is this just passive aggressive communicating, or are there actually a lot of people bringing up what Quinn said? lol

Lol I'm just teasin.

You guys know Breakout is an objective game now, right?

By FUNKNØWN Go To PostWhy do you guys keep talking about the "internet being too salty, lacking comprehension, etc." when I'm the only one, aside from Karl, talking about this? Is this just passive aggressive communicating, or are there actually a lot of people bringing up what Quinn said? lol

EDIT: Well in my experience, sometimes being offended brings great, much needed change. You'll learn that as you gain more experience too.

Yeah, this isn't one of those times. Thanks for the tip though, Sensei.