By FollowTheWind Go To PostI stopped playing after a month from release, but never once did I see a user with a boltshot destroy my team. Nor did I find it that easy to use due to how small the shot radius is.
When your sample size is 1 month you aren't in a position to disagree. I played the game well into 2013.
Nobody "destroys teams" with the boltshot, it's not about that. It's about how players who get put in a corner can just whip it out and kill the guy who deserved to kill them just because they have a shotgun in their pocket. It's a free kill weapon in Halo 4. A short range energy sword without lunge and takes a second to charge.
fuck off with defending the boltshot.
gun was trash to spawn with, get real.
If it was an actual map pickup it would have been fine.
gun was trash to spawn with, get real.
If it was an actual map pickup it would have been fine.
By daedalius Go To Postfuck off with defending the boltshot.
gun was trash to spawn with, get real.
If it was an actual map pickup it would have been fine.
Which is my point, why did they feel the need to change it completely, just have it a pick up.
By FollowTheWind Go To PostI stopped playing after a month from release, but never once did I see a user with a boltshot destroy my team. Nor did I find it that easy to use due to how small the shot radius is.Are you insane? Even after 343 "nerfed" it, it's range is ridiculous. And it's literally one of the easiest guns in the world to use.
http://xboxclips.com/YourExWife+ohhh/d86b31f4-af8b-4dc8-aa41-516b4886ac25
#Hardtouse #Smallshotradius #boltshot #destroyteam #nerfed
By YourExWife Go To PostAre you insane? Even after 343 "nerfed" it, it's range is ridiculous. And it's literally one of the easiest guns in the world to use.
http://xboxclips.com/YourExWife+ohhh/d86b31f4-af8b-4dc8-aa41-516b4886ac25
#Hardtouse #Smallshotradius #boltshot #destroyteam #nerfed
wow this was in MCC? This is... not what I remembered
By YourExWife Go To PostAre you insane? Even after 343 "nerfed" it, it's range is ridiculous. And it's literally one of the easiest guns in the world to use.
http://xboxclips.com/YourExWife+ohhh/d86b31f4-af8b-4dc8-aa41-516b4886ac25
#Hardtouse #Smallshotradius #boltshot #destroyteam #nerfed
OMG THAT GUN IS SO HARD TO USE
Next thing we're gonna be told the H4 Fuel Rod is hard to use. Or the H4 Beam Rifle. Or the H4 SAW. Come to think of it, H4 has a lot of easy-to-use guns. But the boltshot was the only power weapon you could spawn with.
Fuck, even the human sniper is super easy as long as you're the passenger in a hog.
Fuck, even the human sniper is super easy as long as you're the passenger in a hog.
By FollowTheWind Go To Postlmao calm it down, talked about the bolt shot didn't kick your dog. Can post a montage of Ninja with a sniper and can write exactly what you said.Are you actually suggesting the two situations are even remotely similar?
By daedalius Go To PostOMG THAT GUN IS SO HARD TO USE
lmao calm it down, talked about the bolt shot didn't kick your dog. Can post a montage of Ninja with a sniper and can write exactly what you said.
I saw people using active camo while ducking around corners with the boltshot a lot. Those matches were boring. Most matches in Halo 4 were boring.
By daedalius Go To Postlol what?
You literally make no sense. Comparing the boltshot and sniper is… I don't even.
What and sniper is some sort of crazy difficult weapon to use in Halo 4?
By FollowTheWind Go To PostWhat and sniper is some sort of crazy difficult weapon to use in Halo 4?Considering you somehow think the boltshot is difficult, I would imagine the snipe is a weapon only for ultra l337 pro-gamers.
While you guys are arguing about the Boltshot, I'm celebrating the four day reverse anniversary of the Checkspectations level 4 event.
By daedalius Go To PostA lot more difficult than a boltshot, lol
Well considering I find it easier to do good with a sniper than with a Boltshot (although I dont tend to go for it so no practice with the boltshot), then no it's not that much more difficult.
Do you somehow believe that a player who is bad with a sniper will be good with a boltshot?
By Stinkles Go To PostWhile you guys are arguing about the Boltshot, I'm celebrating the four day reverse anniversary of the Checkspectations level 4 event.Stop teasing us old man!
By FollowTheWind Go To PostWell considering I find it easier to do good with a sniper than with a Boltshot (although I dont tend to go for it so no practice with the boltshot), then no it's not that much more difficult.
Do you somehow believe that a player who is bad with a sniper will be good with a boltshot?
1) You don't have to "go for it". It's a loadout weapon. OF DOOOOOOM!
2) Yes, they will be good with a boltshot. Because EVERYONE is good with it. At least the sniper you have to sort of aim. And if you miss the head, you have to at least shoot two shots. Boltshot doesn't even need to be aimed directly at the body.
On second thought, if someone finds walking towards another player while looking at them (not the ground or the sky) and releasing a button to be difficult, I doubt their snipe abilities are much better.
Like literally worst-case with boltshot is that you strip their shields and make them one-shot.
By YourExWife Go To PostStop teasing us old man!
1) You don't have to "go for it". It's a loadout weapon. OF DOOOOOOM!
2) Yes, they will be good with a boltshot. Because EVERYONE is good with it. At least the sniper you have to sort of aim. And if you miss the head, you have to at least shoot two shots. Boltshot doesn't even need to be aimed directly at the body.
On second thought, if someone finds walking towards another player while looking at them (not the ground or the sky) and releasing a button to be difficult, I doubt their snipe abilities are much better.
Like literally worst-case with boltshot is that you strip their shields and make them one-shot.
But boltshot is so easily countered. it's really just a matter of creating some distance. I cannot possibly understand how you can say the sniper is in a whole different league of difficulty, when I've seen players (myself included) do more with a sniper than with a boltshot. Why are you trying to make it seem like I am arguing for it to be a spawn weapon. Is an EMP charge + melee somehow more skilful?
I genuinely believe the boltshot has burned down your house or something, just to give you guys nightmares:
By Stinkles Go To PostWhile you guys are arguing about the Boltshot, I'm celebrating the four day reverse anniversary of the Checkspectations level 4 event.Dammit, I start work on Monday :(
By FollowTheWind Go To PostBut boltshot is so easily countered. it's really just a matter of creating some distance. I cannot possibly understand how you can say the sniper is in a whole different league of difficulty, when I've seen players (myself included) do more with a sniper than with a boltshot. Why are you trying to make it seem like I am arguing for it to be a spawn weapon. Is an EMP charge + melee somehow more skilful?
I genuinely believe the boltshot has burned down your house or something, just to give you guys nightmares:
Dude, stop. I am, no joke, probably the worst player here, and even I can pick up easy kills with the boltshot. It has no business as a loadout weapon, and frankly is obnoxiously good even for a power weapon.
By Poodlestrike Go To PostDammit, I start work on Monday :(
Dude, stop. I am, no joke, probably the worst player here, and even I can pick up easy kills with the boltshot. It has no business as a loadout weapon, and frankly is obnoxiously good even for a power weapon.
ok but can someone actually answer what I said as to why its a bad idea as a map weapon?
By Stinkles Go To PostWhile you guys are arguing about the Boltshot, I'm celebrating the four day reverse anniversary of the Checkspectations level 4 event.FRANKIE.
WHY DO YOU TEASE US SO.
In other news, Infection has been added to the MCC matchmaking and is a total blast.
By FollowTheWind Go To PostBut boltshot is so easily countered. it's really just a matter of creating some distance. I cannot possibly understand how you can say the sniper is in a whole different league of difficulty, when I've seen players (myself included) do more with a sniper than with a boltshot. Why are you trying to make it seem like I am arguing for it to be a spawn weapon. Is an EMP charge + melee somehow more skilful?
I'm really really really trying not to insult you here. Do you think people using the boltshot are running at you from across the map with their boltshot out trying to kill you? Are these the quality of folks you regularly encounter (or at least encountered until you stopped playing)? Never mind the fact that you often won't see the boltshot until it's too late because people can do this really difficult and crazy strat where they crouch literally anywhere on the map.
I never said you supported it as a spawn weapon. This whole "you gotta be kiddin' me" exchange is based on your comments about Halo 4, not Halo 5.
I dare say someone who has actually played the game and used the weapon under discussion (and is no doubt more proficient with that sniper you keep bringing up for some reason) is more qualified to make a judgment regarding its usability. Even if you only played h4 the first week, something like 1/3 deaths would have been from boltshots (assuming you played anything other than BTB). Everyone figured out that balance issue real fast.
By FollowTheWind Go To Postok but can someone actually answer what I said as to why its a bad idea as a map weapon?
Trying to strawman the argument. Again. Nice. Again, no one has issues with that, which you would know had you read people's responses. We're all just sitting here with our mouths agape at your H4 commentary.
By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostIf you are just doing the campaigns on legendary for the completion achievement, put on the scarab gun skull. It negates the par time and score but not the completion achievement.Oh really? I thought it's other wise, you get special objectives achievements but no completion, par time and score.
But then you're not getting the true legendary experience of halo 2! /s
Fuck, i should have used the scarab skull myself; that campaign is infuriating on legendary
Fuck, i should have used the scarab skull myself; that campaign is infuriating on legendary
By YourExWife Go To PostI'm really really really trying not to insult you here. Do you think people using the boltshot are running at you from across the map with their boltshot out trying to kill you? Are these the quality of folks you regularly encounter (or at least encountered until you stopped playing)? Never mind the fact that you often won't see the boltshot until it's too late because people can do this really difficult and crazy strat where they crouch literally anywhere on the map.
I never said you supported it as a spawn weapon. This whole "you gotta be kiddin' me" exchange is based on your comments about Halo 4, not Halo 5.
I dare say someone who has actually played the game and used the weapon under discussion (and is no doubt more proficient with that sniper you keep bringing up for some reason) is more qualified to make a judgment regarding its usability. Even if you only played h4 the first week, something like 1/3 deaths would have been from boltshots (assuming you played anything other than BTB). Everyone figured out that balance issue real fast.
Trying to strawman the argument. Again. Nice. Again, no one has issues with that, which you would know had you read people's responses. We're all just sitting here with our mouths agape at your H4 commentary.
Alright man fair enough, my experience with Halo 4 for the first few weeks never really involved massive issues with the boltshot so everything I was saying was from my experience. I guess because of its level 34 level cap I didn't really see much of it.
Also don't get your last point, my first comment regarding the BS was about how it would have been fine as a pick up weapon.
By J-Twelve Go To PostYou can switch from the driver's seat directly to the turret in a Warthog. That's very cool.And a great addition to the vehicle sandbox.
Yea, everyone agrees it would be fine as a pickup weapon.
Maybe you missed all of our posts in that regard.
Maybe you missed all of our posts in that regard.
By FollowTheWind Go To PostAlright man fair enough, my experience with Halo 4 for the first few weeks never really involved massive issues with the boltshot so everything I was saying was from my experience. I guess because of its level 34 level cap I didn't really see much of it.
Also don't get your last point, my first comment regarding the BS was about how it would have been fine as a pick up weapon.
Don't see what a level has to do with loadout weapons.
By daedalius Go To PostYea, everyone agrees it would be fine as a pickup weapon.
Maybe you missed all of our posts in that regard.
*WHOOSH*
By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostFollow went full Ragnarok. You never go full ragnarooListen to the master, kid.
By daedalius Go To PostYea, everyone agrees it would be fine as a pickup weapon.
Maybe you missed all of our posts in that regard.
Except my first post was a direct reply to "The problem though was that you could spawn with it." where I was arguing it would be better as an on map weapon. Then you decided to escalate the hostility for whatever reason (Boltshot kicked your dog, burned your house, fucked your wife idk).
By FollowTheWind Go To PostExcept my first post was a direct reply to "The problem though was that you could spawn with it." where I was arguing it would be better as an on map weapon. Then you decided to escalate the hostility for whatever reason (Boltshot kicked your dog, burned your house, fucked your wife idk).Dude, don't try to rewrite history so soon. Strawman-ing and deflecting the discussion to make yourself some sort of "forum victim" is dumb. The posts are there for people to see. We were and always have been objecting to your assessment of the weapon's ease-of-use in H4. Complaining about hostility because you don't have a coherent argument or response is childish.
Everyone agreed it would be fine as a map weapon. Everyone also agrees that you're out of your mind if you think it's difficult to use.
By daedalius Go To PostYea but you said the boltshot was hard to use. Then the hilarity ensued.
It's almost like difficulty is relative
By FollowTheWind Go To PostIt's almost like difficulty is relativeSo are delusions.
By Wesleyshark Go To PostHalo.Halo 2 U 2
By Wesleyshark Go To PostNo. And never again!Edit: Halo (Hello) 2 (to) U (you) 2 (also).
Edit #2: ;-;
By CRIMSONxSERAPH Go To PostHalo 2 U 2No. And never again!
By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostAnd a great addition to the vehicle sandbox.I agree can't wait to try it out.
Hmmm I wonder what we'll see in 4 days. Expectations unchecked!
By Stinkles Go To PostWhile you guys are arguing about the Boltshot, I'm celebrating the four day reverse anniversary of the Checkspectations level 4 event.Sometimes I see Frankie just sitting back all like
I think the difficulty of the NPCs is going to surprise some people. Trying to take on a boss enemy by yourself looks like a recipe for disaster.
By FATstronaut Go To PostI love the Boltshot. Its so bad.Can't stop laughing at this. I can't believe I thought that movie was
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By Captain Friendo Go To PostHave to say, such a piece of cake on legendary. Probably the easiest campaign along with Reach maybe.I wouldn't call it a piece of cake but it's definitely the easiest.
By Ragnarok Flames Go To PostIf you are just doing the campaigns on legendary for the completion achievement, put on the scarab gun skull. It negates the par time and score but not the completion achievement.
Seriously?
I'm quite tempted to do that, fuck Gravemind on legendary.
By derpface123 Go To PostJem doesn't like the new bolt shot… well I don't like dying to a mini shotgun sidearm. It's a burst fire pistol now, seems unique enough to me
As others have said the problem with the boltshot was that you could spawn with it.
I think it could work well as an on map pickup in H5. That audio cue of it charging up would allow good players to thrust out of the way and punish the boltshot user.
The H5 version just looks boring. A burst fire pistol with tracking might as well be a single shot, if one bullet hits the other is almost guaranteed to as well. The tracking aspect also means it's not going to be a headshot weapon and so any skill the weapon may have required gets thrown out the window.
By Stinkles Go To PostWhile you guys are arguing about the Boltshot, I'm celebrating the four day reverse anniversary of the Checkspectations level 4 event.
With the way you're hyping it, sounds like it is more than a level 4.
So, I'm officially hyped.
By J-Twelve Go To PostYou can switch from the driver's seat directly to the turret in a Warthog. That's very cool.Legit?!
By Wesleyshark Go To PostNo. And never again!But we all know you want this album that was forced upon you.
By jem Go To PostI wouldn't call it a piece of cake but it's definitely the easiest.*cough* AR *cough*
Seriously?
I'm quite tempted to do that, fuck Gravemind on legendary.
As others have said the problem with the boltshot was that you could spawn with it.
I think it could work well as an on map pickup in H5. That audio cue of it charging up would allow good players to thrust out of the way and punish the boltshot user.
The H5 version just looks boring. A burst fire pistol with tracking might as well be a single shot, if one bullet hits the other is almost guaranteed to as well. The tracking aspect also means it's not going to be a headshot weapon and so any skill the weapon may have required gets thrown out the window.