Yeah. Sometimes it just feels good to play games with out everyone shitting on each other.
Even if you lose you don't mind it so much.
Even if you lose you don't mind it so much.
i wonder if we get the Russian baddies on EU west because the actual good russian players shame them on their home turf?
n1 hitch. Just had a game where our pudge moaned at me constantly despite his willingness to completely fuck up team fights and ganks the entire game. Didn't land 1 hook the entire game and carried that mid like it was a HIV+ needle.
He ended with 4 kills, 10 deaths, 2 assists. Toxic cunt. I had out-leveled him as Disruptor and finished with 3 kills, 5 deaths and 10 assists D:
He ended with 4 kills, 10 deaths, 2 assists. Toxic cunt. I had out-leveled him as Disruptor and finished with 3 kills, 5 deaths and 10 assists D:
:lol
Should have sent a message, would have invited you
The dip at the end is where they lost a bad teamfight while pushing, in the last 3 minutes we took 2 towers, barracks, 2 towers and the ancient
Should have sent a message, would have invited you
The dip at the end is where they lost a bad teamfight while pushing, in the last 3 minutes we took 2 towers, barracks, 2 towers and the ancient
By Hitch Go To Post:lolHad one of those games. We had a sniper and someone else that was a late game hero, Enigma, timbersaw, Shaker (me) . Going high ground was super hard for them.
Should have sent a message, would have invited you
The dip at the end is where they lost a bad teamfight while pushing, in the last 3 minutes we took 2 towers, barracks, 2 towers and the ancient
We got rekt for the first 35 minutes. and the pinoys wouldn't shut the fuck up the whole game. muted them at the 20 minute mark.
They lost a team fight, we walked down mid and they just kept running at us as they respawned, so it was always a 1 or 2 v 5 as they tried to defend.
God bless that enigma though. He at least called during the drat that he was going jungle so our off laner knew he was solo and i knew i was going hard 5.
lol them ruskies aint so bad
Sounds pretty good to me, Misery played offlane for secret after Fly was kicked and did a decent job. He should be stable in games, but I have doubts about him making big plays like Zai did. Apart from Misery I think it's really solid. w33 is an unknown, he hasn't ever performed at top level, but under leadership from puppey and ee I think he'll become really good.
I think this team will be the only western team to compete at EG's level.
By Mastadon Go To PostNew Secret team confirmed:
1 - EternalEnvy
2 - w33haa
3 - Misery
4 - Puppey
5 - Pieliedie
Interested to see Misery play offlane, suprising really considering Bone7 doesn't have a team. Puppey and EE together should be amazing too.
Sounds pretty good to me, Misery played offlane for secret after Fly was kicked and did a decent job. He should be stable in games, but I have doubts about him making big plays like Zai did. Apart from Misery I think it's really solid. w33 is an unknown, he hasn't ever performed at top level, but under leadership from puppey and ee I think he'll become really good.
I think this team will be the only western team to compete at EG's level.
By giririsss Go To PostHad one of those games. We had a sniper and someone else that was a late game hero, Enigma, timbersaw, Shaker (me) . Going high ground was super hard for them.Ha, that 1/2vs5 is exactly what happened to us in the big push. Guess they lost their heads and couldn't wait til they all respawned for a winner-takes-all teamfight, we were basically just rolling over individual heroes as they attacked our ball of death.
We got rekt for the first 35 minutes. and the pinoys wouldn't shut the fuck up the whole game. muted them at the 20 minute mark.
They lost a team fight, we walked down mid and they just kept running at us as they respawned, so it was always a 1 or 2 v 5 as they tried to defend.
God bless that enigma though. He at least called during the drat that he was going jungle so our off laner knew he was solo and i knew i was going hard 5.
Does anyone have any build tips for visage? I picked him on single draft last night having never played him before, and had a ball with him. Got the first 3 kills because W is crazy early on, but after 25 mins didn't feel that effective. What do you build on him if you want to be aggressive?
Yeah visage's W is really nice early/mid game, but as that skill falls off your birds come online and you stay relevant all game. Hardest thing with Visage is being able to micro the birds effectively, the birds have an active (q) which causes them to drop and stun in AOE which is awesome if you can pull it off and chain stun. The active is also necesarry to reset the attack charges, if they fall to zero your birds lose most their damage, so remember to keep that refreshed.
Items depend on the game, but aghs is good (gives extra bird), and so are -armour items like solar crest and assault cuirass if you can afford. Mek is good too.
dotabuff gives good info on win rates of different builds http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/visage
Items depend on the game, but aghs is good (gives extra bird), and so are -armour items like solar crest and assault cuirass if you can afford. Mek is good too.
dotabuff gives good info on win rates of different builds http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/visage
I find that the biggest thing with Visage is to make sure that if you're not good at micro, at the very least keep track of your birds and make sure to keep them from getting killed when you're dead. If you neglect that, you're giving the other team a lot of free gold.
find a setup that helps your micro, I have mine set as
1-select hero
2-select other controlled units
ctrl-order all units
tab to cycle through units
made most micro pretty easy
1-select hero
2-select other controlled units
ctrl-order all units
tab to cycle through units
made most micro pretty easy
Did okay with the micro, landed some nice stuns but was caught out of position a few times because i was controlling the wrong unit. Seems like a good hero to learn micro on actually, will give him another go tonight.
By Mastadon Go To PostDid okay with the micro, landed some nice stuns but was caught out of position a few times because i was controlling the wrong unit. Seems like a good hero to learn micro on actually, will give him another go tonight.lern 2 meepo moran
Played with a Meepo not so long ago who refused to skill Poof because it was too hard to do haha. Almost as good as that Riki we played against who didn't skill invis :D
I just don't get Spectre's place in dota2 at the moment.
Super weak laner.
Average jungler because her core items don't have lifesteal or cleave.
Needs tons of farm.
Comes on line super late.
If the enemy has any AoE haunt is borderline useless.
Super weak laner.
Average jungler because her core items don't have lifesteal or cleave.
Needs tons of farm.
Comes on line super late.
If the enemy has any AoE haunt is borderline useless.
By Mastadon Go To PostPlayed with a Meepo not so long ago who refused to skill Poof because it was too hard to do haha. Almost as good as that Riki we played against who didn't skill invis :DI don't think I'll ever see something as odd as that Riki
By giririsss Go To PostI just don't get Spectre's place in dota2 at the moment.
Super weak laner.
Average jungler because her core items don't have lifesteal or cleave.
Needs tons of farm.
Comes on line super late.
If the enemy has any AoE haunt is borderline useless.
I think the radiance buff helped a little, the global 17% miss chance is pretty nice when you use haunt. Otherwise yeah, she's really lackluster. Games aren't going that long at the moment, and there are much better heroes who can carry for 45mins by snowballing with hero kills early on.
By Mastadon Go To PostI think the radiance buff helped a little, the global 17% miss chance is pretty nice when you use haunt. Otherwise yeah, she's really lackluster. Games aren't going that long at the moment, and there are much better heroes who can carry for 45mins by snowballing with hero kills early on.Medusa seems stronger. At least she's ranged. So harder to zone out of the lane.
Naga, sleep is much more useful in teamfights early on. And a much better escape mechanism.
Void, refresher void with damage is so stronk.
Heck Luna / TA may be just as powerful late game and are much more useful earl.
I get that the radiance buff is nice. But haunt doesn't even seem that useful in the era of big team fight heroes with AOE. All the illusions get rekt.
Zai confirmed as EG's sub.
All these new teams are experimenting with unknown players and unestablished talent, whereas EG have the best Western pos. 4 and top 3 offlaner as their fucking sub.
Gg.
All these new teams are experimenting with unknown players and unestablished talent, whereas EG have the best Western pos. 4 and top 3 offlaner as their fucking sub.
Gg.
Won't it become very dull if there is a single dominant team?
I'm expecting to be headhunted after my PA performance yesterday
'why MKB?'
24-1, that's why :P
I'm expecting to be headhunted after my PA performance yesterday
'why MKB?'
24-1, that's why :P
lol hitch.
I watch my bro occasionally and he generally specs his items outside of the norm or recommended. He gets fucking howled at, which always draws a giggle.
I watch my bro occasionally and he generally specs his items outside of the norm or recommended. He gets fucking howled at, which always draws a giggle.
By Facism Go To Postlol hitch.I do kind of the opposite, I flood my hero with passive items as I get overwhelmed by too many active abilities and items
I watch my bro occasionally and he generally specs his items outside of the norm or recommended. He gets fucking howled at, which always draws a giggle.
If there's a BKB, fuck that
If there's a Blademail, fuck that
If there's a Eul's, fuck that
Ended up yesterday with Treads, Battle Fury, Satanic and MKB
So with PA that's regular crits, lifesteal, AoE damage and minibash :D
You haven't lived til you've wiped out 9/10 of a hero's health with one hit. I wouldn't use her when playing solo though, only managed to get so much farm because Mastodon was playing hard-support/sacrificial lamb, which I needed for the last hits, setup for hero damage and to allow me to escape while they targetted him.
Yeah MKB was fine really, although I think picking up Skull Basher would have been better for you to get the mini bash up earlier. Then you could have built in to Abyssal, which is ridiculously good on PA. That was a fun game, I think I prefer Rhasta's disables to Lion's, although it's easier to get kills with Lion.
By Mastadon Go To PostYeah MKB was fine really, although I think picking up Skull Basher would have been better for you to get the mini bash up earlier. Then you could have built in to Abyssal, which is ridiculously good on PA. That was a fun game, I think I prefer Rhasta's disables to Lion's, although it's easier to get kills with Lion.24-1 bruv
Proof is in the pudding ¬¬
Don't think I've ever built a skull basher
Just now seen that MKB provides True Strike. Wonder how much that fucks PA when used against her. Though you never wanna go toe-to-toe with PA when she isn't disabled I guess.
By Hitch Go To Post24-1 bruvMKB nullifies PA a lot. Just like it nullifies butterfly a lot. It's the natural counter to PA. And it basically ruins her game.
Just now seen that MKB provides True Strike. Wonder how much that fucks PA when used against her. Though you never wanna go toe-to-toe with PA when she isn't disabled I guess.
The true strike part of MKB is why you'll also see it on ranged heroes, so that thy can hit towers from low ground with out the miss chance.
I would have gone for Basher over MKB too, though MKB isn't ever a bad choice because of the stats it provides ontop of true strike.
But it can also depend on the heroes you play against, getting a diffusal to drain mana isn't bad against someone like a storm or WK or the like. But for fuck sake, build a BKB too. The increased attack speed is worth it alone on PA.
Also, you won't ever learn to juggle your active items if you never build them :P I hated it at first, but i've gotten a lot better at it. Though there's a good reason you don't see more than one or 2 active items on most "pro" builds. You won't ever get to use more than one or two. Sometimes at the outside, 3.
mkb 5400g
88 damage
24 attack speed
35% mini-bash (0.1s)
true strike
abyssal 6750g
85 damage
10 strength
25% bash (1.4s)
active- 2s bkb piercing stun hoolySHIT how is that balanced rofl come on guys it's so much better
88 damage
24 attack speed
35% mini-bash (0.1s)
true strike
abyssal 6750g
85 damage
10 strength
25% bash (1.4s)
active- 2s bkb piercing stun hoolySHIT how is that balanced rofl come on guys it's so much better
if I was that far ahead I would just build evasion items and sit in their fountain
is anyone doing the gaf ihl
is anyone doing the gaf ihl
By ReRixo Go To Postif I was that far ahead I would just build evasion items and sit in their fountainButterfly+level 4 E =75% evasion right?
is anyone doing the gaf ihl
Trying to kill someone with high evasion is just the most frustrating thing. After being killed by Techies, of course.
0.675... I think. I'm not 100% but iirc the way it works is a separate source of evasion comes online if the first source of evasion fails. So if pa's blur doesn't proc, butterfly will then active 35% chance to proc. A second butterfly would take it up to 0.788 if that's right.
The average Dota player is nowhere near as cuntish as you'd expect before starting, but the worst are far worse than anyone can prepare you for
Imagine spending 35 minutes playing properly, then just deciding that you'd rather lose and wasting a further 20 minutes
Imagine spending 35 minutes playing properly, then just deciding that you'd rather lose and wasting a further 20 minutes
Thank god for the new patch. No more techies or radioactive pony man every game. Decent nerfs to Storm and Lina too.
Offlane Night Stalker looks like it'll be viable with his HP regen. The buffs to Legion look huge to me as well.
Offlane Night Stalker looks like it'll be viable with his HP regen. The buffs to Legion look huge to me as well.
some of the nerfs make no sense
PL wasn't op
riki didn't need buffs, that hero is going to be annoying in pubs, but maybe it can offlane in competitive now
spectre 59.16% win rate lol
storm nerfs make me sad, seems excessive
only boring heroes benefiting from this patch (apart from invoker)
icefrog losing his touch
PL wasn't op
riki didn't need buffs, that hero is going to be annoying in pubs, but maybe it can offlane in competitive now
spectre 59.16% win rate lol
storm nerfs make me sad, seems excessive
only boring heroes benefiting from this patch (apart from invoker)
icefrog losing his touch
PL will be okay, changes don't seem too extensive. QoP nerf is weird to me, she was really well balanced.
By ReRixo Go To Postsome of the nerfs make no senseLegion Commander: 'boring'
PL wasn't op
riki didn't need buffs, that hero is going to be annoying in pubs, but maybe it can offlane in competitive now
spectre 59.16% win rate lol
storm nerfs make me sad, seems excessive
only boring heroes benefiting from this patch (apart from invoker)
icefrog losing his touch
u r ded 2 me
Fuck playing solo since the change
Absolute nightmare. Feels like my MMR has been twatted, which comes with a bunch of knobends who don't connect, disconnect all the time, ragequit and/or abandon. Combine that with server issues, and its a shit experience.
Absolute nightmare. Feels like my MMR has been twatted, which comes with a bunch of knobends who don't connect, disconnect all the time, ragequit and/or abandon. Combine that with server issues, and its a shit experience.
By Hitch Go To PostFuck playing solo since the changeMy biggest problem, and has been all along. is the toxcity of people and people playing heroes they don't understand.
Absolute nightmare. Feels like my MMR has been twatted, which comes with a bunch of knobends who don't connect, disconnect all the time, ragequit and/or abandon. Combine that with server issues, and its a shit experience.
Had some reject blow up at me because he didn't get a dream start playing safe lane bounty hunter. He last picked BH. Was just idiocy. Muted him in under 2 minutes.
The other people are the main reason I have a hard time getting back into Dota. There are so many just absolutely fucking toxic players. Dota is in dire need of an Overwatch style system for abuse and shit players.
By ReRixo Go To Postlol yeah, problem is everyone think they're better than the shitty bracket they're inexactly.
By Granadier Go To PostThe other people are the main reason I have a hard time getting back into Dota. There are so many just absolutely fucking toxic players. Dota is in dire need of an Overwatch style system for abuse and shit players.Maybe it does, but it's hard to implement - most people won't have a good enough understanding of the game to perform overwatch duties. I've been reported so many times for farming instead of fighting bad fights, I don't want to get banned because some idiot thinks I should fight 24/7. Valve can detect with their own tools things like mass courier feeding, I guess they just don't care about sorting that stuff out right now.
exactly.
By ReRixo Go To PostMaybe it does, but it's hard to implement - most people won't have a good enough understanding of the game to perform overwatch duties. I've been reported so many times for farming instead of fighting bad fights, I don't want to get banned because some idiot thinks I should fight 24/7. Valve can detect with their own tools things like mass courier feeding, I guess they just don't care about sorting that stuff out right now.
It's also harder in dota2 than anything, because the hero pool is so massive, counter picks are really hard to do, and you're better off on a hero you're good on, than a counter pick you've never played.
It gets difficult.
I played with a mid slark. Again, he last picked, and thought it "countered" the other line up. It didn't. He refused to fight until he had skadi.
What valve are in desperate need of, with so many of their games becoming so very large, and becoming e-sports with LOTS of money in them, is a much better community team than they have.
Start with, they need a community team.
By giririsss Go To PostStart with, they need a community team.This will happen when hell freezes over.
Not saying it's not sorely needed.
By Granadier Go To PostThis will happen when hell freezes over.Don't disagree. But Valve's current model really wasn't with an e-sport in mid. let alone several. And it's starting to reflect in the quality of the product.
Not saying it's not sorely needed.