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Welp, I guess no Oddball or classic Assault. Strongholds is close to Territories I guess.

Yup. Disappointed like I assumed I would be. Breakout doesn't being with standard arena. This is bullocks.

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SWAT as a launch default? Yessss.

Looks like a good launch list.

Based 343.

By Ukumio Go To PostEDIT: Is anyone else slightly disappointed they counted the Forge maps (Orion & Pegasus) and Breakout maps in the total map count shipping with the game, sort of feel cheated.

I'm a little confused as to where they got that total from. Here's everything we know so far:

Warzone 6 Maps
- Escape from A.R.C.
- Raid on Apex 7
- March on Stormbreak
- Dispatch
- Array
- Summit

Breakout (5 Presets)
- Gambol
- Trident
- Trench
- Crossfire
- Altitude

Slayer 8 Maps
- Coliseum
- Plaza
- The Rig
- Truth
- Regret
- Fathom
- Eden
- Empire

Forge 4 Maps (2 Presets)
- Alpine (Orion, Pegasus)
- Glacier
- Space
- Breakout

Provided this includes everything, that gives us 18 maps (Forge, Slayer & Warzone) and 7 presets at launch, for a total of 25 possible maps. If you eliminate the 4 canvses, that gives you 21, which I'm assuming is where they got that map total from.

If you eliminate presets and canvases, that brings us down to 14 maps - 6 Warzone, and 8 Arena. However, if the presets truly don't count, it would mean that we still have a handful of Arena maps that have yet to be unveiled - and with Eden / Empire, Truth / Regret being the only remix pairs we know of, it's possible Coliseum, Plaza, The Rig and/or Fathom may still have remixes yet to be revealed.

So there is a slayer gametype that isn't ranked? I thought all TS would be ranked :/

By link1201 Go To PostI had it in my head it was missing at launch for Halo 4.

Pretty sure swat wasn't in at launch for Halo 4. Might be a shitty memory tho lol

What wahrer said

By Wahrer Go To PostIf you eliminate presets and canvases, that brings us down to 14 maps - 6 Warzone, and 8 Arena. However, if the presets truly don't count, it would mean that we still have a handful of Arena maps that have yet to be unveiled - and with Eden / Empire, Truth / Regret being the only remix pairs we know of, it's possible Coliseum, Plaza, The Rig and/or Fathom may still have remixes yet to be revealed.

I would imagine at this point they would have said there are more maps to be revealed if there were. I think it's a decent amount; it's the lack of gametypes that is bothering me.

A lot of the "missing" gametypes will be in rotation looks like.

By ViewtifulJC Go To PostIs there really a Trident Slayer? Isn't that a Breakout map?

It is Breakout; it must be a typo.

Can't believe there are two SWAT lists. I was hoping Breakout would permanently replace it, and instead we have TWO...

By thornXBL Go To PostIt is Breakout; it must be a typo.

Can't believe there are two SWAT lists. I was hoping Breakout would permanently replace it, and instead we have TWO…

Lol so weird... I can't even wrap my head around it. Such a buzzare choice.

Bleh

I don't feel like ranting right now, so I'll just say that I'm extremely disappointed in that launch list. Also I'm disappointed that it seems like Breakout map variants and forge map variants are counting towards the "21+ maps!!!" total.

From Stinkles at Gaf:

There's something amiss with the way IGN formatted their list- there aren't two SWAT lists, for example. We're reaching out to get it updated.

Smh

By ViewtifulJC Go To PostThe formatting on this is really a mess.

Content: Breakout | Gambol Breakout | Trident Slayer | Coliseum Slayer | Eden Slayer | Plaza Slayer | Empire Slayer | The Rig CTF | Coliseum CTF | Truth CTF | Fathom Strongholds | The Rig Strongholds | Eden Strongholds | Empire

Like what's up with the random map name at the end of every one?

Is there really a Trident Slayer? Isn't that a Breakout map? Whats with the random Gametype at the beginning?

You're reading it the wrong way, it goes: Gamemode | Map.

I'm fairly certain that "X on Place" is the Warzone name for Summit, Array, or Dispatch. It wouldn't make sense with their naming conventions if they were separate maps.

By thornXBL Go To PostIt is Breakout; it must be a typo.

Can't believe there are two SWAT lists. I was hoping Breakout would permanently replace it, and instead we have TWO…

Stinkles just said on GAF that there aren't two SWAT lists.

Who the fuck submitted/formating this thing

I count:
9 forge maps
6 arena maps + 2 arena remixes
4 warzone maps

21 total maps

what the hell man...


fuck

By ViewtifulJC Go To PostStinkles just said on GAF that there aren't two SWAT lists.

Who the fuck submitted/formating this thing

Now I'm really confused

how hard is this

Warzone - Every Map
(Invasion) - Every Map
4v4 Slayer - Every Map
4v4 OBJ - Every Map
FFA - Every Map
Breakout - Every Map
SWAT - Every Map
Social - Randoms

Why the heck are there limitations on the Warzone playlists, why CTF in arena, Why 3 Plot in arena, why, why, why, why

By Wahrer Go To PostIf you eliminate presets and canvases, that brings us down to 14 maps - 6 Warzone, and 8 Arena. However, if the presets truly don't count, it would mean that we still have a handful of Arena maps that have yet to be unveiled - and with Eden / Empire, Truth / Regret being the only remix pairs we know of, it's possible Coliseum, Plaza, The Rig and/or Fathom may still have remixes yet to be revealed.

I remember asking someone at 343 about remixes kinda recently and they hinted that more arena maps were gettings remixes. I'll try to look for it.

They will probably just stick them in the free DLC, though.

I don't like the idea of remixes. There is no appeal. It makes the lists of maps feel unnecessarily "samey."

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostI don't like the idea of remixes. There is no appeal. It makes the lists of maps feel unnecessarily "samey."

True, but it lets them boast about how many maps they have.

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostI don't like the idea of remixes. There is no appeal. It makes the lists of maps feel unnecessarily "samey."

Of course I'd want all new maps across the board, but I'd rather have remixes than launch forge maps counting towards the total.

Launch Forge Maps that apparently aren't in half the launch playlists

wow they counted all those forge maps toward the 21. arnt all the breakout arena's just forge variants of one map?

By xXx_sasuke_xXx Go To Postwow they counted all those forge maps toward the 21. arnt all the breakout arena's just forge variants of one map?

Lol yup.

>.<

I don't necessarily mind different maps in different playlists, but how hard is it to have a separate Team Slayer and Team Objective? Trying to play objective gametypes in anything other than its dedicated playlist is about as fun as slamming your hand in a door on a cold day for fun.

So only 10 real maps (not counting remixes) and Breakout on Team Arena? 6 Maps is enough Arena maps for the launch IMO (if they are good maps), but still disappointing.

Breakout in Team Arena must be a mistake. It makes no sense.

Have to wonder why KOTH and Oddball etc aren't in there. Presumably they're in the game in customs, but why not in some playlists? Why is Breakout in Team Arena also?

Seems peculiar.

As for map count, it's pretty much what I expected. 'Remix' elides some big differences in some cases: Truth / Regret, for instance. Eden / Empire not so much.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/halo-api-support-coming-to-halo-5-guardians">HALO API SUPPORT COMING TO HALO 5: GUARDIANS

Throughout the development of Halo 5: Guardians, we knew that giving players tools to access game data needed to be a top priority. We’re aware of the power of putting these tools into your hands, and teams from around the studio have been collaborating to make this a reality. Today, we’re excited to announce that Halo 5: Guardians will support a public stats API for developers. The API will allow anyone to take player stats from the game, create new websites and apps, and grow communities around these new experiences.

Here on Halo Waypoint and Halo Channel, we’ll support a fully-featured stats experience for Halo 5, but giving the community the ability to compile stats will allow developers to craft their own statistical story and experiences. The Halo API program is currently in private beta, and we’re working with both professional and community organizations including ESL, MLG, Halo Charts, Halo Tracker, and more so that they can hit the ground running when Halo 5 launches later this month. Additionally, this allows us to ensure public access will be ready to launch around the same time frame that Halo 5 releases.

Halo API will support the follow statistics:

*Service Record (Life-to-date stats for each player)
*Match History (Access to each match played)
*Carnage Report (Complete statistical breakdown for each player in a match)

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Here is Josh's quote about remix maps. Guess it doesn't really hint more at launch.


http://bestgameever.co.uk/2015/09/29/halo-5-guardians-chatting-with-josh-holmes-from-343/

Forge maps and breakout map variants it is.....

Halobuff hype!

By belushy Go To PostHere is Josh's quote about remix maps. Guess it doesn't really hint more at launch.


http://bestgameever.co.uk/2015/09/29/halo-5-guardians-chatting-with-josh-holmes-from-343/

Forge maps and breakout map variants it is…..

Well at least they decided on not-charging us for map remixes and Forge Maps as post-release DLC

thanks 343i

If all the gametypes are available for customs then fine. I can deal with another launch of skeleton crew style playlists.

But wow. Forge pallettes shouldn't count towards overall map count. Thats like Halo Reach map inflation.

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostIf all the gametypes are available for customs then fine. I can deal with another launch of skeleton crew style playlists.

But wow. Forge pallettes shouldn't count towards overall map count. Thats like Halo Reach map inflation.

Yeah, it's borderline dishonesty.

By RedSparrows Go To PostHave to wonder why KOTH and Oddball etc aren't in there. Presumably they're in the game in customs, but why not in some playlists? Why is Breakout in Team Arena also?

Do we know if they're in there, though? I haven't seen anything mentioned yet.

Also, what is Warzone Assault? Just regular Assault but with the Warzone mechanics?

It seems silly to say "most if not all arena maps have remixes" and then launch half of the arena maps without them. If some of the freeLC maps are remixes of launch maps, I can already imagine the salt.

By Fahzgoolin Go To PostYeah, it's borderline dishonesty.

Careful don't wanna call the almighty 343 liars.

Also lol on Ryan 9.8 McCaffrey doing the Halo 5 coverage.

If there isn't a "343i out-343'd 343" quote, then what's the point?

By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostCareful don't wanna call the almighty 343 liars.

Also lol on Ryan 9.8 McCaffrey doing the Halo 5 coverage.

God damn. Hahahahaha.

Day one Playlists:

Warzone
Warzone on Escape from A.R.C
Warzone on Raid on Apex 7
Warzone on March on Stormbreak

Warzone Assault
Warzone Assault on Dispatch
Warzone Assault on Array
Warzone Assault on Summit

Team Arena
Breakout on Gambol
Breakout on Trident
Slayer on Coliseum
Slayer on Eden
Slayer on Plaza
Slayer on Empire
Slayer on The Rig
Capture the Flag on Coliseum
Capture the Flag on Truth
Capture the Flag on Fathom
Strongholds on The Rig
Strongholds on Eden
Strongholds on Empire

Team Slayer
Slayer on Coliseum
Slayer on Plaza
Slayer on The Rig
Slayer on Truth
Slayer on Regret
Slayer on Fathom

Breakout
Breakout on Gambol
Breakout on Altitude
Breakout on Trench
Breakout on Trident
Breakout on Crossfire

Free-For-All/Rumble Pit
Slayer on Eden
Slayer on Regret
Slayer on The Rig
Slayer on Plaza
Slayer on Orion
Slayer on Pegasus

Team SWAT
Team SWAT on Eden
Team SWAT on Regret
Team SWAT on The Rig
Team SWAT on Plaza
Team SWAT on Orion
Team SWAT on Pegasus
SWAT Magnums on Eden
SWAT Magnums on Regret
SWAT Magnums on The Rig
SWAT Magnums on Plaza
SWAT Magnums on Orion
SWAT Magnums on Pegasus

Warzone
Warzone on Escape from A.R.C
Warzone on Raid on Apex 7
Warzone on March on Stormbreak

Warzone Assault
Warzone Assault on Dispatch
Warzone Assault on Array
Warzone Assault on Summit

Team Objective
Capture the Flag on Coliseum
Capture the Flag on Truth
Capture the Flag on Fathom
Strongholds on The Rig
Strongholds on Eden
Strongholds on Empire

Team Slayer
Slayer on Coliseum
Slayer on Plaza
Slayer on The Rig
Slayer on Truth
Slayer on Regret
Slayer on Fathom

Breakout
Breakout on Gambol
Breakout on Altitude
Breakout on Trench
Breakout on Trident
Breakout on Crossfire

Free-For-All/Rumble Pit
Slayer on Eden
Slayer on Regret
Slayer on The Rig
Slayer on Plaza
Slayer on Orion
Slayer on Pegasus

Team SWAT
Team SWAT on Eden
Team SWAT on Regret
Team SWAT on The Rig
Team SWAT on Plaza
Team SWAT on Orion
Team SWAT on Pegasus
SWAT Magnums on Eden
SWAT Magnums on Regret
SWAT Magnums on The Rig
SWAT Magnums on Plaza
SWAT Magnums on Orion
SWAT Magnums on Pegasus

Why didn't they just do it this way? We don't need slayer in 5 of the 7 playlists.

I reject gametypes like SWAT and Breakout on principle. If I wanted to not have to work for kills I'd be playing some other shooter.

So excited regardless. Feeling like a kid again.

Just remember to play campaign before MP. People like to shout spoilers into the mics around launch time.

Happened to me when Halo 3 launched: "Sargent Johnson dies!!!"

By Cliq Go To Post/snip/
Why didn't they just do it this way? We don't need slayer in 5 of the 7 playlists.

Because it would have been too easy, intuitive, logical, good for playlist population, and disappointed the fewest people while satisfying too many people.

cliq spittin truth

ggs the other night, I always play against you on those nights

Well jesus that article is pretty much the worst possible outcome 343 could have hoped for for this announcement. Most of it doesn't make any logical sense, so I would hope it's almost completely incorrect.

Cliq wins.