Halo | Just Dustin Echoes

By nillapuddin Go To Postcliq spittin truth

ggs the other night, I always play against you on those nights

Always good times.

By ViewtifulJC Go To Postoops nevermind here they are

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/13/halo-5-launch-day-matchmaking-playlists-revealed

What a horribly laid out article. Come on IGN.

What did anyone expect from IGN? They are always borderline terrible to flat out terrible.

By RedSparrows Go To PostHave to wonder why KOTH and Oddball etc aren't in there. Presumably they're in the game in customs, but why not in some playlists? Why is Breakout in Team Arena also?

Breakout is in the Team Arena playlist because 343 want to try Breakout as a HCS playlist and Team Arena is basically the HCS playlist.

By nillapuddin Go To PostHALO API SUPPORT COMING TO HALO 5: GUARDIANS

Throughout the development of Halo 5: Guardians, we knew that giving players tools to access game data needed to be a top priority. We’re aware of the power of putting these tools into your hands, and teams from around the studio have been collaborating to make this a reality. Today, we’re excited to announce that Halo 5: Guardians will support a public stats API for developers. The API will allow anyone to take player stats from the game, create new websites and apps, and grow communities around these new experiences.

Here on Halo Waypoint and Halo Channel, we’ll support a fully-featured stats experience for Halo 5, but giving the community the ability to compile stats will allow developers to craft their own statistical story and experiences. The Halo API program is currently in private beta, and we’re working with both professional and community organizations including ESL, MLG, Halo Charts, Halo Tracker, and more so that they can hit the ground running when Halo 5 launches later this month. Additionally, this allows us to ensure public access will be ready to launch around the same time frame that Halo 5 releases.

Halo API will support the follow statistics:

*Service Record (Life-to-date stats for each player)
*Match History (Access to each match played)
*Carnage Report (Complete statistical breakdown for each player in a match)

We know you'll surprise and delight us with inventive and unexpected uses, and we can't wait to see what you develop and share with the Halo community later this year and beyond.

That's fantastic. The community does really great stuff with public api's.

Greetings! Finally arrived here. :)

Community accessible API...

"The Halo API program is currently in private beta, and we’re working with both professional and community organizations including ESL, MLG, Halo Charts, Halo Tracker, and more so that they can hit the ground running when Halo 5 launches later this month."

Oustanding demonstration of community involvement, thank you 343i!

Oh boy. I can't wait for detailed population statistics being used to back up claims that Halo 5 is a failure.

they will never show us population statistics again

ever

I hope Arena in Halo 5 is more successful than it was in Halo:Reach. It will be interesting to see how it goes.

By watership Go To PostGreetings! Finally arrived here. :)

Welcome aboard!!

Quite bummed about the lack of a Team Objective playlist at launch. 😞

By ViewtifulJC Go To Postthey will never show us population statistics again

ever

You could estimate population if the API works like I think it will.

If they are gonna push breakout to HCS, might as well put 4-player campaign coop speedruns in there.

By link1201 Go To PostI hope Arena in Halo 5 is more successful than it was in Halo:Reach. It will be interesting to see how it goes.

I think it stands a better chance by not having that weird divide in ranks/divisions from the other playlists. Like the tiers or whatever are universal now. And if Team Arena is at the top of the playlists, and its settings/maps are the ones played in HCS? That could definitely help.

Gon be funny when HCS has motion tracker tho

By Wesleyshark Go To PostWelcome aboard!!

Thanks! Glad to be here.

Just had to tell my younger brother(who co-ops every Halo game with me since 2001) that this one doesn't have split screen

fun

By ViewtifulJC Go To PostJust had to tell my younger brother(who co-ops every Halo game with me since 2001) that this one doesn't have split screen

fun

Yeah, my brother and I have had the same ritual. This time he would have to bring over his Xbox and TV in order to do "local" co-op. Might have to just settle for party chat this time around.

By Granadier Go To PostYeah, my brother and I have had the same ritual. This time he would have to bring over his Xbox and TV in order to do "local" co-op. Might have to just settle for party chat this time around.

Skype with Webcam, its the next best thing.

By ViewtifulJC Go To PostJust had to tell my younger brother(who co-ops every Halo game with me since 2001) that this one doesn't have split screen

fun

Know the feeling

I know some may think split-screen is a relic and useless, but split-screen was always a big part of Halo to me. My brother has no interest in playing Halo 5 at all now.

By ViewtifulJC Go To Postthey will never show us population statistics again

ever

Yeah. We'll have to see if it is similar to the Reach API. There might be some hidden commands that Reach used, but this one doesn't appear to.

they really should have said that they were counting forge variants in the 21. that was shady imo. and now that casts doubt on the "18 maps post launch". i have a feeling all the btb maps will be forge variants....

Why would they need to clarify that? It's not shady. They're maps either way... I thought it was previously assumed that Forge variants were going to be part of the count. I guess people weren't assuming that lol

By xXx_sasuke_xXx Go To Postthey really should have said that they were counting forge variants in the 21. that was shady imo. and now that casts doubt on the "18 maps post launch". i have a feeling all the btb maps will be forge variants….

Forge maps == maps.

#allmapsmatter

I'm not searching for it in hopes to avoid spoilers, but is there information from any of the early copies out there confirming the gametypes on disc for MP? Hoping we can at least play customs KOTH, Oddball, etc.

By Mdot Go To PostI'm not searching for it in hopes to avoid spoilers, but is there information from any of the early copies out there confirming the gametypes on disc for MP? Hoping we can at least play customs KOTH, Oddball, etc.

Nah the only thing on the disc is a steam bootloader

Word, thanks Rags.

dont you have to download the multiplayer again

I imagine that patch aint up yet

The mp patch isn't out to DL yet.

probably go up with the rest of the game next week

I've now started a ritual of watching the team Osiris intro trailer once at 2pm and once before bed.

Handled my little switch at GS to get Xbox Store credit instead of the pre-order there. Game is now in my queue, waiting for DL.

Pumped .com

I'm about to get all Rag up in here. This is the first time I've been legit pissed at Halo's launch playlist management. Orion and Pegasus in Swat/ffa only? Why not Slayer? Eden and Empire in Team Arena only? Why not Slayer?

And someone here or on GAF told me they heard straight from the horses mouth that forge/breakout maps wouldn't count in the 21 map list, but they do. I can't believe Breakout has near as many maps as Slayer either.

They fixed the IGN format, btw.

Edit: scratch that, I was pissed at Reach launch as well. So few maps.

I'm so torn between the LE and pre-ordering digitally. I want Fall of Reach and I guess the other stuff is neat, but it would be really nice not to have to swap discs as all those other hype holiday games come out. I could leave Fallout 4's disc in the tray, but still go to H5 multiplayer on a whim.
Also, it's $80 vs. $60 since I have the Best Buy loyalty card discount on new games, so cost is less of a deciding factor.
Ugh, decisions

New episode of Hunt the Truth is up: https://soundcloud.com/huntthetruth/s204-jackals

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It's titled Jackals. Are they giving som shite reason why jackals look like aborted godzukis

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostI
It's titled Jackals. Are they giving som shite reason why jackals look like aborted godzukis

wut

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostI
It's titled Jackals. Are they giving som shite reason why jackals look like aborted godzukis

The last episode ended with jackal pirates boarding their vessel

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostYup. Disappointed like I assumed I would be. Breakout doesn't being with standard arena. This is bullocks.

Yup. Putting a playlist with a shorter time to kill in the regular Slayer playlist is a recipe for confusion and frustration ("why do I die so fast all of a sudden?")

Breakout should not be anywhere but its own playlist. You wouldn't mix SWAT and other gamemodes, you shouldn't mix Breakout either.

The biggest bummer for me is not the playlists (though they could certainly use improvement). It's the lack of transparency from 343 that every single Forge map counted in that 21 count.

And that those 6 Warzone maps they promised? Yeah, it's actually 3 Warzone maps and 3 Warzone Assault maps (and it wouldn't surprise me if those Warzone Assault maps were just a chunk of a normal Warzone map segmented off).

Also, can someone please tell me why Team Slayer arbitrarily does not include some of the Arena maps? I guess we're just not playing Slayer on Empire, Eden, Pegasus, or Orion then? Gonna get stale real fast, and Team Slayer is the preferred mode for a lot of people.

So basically what we have here is Team Arena which has pretty much all the maps but not in the Slayer gametype and also Breakout is in there because who the fuck knows, and you have Team Slayer which inexplicably does not have all of the Arena maps.

Disappointing launch playlists and map counts are nothing new for Halo, and it didn't stop me from enjoying Halo Reach or Halo 4 as my main Xbox title, but come on 343. These are some obvious mistakes and it's clear that whatever your playlist department or whatever said is wrong when you've got this much outrage.

If I like anything about the launch playlists, it's that we've got SWAT and FFA in at launch. Always like to see those.

There were like 3 maps in HCS. After they kick out Breakout cuz its unpopular, we'll have 6!

I guess IGN did a bad job because here's Quinn's explanation of the playlists.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/launch-playlist-details

I think I'm the only one that actually likes the godzilla jackal redesign. And I think they still have bird variants.

The forerunner dudes are still weird looking to me.

Surprised that Eden and Empire aren't in Slayer.

Watching people that probably don't play Halo right now rage at Halo news is pretty fun. I like watching dumb people exposing their lack of intelligence and dignity.

By derpface123 Go To PostAnd that those 6 Warzone maps they promised? Yeah, it's actually 3 Warzone maps and 3 Warzone Assault maps (and it wouldn't surprise me if those Warzone Assault maps were just a chunk of a normal Warzone map segmented off).

We've already seen four Warzone maps. Plus you have absolutely no idea if the game-type is hard- or soft-baked for playlist purposes.

That said, it's conceivable the Assault gametypes ARE indeed on segmented Warzone maps, but that'd mean 3 Warzone maps aren't in rotation at the start.

By RedSparrows Go To PostWe've already seen four Warzone maps. Plus you have absolutely no idea if the game-type is hard- or soft-baked for playlist purposes.

Four?

Escape from ARC, Raid on Apex 7, March on Stormbreak... I count 3, and those are the only ones in the Warzone playlist at launch. I see no reason why finished Warzone maps wouldn't be in the Warzone playlist.

By RedSparrows Go To PostWe've already seen four Warzone maps. Plus you have absolutely no idea if the game-type is hard- or soft-baked for playlist purposes.

4? All I know of is Escape from ARC, Raid on Apex 7, and March on Stormbreak.

We've seen footage of big MP shiz (Covie vehicles attacking some 'hogs, iirc) going on on an urban map. Likelihood it's Warzone.

By RedSparrows Go To PostWe've seen footage of big MP shiz (Covie vehicles attacking some 'hogs, iirc) going on on an urban map. Likelihood it's Warzone.

That's not really evidence but ok.

Not enough to conclusively say 'four Warzone maps', I grant you, but given likelihoods, it's 'evidence': We've seen and heard nothing of BTB maps yet, thus footage of MP that features numerous vehicles is most likely Warzone at this point.

So there are no other Arena maps that we haven't seen, which is kind of disappointing, there are only two asymmetrical maps (The Rig, Plaza) and Fathom, The Rig and Plaza don't have remixes.

By Lord of Admirals Go To PostI guess IGN did a bad job because here's Quinn's explanation of the playlists.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/launch-playlist-details

"Now, as much as we’re taking input from community very seriously, we also realize the tyranny of the majority can lead to unintended consequences"

Good,

That is important this way we wont have Breakout forced into a second playlist that no one wants it in, especially when it already has it's own playlist. With no Breakout in 'Team Arena' everyone wins no one loses.

Better yet, things like KOTH, Oddball, Ricochet, Regicide, Race, Assault, Territories, VIP, Headhunter, Stockpile, Grifball and many, MANY others will be in at launch because the majority wont negatively affect the minority

/s

But seriously though, why would ANYONE, ANYWHERE, EVER, think that putting Breakout in 'Team Arena' makes a modicum of sense.