Halo | Just Dustin Echoes

By CRIMSONxSERAPH Go To PostSo here's some brain teasingWhat past Halo maps do you think would benefit from the new Spartan abilities?From any of the Halo MP maps.

anything with a lot of verticality.

This is why I tend to just shut up on GAF and keep it light. It used to be a lot like this place. You could go and speak your mind and debate shit. Chat in your little communities. Now everything gets locked by modbot just because someone doesn't like the thread or discussion. Then you get banned if you have a different opinion on things such as SJWs, etc. They've become an echo chamber. Not to mention the hypocrisy there. Take this recent Halo leak. They don't allow scans of magazines for example but they'll gladly allow leaked videos of games etc. If you're not going to allow one then why the other? Oh and god forbid you have something bad to say about a developer or for example in this case Kotaku. That's a ban now. Forget the fact that if a poster made a thread like that article they'd be banned.

Then oh rumors we can't have that unless it's a GAF approved site. We can't even discuss it unless it's from IGN, Kotaku, etc because well it's a tales from my ass and locked. Last but not least you had better not try to call them out on this shit either cause that's a ban. Hell I wouldn't be surprised to see myself banned for this post over here by a mod who gets butt hurt by it over there.

Sorry for ranting. Just needed to let it out.

By CRIMSONxSERAPH Go To PostSo here's some brain teasingWhat past Halo maps do you think would benefit from the new Spartan abilities?Halo: Combat EvolvedBoarding ActionChiron TL-34DamnationPrisonerRat RaceHalo 2ColossusHeadlongIvory TowerTurfHalo 3AssemblyCitadelFoundryGhost TownLongshoreSandboxThe PitHalo: ReachAnchor 9BoardwalkBoneyardCountdownSword BaseUncagedHalo 4None

Fucking none of them. /salt

But really sword base and ivory tower and turf and Chill out.

Edited original post to include maps I think could work (with some slight tweaking), though I know this is simply daydreaming, it's fun to think about.

By Trey Go To Postanything with a lot of verticality.

I completely agree. Maps typically thought of as favorites in the Halo MP map list more often than not don't have enough verticality to work properly. It'd give some love to the lesser-known/lesser-cared-for maps.

Oooo ivory tower would be potentially fun with thrusts and clambers. Replace the waterworks with a salt basin and it'll appeal to Rags. ;)

I'd like to see Sword Base again. That was a great map.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostOooo ivory tower would be potentially fun with thrusts and clambers. Replace the waterworks with a salt basin and it'll appeal to Rags. ;)I'd like to see Sword Base again. That was a great map.

I really liked Sword Base, but then again, it reminded me somewhat of Boarding Action, which was a crazy time in HCE.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostOooo ivory tower would be potentially fun with thrusts and clambers. Replace the waterworks with a salt basin and it'll appeal to Rags. ;)I'd like to see Sword Base again. That was a great map.

All the salt I can eat. Also on the devs thing psycho posted. I personally don't put devs on a pedestal, which is why I think devs should suck it up when people complain about their games and be forthcoming with information instead of looking at the persons post history or in the case of Epic or MS: completely ignoring issues. Or giving half ass apologies (MCC)

By CRIMSONxSERAPH Go To PostSo here's some brain teasingWhat past Halo maps do you think would benefit from the new Spartan abilities?

Some Halo Reach maps like well... all of the invasion maps could definitely benefit. You would need to give them a bit of a twist but there was a good amount of verticality at times.

Really any mao with some decent verticality could so with it. I'll have to make a list later.

By PsychoRaven Go To PostThis is why I tend to just shut up on GAF and keep it light. It used to be a lot like this place. You could go and speak your mind and debate shit. Chat in your little communities. Now everything gets locked by modbot just because someone doesn't like the thread or discussion. Then you get banned if you have a different opinion on things such as SJWs, etc. They've become an echo chamber. Not to mention the hypocrisy there. Take this recent Halo leak. They don't allow scans of magazines for example but they'll gladly allow leaked videos of games etc. If you're not going to allow one then why the other? Oh and god forbid you have something bad to say about a developer or for example in this case Kotaku. That's a ban now. Forget the fact that if a poster made a thread like that article they'd be banned. Then oh rumors we can't have that unless it's a GAF approved site. We can't even discuss it unless it's from IGN, Kotaku, etc because well it's a tales from my ass and locked. Last but not least you had better not try to call them out on this shit either cause that's a ban. Hell I wouldn't be surprised to see myself banned for this post over here by a mod who gets butt hurt by it over there.Sorry for ranting. Just needed to let it out.

Better out than in I always say. What you said isn't wrong. It sucks seeing a place you used to love hanging in become so walled off. Insular even... insulaaaar.

I just don't get how a place made for intelligent discussion and an exchange of opinions can turn into something so ban happy for differing opinions and (constructive) criticism of the site itself.

Hey look someone's bringing up Destiny in a halo thread again...ban me!

Regardless of how you feel about the game, Bungie has literally 180'd on so many things at the demand/request/endless petitions of their fan base. Destiny today is ridiculously different than it was at launch, and for the most part, for the better.

Man, juniors on gaf LOVE to shit on Halo. The amount of shit posts in that kotaku thread from juniors I find astonishing.

Wes, I agree about destiny, although it could still be better. Thankfully though, it looks like TTK is going to do that.

By daedalius Go To PostMan, juniors on gaf LOVE to shit on Halo. The amount of shit posts in that kotaku thread from juniors I find astonishing.Wes, I agree about destiny, although it could still be better. Thankfully though, it looks like TTK is going to do that.

It's mind blowing what is allowed to be posted in those threads that goes unchecked on a regular basis. All it takes is a few juniors or a couple salty members to derail a thread and nothing gets done about it.

Oh destiny certainly isn't perfect but they've certainly had some massive improvements since launch. TTK looks to be right where the game needs to be, as a base for new and healthier growth.

By ABADGUY Go To PostWOW! They actually banned you for that shit? Seriously? Funny how protective of that site they are now.

And people can shit on Polygon and ask why isn't that site banned but when someone does the same with Kotaku, whoa settle down buddy!

As annoyed as I got from the salt sometimes in Halogaf, it is literally nowhere near as bad as gaming side can be.

Well, I might have an incentive to by a Halo 5 XB1...

Voice chat doesn't seem to work at all on my console, and it's not a controller/headset issue.

By daedalius Go To PostAs annoyed as I got from the salt sometimes in Halogaf, it is literally nowhere near as bad as gaming side can be.

I think Poodle said it very well.

HaloENT has lots of informed negativity, Gaming side is full of uninformed negativity. The former is far more palatable.

By jem0208 Go To PostI think Poodle said it very well. HaloENT has lots of informed negativity, Gaming side is full of uninformed negativity. The former is far more palatable.

Yep. In reality, even though I still don't enjoy or agree with all the negativity, most of those who tend to lend more salt here I think it's safe to say are still Halo fans (whether of lore, gameplay, or a combination). I really do think they want the best for Halo, even if they don't always have the most positive of things to say about it.

Compare that to other sites I've been on where most all salt-throwers actually want Halo daed.

Live long or frequently respawn, HaloENT.

I had a really great time with Halo 5 at Gamescom yesterday. I wasn't able to queue up for Warzone as the line was insane, but still it was good to see Halo being popular like that. I did however get to play a lot of Arena over at the more secluded 343 booth. Sadly, I didn't get to play on Fathom but I did play on the 'new' Empire.

It felt a lot smoother and crisper than the beta, that's for sure. The plasma launcher is essentially my new love and the shotgun works great with the new spartan abilities. Going 33-0 when some of the ESL staff were tagging along earned me some sweet loot.

I also got a customized 3D-printed Spartan model, so I am really glad I went.

By jem0208 Go To PostI think Poodle said it very well. HaloENT has lots of informed negativity, Gaming side is full of uninformed negativity. The former is far more palatable.

Nothing wrong with Halo salt with informed opinions or reasons. Drive-bys plague every Halo thread endlessly. Even the Halo Lore thread gets it on occasion with posters who drop in just to say that something sucked or was stupid, then leave. I was actually in the process of writing a response for the HLT in regards to having to rehash the same arguments every month or two, but I decided it wasn't worth it. Can't stop the randoms. Then I got banned for something not even related to the reason for being banned lol, so it's moot anyway. 😎

By Gravemind IV Go To PostI had a really great time with Halo 5 at Gamescom yesterday. I wasn't able to queue up for Warzone as the line was insane, but still it was good to see Halo being popular like that. I did however get to play a lot of Arena over at the more secluded 343 booth. Sadly, I didn't get to play on Fathom but I did play on the 'new' Empire.It felt a lot smoother and crisper than the beta, that's for sure. The plasma launcher is essentially my new love and the shotgun works great with the new spartan abilities. Going 33-0 when some of the ESL staff were tagging along earned me some sweet loot. I also got a customized 3D-printed Spartan model, so I am really glad I went.

Post pics! I wanna see the model!

Good to hear that the Caster has some value, but it made a pretty dismal showing at the Invitational, and not just 'cause it wasn't picked up very often. Curious to see what could be changed about it to make it fit better into high-level play.

Plasma caster looks amazing. Part torque bow part grenade launcher sounds incredible.

By Poodlestrike Go To PostPost pics! I wanna see the model!Good to hear that the Caster has some value, but it made a pretty dismal showing at the Invitational, and not just 'cause it wasn't picked up very often. Curious to see what could be changed about it to make it fit better into high-level play.

I'll definitely post some pictures once I get it, it's going to have to be shipped after all and that's probably going to take some time. Red Helioskrill while holding the BR, gamertag engraved on the stand. I was actually surprised that I was the first to buy one, they looked really good.
Exactly like this one: https://twitter.com/BUK57/status/630004959606669312 - But in red and stuff. Shame I couldn't pick the visor color or that they didn't have steel. But this looks great too!

Yeah, I heard it didn't fare so well during the invitational. Personally though? Loved it, I didn't use the primary that much but I really stuck with the charge up version. It's like a love child between a torque bow and a flak cannon/grenade launcher. I was sticking people left and right and it was a monster at flushing out people from the middle room as well as the rooms at the sides of the map. Just fire a charged one and its fragments will do a ton of work, then fire in a few more for good measure.

Plasma launcher has alot of utility, surprised we didn't see much use of it especially on empire with the pro teams favoring the shotgun tower so much.

By Gravemind IV Go To PostI'll definitely post some pictures once I get it, it's going to have to be shipped after all and that's probably going to take some time. Red Helioskrill while holding the BR, gamertag engraved on the stand. I was actually surprised that I was the first to buy one, they looked really good. Exactly like this one: https://twitter.com/BUK57/status/630004959606669312 - But in red and stuff. Shame I couldn't pick the visor color or that they didn't have steel. But this looks great too! Yeah, I heard it didn't fare so well during the invitational. Personally though? Loved it, I didn't use the primary that much but I really stuck with the charge up version. It's like a love child between a torque bow and a flak cannon/grenade launcher. I was sticking people left and right and it was a monster at flushing out people from the middle room as well as the rooms at the sides of the map. Just fire a charged one and its fragments will do a ton of work, then fire in a few more for good measure.

DAMN that's cool.

By Invert Go To PostPlasma launcher has alot of utility, surprised we didn't see much use of it especially on empire with the pro teams favoring the shotgun tower so much.

You would think that it'd be good for flushing people out of there, yeah.

What's the verdict on Halo Reach here? It's probably my most played Halo game since its release coincided with a time in my life where I had tons of time to play games. I LOVED the detailed spartan customization, upgraded forge, good selection of playlists, and map design. To me, Powerhouse is THE Halo Reach arena map. So many good memories popping people with the DMR on that map. People complained about armor abilities and armor lock but I never understood that... it just added an extra element to the Halo formula and while it may not have been necessary, it was fun to jetpack around the place and blow up Scorpions with armor lock and nonsense like that. BTB in Reach was great fun, Boneyard and the Forge World version of Blood Gulch were maps I enjoyed.

As for campaign, I think it's probably Bungie's best. Well paced, good character development, nice and very cinematic cutscenes, and a good variety of environments. The space battle mission was cool too, though I would have liked to see it emerge as a special playlist in matchmaking; that would have been awesome. Halo 3 would be pretty close to Reach in terms of campaign but that god awful Cortana level towards Halo 3's end just disqualifies it from being the best.

By derpface123 Go To PostWhat's the verdict on Halo Reach here? It's probably my most played Halo game since its release coincided with a time in my life where I had tons of time to play games. I LOVED the detailed spartan customization, upgraded forge, good selection of playlists, and map design. To me, Powerhouse is THE Halo Reach arena map. So many good memories popping people with the DMR on that map. People complained about armor abilities and armor lock but I never understood that… it just added an extra element to the Halo formula and while it may not have been necessary, it was fun to jetpack around the place and blow up Scorpions with armor lock and nonsense like that. BTB in Reach was great fun, Boneyard and the Forge World version of Blood Gulch were maps I enjoyed.As for campaign, I think it's probably Bungie's best. Well paced, good character development, nice and very cinematic cutscenes, and a good variety of environments. The space battle mission was cool too, though I would have liked to see it emerge as a special playlist in matchmaking; that would have been awesome. Halo 3 would be pretty close to Reach in terms of campaign but that god awful Cortana level towards Halo 3's end just disqualifies it from being the best.

I missed reach :( didn't have an Xbox at the time since I had just moved to Japan. I played a little bit when I bought CEA but the player pop by then was so low the lag was unbearable.

My one issue with Reach is the contradictions with Fall of Reach, but I'm mostly over that at this point. Multi never really grabbed me 'cause of Armorlock and associated BS. The Campaign was pretty good, overall. Highlights probably include the entire space mission (including the beach assault), and the thing with the whole pile of warthogs.

By daedalius Go To PostAlso Gringo doesn't like how male Titans look. I don't know how to respond to this. I am guessing he really doesn't like how Space Marines look then.

I like the space marine look, I just don't think Destiny does it well. Female titans look rad, all armored up and lean. I regret my male titan to this day.

By derpface123 Go To PostWhat's the verdict on Halo Reach here?

Worst Halo thus far, just behind Halo 3.

By Poodlestrike Go To PostMy one issue with Reach is the contradictions with Fall of Reach, but I'm mostly over that at this point. Multi never really grabbed me 'cause of Armorlock and associated BS. The Campaign was pretty good, overall. Highlights probably include the entire space mission (including the beach assault), and the thing with the whole pile of warthogs.

I liked playing Reach but I hated how they fucked up the lore on such a massive shoehorning scale. It's been mostly ironed out now, and the new animated film will focus on the novel, so it's not a big deal anymore haha. Overall, the game was fun, but it's just above Halo 3 for me, and Halo 3 is at the bottom of all the Halos.

By Lord of Admirals Go To PostWorst Halo thus far, just behind Halo 3.

lmao

By derpface123 Go To PostWhat's the verdict on Halo Reach here? It's probably my most played Halo game since its release coincided with a time in my life where I had tons of time to play games. I LOVED the detailed spartan customization, upgraded forge, good selection of playlists, and map design. To me, Powerhouse is THE Halo Reach arena map. So many good memories popping people with the DMR on that map. People complained about armor abilities and armor lock but I never understood that… it just added an extra element to the Halo formula and while it may not have been necessary, it was fun to jetpack around the place and blow up Scorpions with armor lock and nonsense like that. BTB in Reach was great fun, Boneyard and the Forge World version of Blood Gulch were maps I enjoyed.As for campaign, I think it's probably Bungie's best. Well paced, good character development, nice and very cinematic cutscenes, and a good variety of environments. The space battle mission was cool too, though I would have liked to see it emerge as a special playlist in matchmaking; that would have been awesome. Halo 3 would be pretty close to Reach in terms of campaign but that god awful Cortana level towards Halo 3's end just disqualifies it from being the best.

Halo Reach wasn't awful. The singleplayer was damn fun. People get salty over retcons in it but hell it is Bungie's universe. They have every right too. It isn't like they turned Chief into a pink Flamingo or something. Multiplayer wise I was kind of neutral for the most part. I hated armor abilities though. Map flow was destroyed thanks to jetpack and armor lock was buillshit and ruined the fun of sticking someone with a grenade because they could just armor lock and pop them off. Maps I also feel were hurt due to having to be designed around both Multiplayer and singleplayer.

But overall I did like the multiplayer. Still it's on the lower end of my list next to Halo 4. Armor abilities just hurt both of those games a ton.

By Wahrer Go To Postlmao

My opinion ain't popular, but it sure as hell has logical reasoning and evidence behind it.

Opinions aside, Halo 2's got to be one of the worst entries (if not the worst) purely due to how unfinished it was. I mean granted, it wasn't fundamentally broken the way some games are on release nowadays, but there was clearly a ton missing from it - Halo 3 might as well have been Halo 2 fully realized.

By Lord of Admirals Go To PostMy opinion ain't popular, but it sure as hell has logical reasoning and evidence behind it.

Fuck with previously established lore, fuck with my liking of your video game haha.

By Wahrer Go To PostOpinions aside, Halo 2's got to be one of the worst entries (if not the worst) purely due to how unfinished it was. I mean granted, it wasn't fundamentally broken the way some games are on release nowadays, but there was clearly a ton missing from it - Halo 3 might as well have been Halo 2 fully realized.

I'll take Halo 2 over Halo 3 any day.

By derpface123 Go To PostWhat's the verdict on Halo Reach here?

It's my least favorite Halo. Wasn't a fan of the cliche characters, messes with the lore, and armor lock. I wish Halo Reach was a prequel or origin story for Chief. I think it would have been great for Bungie to dig into the Spartan II program because they never really did with the games. Also, we could have been introduced to Blue Team and it wouldn't be such a shock for some people to see them for the first time in Halo 5.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostI'll take Halo 2 over Halo 3 any day.

Agree 100%

By NoLongerALurker Go To PostIt's my least favorite Halo. Wasn't a fan of the cliche characters, messes with the lore, and armor lock. I wish Halo Reach was a prequel or origin story for Chief. I think it would have been great for Bungie to dig into the Spartan II program because they never really did with the games. Also, we could have been introduced to Blue Team and it wouldn't be such a shock for some people to see them for the first time in Halo 5.

It was so aggravating. Instead of telling the story of Blue Team, they decided to give us a bunch of cardboard Spartan III's who should have never been on Reach in the first place. I mean, it's halo, I'll always be down for Halo, but... It was a lot to stomach for a while. I ended up rereading Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx after playing the campaign to see if I had been wrong about the Spartan III's being a secret operation outside of Halsey's knowledge... But nope. Retcon. And one of many that were completely unnecessary.

My friends and I always knew Reach was far from traditional Halo, but I think as soon as we accepted it for the type of game it was trying to be, we had a blast.

By derpface123 Go To PostMy friends and I always knew Reach was far from traditional Halo, but I think as soon as we accepted it for the type of game it was trying to be, we had a blast.

Yeah I definitely had fun playing it once I turned on my lore-ignore lol. Looking back on it now, and after having played some 1700hrs of Destiny, it all makes sense. Reach was a primer for where they were headed, basically.

By GringoSuave89 Go To PostI like the space marine look, I just don't think Destiny does it well. Female titans look rad, all armored up and lean. I regret my male titan to this day.

I hope there is more armor variety to be sure.

My VOG set looks awesome. Crota set looks meh to bad (helmet). Set from PoE is also meh.

Heck some of the blue and green sets look better than the very few we have available.

I do think the TTK titan set of the guy rolling with the fire hammer looks pretty badass though.


I like the Reach campaign for the most part. Multi was kind of a clusterfuck, and unplayable before they put in 85% bloom, which I still think wasn't enough (I'm telling you, 100% bloom was designed for fighting against elites!)

After the TU, it was ok, better than 3 to be sure, but I definitely liked 4 much more after the turbo update.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostIt was so aggravating. Instead of telling the story of Blue Team, they decided to give us a bunch of cardboard Spartan III's who should have never been on Reach in the first place. I mean, it's halo, I'll always be down for Halo, but… It was a lot to stomach for a while. I ended up rereading Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx after playing the campaign to see if I had been wrong about the Spartan III's being a secret operation outside of Halsey's knowledge… But nope. Retcon. And one of many that were completely unnecessary.

*meanwhile I never found any issues with the revelation of SPECWARCOM Spartan-III fireteams stationed on Reach and elsewhere*

Hell, unlike the main story, they actually provided supplementary lore to make it make sense.

The male characters in Destiny just look plain awful. I rolled one once... Deleted him before level 10. I have all female Guardians because the armor just looks massively better IMHO. Entirely subjective here, though!

By Wesleyshark Go To PostThe male characters in Destiny just look plain awful. I rolled one once… Deleted him before level 10. I have all female Guardians because the armor just looks massively better IMHO. Entirely subjective here, though!

WRONG

TITANS ARE BEST

By Lord of Admirals Go To Post*meanwhile I never found any issues with the revelation of SPECWARCOM Spartan-III fireteams stationed on Reach and elsewhere*Hell, unlike the main story, they actually provided supplementary lore to make it make sense.

Yeah they definitely ironed out things since then, and it works for the most part. I just still consider the main-game story itself as more of a "what if?" alt-tale.

By daedalius Go To PostWRONGTITANS ARE BEST

I HAVE A TITAN. SHE IS AWESOME.

BUT MY TWO FEMALE LOCKS ARE BETTER. :)

My friend is gonna lend me his XB1 copy of Destiny so I can play it for a bit. How long does it take to reach the vanilla (no DLC) level cap? How many hours will I be playing through the singleplayer before I complete it all and have to start replaying missions? What's the easiest beginner class?

More importantly, should I even bother right now, or should I just wait until September and pick up the Destiny TTK edition that includes all of the DLC and will allegedly offer a less RNG fueled experience?

By Wesleyshark Go To PostYeah they definitely ironed out things since then, and it works for the most part. I just still consider the main-game story itself as more of a "what if?" alt-tale.

>TFW Reach's story is so bad that just like ME3 fans came up with a theory to explain it away as non-canon.

It's too late for that, though. The story's legitimacy is corroborated by Halo: Fleet Battles. Hopefully we'll get more info on how it all fits together. Bungie actually brought in Eric Nylund to help work Reach's story into the overarching story. Of course, Bungie thought it'd be cool to not share any of the connecting fibers with us.

Based 343i did though.

Reach is the lowest of the low purely because of AL.

By Wesleyshark Go To PostIt was so aggravating. Instead of telling the story of Blue Team, they decided to give us a bunch of cardboard Spartan III's who should have never been on Reach in the first place. I mean, it's halo, I'll always be down for Halo, but… It was a lot to stomach for a while. I ended up rereading Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx after playing the campaign to see if I had been wrong about the Spartan III's being a secret operation outside of Halsey's knowledge… But nope. Retcon. And one of many that were completely unnecessary.

I just finished playing Halo 1-4 with a buddy and it was his first time playing through all of them. He's hooked now and wants to learn so much more about the Spartan II program. I wish I could tell him to just go play Reach instead of read the novels or look up wikis. Also, had Reach been an origin story for Chief, it would have given 343 a reason to put it into MCC...

By derpface123 Go To PostMy friend is gonna lend me his XB1 copy of Destiny so I can play it for a bit. How long does it take to reach the vanilla (no DLC) level cap? How many hours will I be playing through the singleplayer before I complete it all and have to start replaying missions? What's the easiest beginner class? More importantly, should I even bother right now, or should I just wait until September and pick up the Destiny TTK edition that includes all of the DLC and will allegedly offer a less RNG fueled experience?

since so much is being tweaked, adjusted, and added to, even in the base game, i'd just wait for the taken king.

By derpface123 Go To PostMy friend is gonna lend me his XB1 copy of Destiny so I can play it for a bit. How long does it take to reach the vanilla (no DLC) level cap? How many hours will I be playing through the singleplayer before I complete it all and have to start replaying missions? What's the easiest beginner class? More importantly, should I even bother right now, or should I just wait until September and pick up the Destiny TTK edition that includes all of the DLC and will allegedly offer a less RNG fueled experience?

To beat the main story, with high level help, about 6-8hrs or so? The DLC adds another 4-6hrs or so. The two raids... You can't really quantify the times there.

Subjectvie here, but Warlock is the easiest think. It's more or less a wizard class. And they can self rez upon death.

I'd say you could get about 25-30hrs out of the game before you'd start to begin repeating things on thst particular character, based off my experience the first time.

Thst all being said... Wait for TTK. It's going to be an entirely different game, from new stuff to old. They're changing a lot of stuff.