By giririsss Go To PostC9 look lost. Not as lost as VG, but they seem really unstable. I'm wondering if they don't disband after TI. I know Zai has said that if secret wins, he's going to retire to finish university. BDN back to secret?
I think Bulldog could go to Secret if Zai leaves. Alliance are dead and he's stood in for Secret a few times. C9 are a mess, but they're a glorious mess. They should have held on to Aui.
By Mastadon Go To PostI think Bulldog could go to Secret if Zai leaves. Alliance are dead and he's stood in for Secret a few times. C9 are a mess, but they're a glorious mess. They should have held on to Aui.Bulldog may have stood in, but he's never left Alliance. And I don't think he ever will. Alliance were looking better, but they need time with a stable roster to really come full circle.
C9 Have gone backwards in results, and they seem further away now than ever from winning tourneys. I have two reasons they may just blow up. One, I don't see anyone there that isn't at or very close to their skill cap. I'm not sure there's more player development to be had. Two, They're just not gelling, so they may just call it a day, and try again with a new squad.
And yeah, they miss Aui's talent for sure.
By giririsss Go To PostOk. Then you're probably at the point where you need to know this: The biggest myth in Dota is that supports should sacrifice ALL game. And it's something a lot of people believe at all levels and its just flat out wrong.Whenever I support Mastadon I get more kills and assists, and less deaths than the twat.
That Witch Doctor getting his aghs? Super important. Earth shaker getting his blink? Incredibly important. After about the 20/25 minute mark you want to start seeing your supports farming to get some item progression.
Even to the point carrys should be buying wards, smoke, dust. Particularly if you're a super active one like qop where you might go push a lane deeper into enemy territory than it would ever be smart for a support to be.
Supports are there to do that, support. Their role isn't "sacrifice". If you want them to be able to support later on into the game, they need some farm.
I only do ability and healing support, never ward unless someone tells me to
Especially with Lich, its easy to go in intending to support and try and do your best to give the carry kills, but end up with a lot of xp and gold, at which point you can just transition into a more pushing and killing role
Really love using Legion Commander
By Hitch Go To PostReally love using Legion CommanderJust don't go Jungle LC.
Literally makes you a horrible person. Like a genuinely terrible human being.
By giririsss Go To PostJust don't go Jungle LC.
Literally makes you a horrible person. Like a genuinely terrible human being.
Hitch has been taking me through a few games as i'm a proper noob at this. He was shaming the other team intensely as LC. Too much powah
By Facism Go To PostHitch has been taking me through a few games as i'm a proper noob at this. He was shaming the other team intensely as LC. Too much powahLC is a good hero if you can get off to a good start. Can become super powerful mid-late with all that bonus damage.
But it's a horrendous hero to jungle with, not efficient at all, and most people who do it are also really inefficient at it to boot, haven't read proper guides / timings. So you usually end up with a under-levelled under-farmed LC. That means she basically becomes just a disable, and with out blink that's not even super useful.
If you really want to jungle, use Enigma. Download / watch some of puppey's games on how he farms with it (what items, the timings, the skill build). It's not complicated, and there's a reason why Enigma is known as the fastest Jungler in the game.
I never, ever jungle unless most of my team is dead and I just want some safe farm while waiting for them to respawn :P
LC is pretty good at our level because it's easy to come back from a bad lane. You can land some easy duels and get the strength bonuses, or you can clear creep waves/camps pretty quickly with OO if you need to.
super frustrating. Just got disconnected from a server after a mad fucking gank as SB. can't reconnect at all. Load up the old client, shows me as ingame but i have no way to take control.
Anyone here live in NY?
While watching the CS tournament I saw the ad for ESL New York. I don't really know much about Dota but I'm thinking of going since it is at MSG. would be cool to meet up with some slaenters if I do.
While watching the CS tournament I saw the ad for ESL New York. I don't really know much about Dota but I'm thinking of going since it is at MSG. would be cool to meet up with some slaenters if I do.
By Facism Go To Postlooks like we all got disconnected. Do i get an abandon?Normally it recognises that there's been a problem with the game afaik, so doesn't give you an Abandon
Doesn't give you an apology either though ¬¬
Gutted about Secret, S4 was really out of form in the main event. Looked like Rtz+Zai against 5 at times.
Want VP to go on to win it now. G is excellent.
Want VP to go on to win it now. G is excellent.
By Mastadon Go To PostGutted about Secret, S4 was really out of form in the main event. Looked like Rtz+Zai against 5 at times.Yeah, S4 was off his game.
Want VP to go on to win it now. G is excellent.
Kuro wasn't at his normal standard either.
Zai was probably the best on the Team, but Arteezy wasn't far off. Puppey was solid at worst.
I hope they stick together. I feel like they have unfinished business. But who knows. Zai has been keen to go back to college.
By Hitch Go To PostWait, Secret are out?Lost to VP 2 - 1.
Mastadon you cunt, you told me to predict that they'd win.
MVP are out too.
And Ehome are out.
By Hitch Go To PostWait, Secret are out?
Mastadon you cunt, you told me to predict that they'd win.
They were massive favorites to be fair. I bet no one had them outside of their top three.
Holy shit i think the post-TI team shuffles might be more interesting than the actual tournament.
C9 disbanded, Aui2k kicked from EG after winning TI, Arteezy replacing him.
Madness.
C9 disbanded, Aui2k kicked from EG after winning TI, Arteezy replacing him.
Madness.
yeah it's pretty crazy
although I was hoping Envy and Artour would team up lol
I wonder what will happen to notail and aui, two of the best 4 players in the western scene
maybe aui and pieliedie will reunite
although I was hoping Envy and Artour would team up lol
I wonder what will happen to notail and aui, two of the best 4 players in the western scene
maybe aui and pieliedie will reunite
By ReRixo Go To Postyeah it's pretty crazynotail is more a 5 than a 4. But he can be either.
although I was hoping Envy and Artour would team up lol
I wonder what will happen to notail and aui, two of the best 4 players in the western scene
maybe aui and pieliedie will reunite
aui is a super greedy 4 most of the time, more a 3.
But they're both really good.
Most of the shuffle will now revolve around EE and Puppey/S4
We know the only 2 officially left on secret are S4/Puppey. Puppey/NoTail/Aui/S4/Black would be... interesting.
Unless black takes up one of the spots on MVP. as QO has left to go back to AU.
But there's a lot of people not on teams. SingSing for starters.
I don't think Black or Sing are good enough for top tier teams, more interested in seeing if w33 or Waga can transition properly into pro scene. Can't see puppey and kky splitting up, but I'd really like to see puppey play with soneiko.
I'm not sure how well Aui would do on the offlane though, sure he had games where he would transition into a 3 role, but that's very different from being a dedicated 3 player. Aui transitioning to 3 only really worked when Universe would be playing heroes with low farm reqs like Clock.
I'm not sure how well Aui would do on the offlane though, sure he had games where he would transition into a 3 role, but that's very different from being a dedicated 3 player. Aui transitioning to 3 only really worked when Universe would be playing heroes with low farm reqs like Clock.
I'm not sure NoTail is top tier either to be honest. He plays a mean Wisp but he's been under performing for a while now. I thought he was C9's weakest link at TI.
I wonder if Aui will end up back at the new C9, with EE and three others.
I wonder if Aui will end up back at the new C9, with EE and three others.
Had a lot of fun with Disruptor. Glimpse is a legitimately hilarious ability that
a) saved my ass from a horny broodmother by sending the cunt halfway back across the map whilst i made a positioning error
b)pulled one of their squishy supports back into a team fight and kinetic field
c)got an early kill by trapping a cunt under our tower after he overextended
a) saved my ass from a horny broodmother by sending the cunt halfway back across the map whilst i made a positioning error
b)pulled one of their squishy supports back into a team fight and kinetic field
c)got an early kill by trapping a cunt under our tower after he overextended
By Facism Go To PostHad a lot of fun with Disruptor. Glimpse is a legitimately hilarious ability.
Glimpsing someone who has just TP'd is literally the best thing in dota
By Mastadon Go To PostGlimpsing someone who has just TP'd is literally the best thing in dota
haha excellent. Want to do it to a spirit breaker
Kuro and Puppey ARE splitting up. Kuro is going to make an all german stack. Rumour has it, it was him that was at the core of the ego problems in Secret. People are projecting this back to his Navi days when xboct said similar things about ego's, but with out naming names. Eh, take that with a large grain of salt.
Black has proven numerous times he's an amazing carry player who can play at the top level and win tourneys. VG were at their peak with Black.
Sing has done the same. He dragged several teams of b-grade talent to a-tier competitions.
Both are really good.
Notail played a lot of supports that were on the short end of the stick in C9. Its hard to blame the downfall of the entire team onto him. His biggest mistake seems to be sticking to Fly/Simba too closely. He's a pretty amazing player in general and his gmae knowledge is bonkers. Listening to him cast is pretty insane. His ability to predict the opponent is amazing.
Also, really have no desire to see Puppey go back to Navi. Would feel like regression. And Puppey has no real interest in letting a 'team' cut into his earnings again.
Black has proven numerous times he's an amazing carry player who can play at the top level and win tourneys. VG were at their peak with Black.
Sing has done the same. He dragged several teams of b-grade talent to a-tier competitions.
Both are really good.
Notail played a lot of supports that were on the short end of the stick in C9. Its hard to blame the downfall of the entire team onto him. His biggest mistake seems to be sticking to Fly/Simba too closely. He's a pretty amazing player in general and his gmae knowledge is bonkers. Listening to him cast is pretty insane. His ability to predict the opponent is amazing.
Also, really have no desire to see Puppey go back to Navi. Would feel like regression. And Puppey has no real interest in letting a 'team' cut into his earnings again.
By Hitch Go To PostChen, Dragon Knight and Techies in the same matchThe early game push is sorta insane.
Can't get my head around that.
Zais blog post
At the end of it, he calls out Kuro. States Arteezy is basically correct on all points.
That's pretty damming.
At the end of it, he calls out Kuro. States Arteezy is basically correct on all points.
That's pretty damming.
Yeah doesn't surprise me, you can see that Arteezy has matured a lot from where he was when he joined Secret. 1437 and Zai have both corroborated Arteezy's version of event, and Kuro has form for this kind of stuff. Glad to see Arteezy is still cool with Puppey though, would love to see those two and Zai together again.
By Hitch Go To PostGive me a tldr of the drama pls
Okay, so basically Team Secret massively under performed at TI and there were rumors of disharmony in the team. Arteezy was seen having words with Kuroky on the pod cam at TI and most people presumed that Arteezy was the cause as he has a bit of a reptuation for that kind of thing.
Arteezy then kinda went in to the dynamics on the Secret issues on his stream, implying that Kuroky (who is known to be really calm and quiet) was the cause of the majority of the issues in the team. Most people doubted this, but Zai and 1437 (Secret Team coach) have basically confirmed Arteezy's version of events.
Just after TI, Aui_2000 (Pos. 4 support) was kicked from Evil Geniuses despite having a huge role in them winning TI (CDEC banned out Naga and Techies in every game in the final, both of which Aui played against the in the semi's meaning that PPD was able to draft strong heroes for Fear).
Aui_2000 tweets he's been kicked from EG. - "i have been kicked from eg after winning ti. i actually hate people"
Arteezy has re-joined EG as their carry, with Fear moving to support to replace Aui due to his arm injuries. C9 have officially disbanded, as have Secret by the looks of it. There's going to be a lot of team changes in the next week or so, as the teams have to have their rosters locked for the new Valve majors system.
By Mastadon Go To PostOkay, so basically Team Secret massively under performed at TI and there were rumors of disharmony in the team. Arteezy was seen having words with Kuroky on the pod cam at TI and most people presumed that Arteezy was the cause as he has a bit of a reptuation for that kind of thing.So basically, this is our chance to get in there?
Arteezy then kinda went in to the dynamics on the Secret issues on his stream, implying that Kuroky (who is known to be really calm and quiet) was the cause of the majority of the issues in the team. Most people doubted this, but Zai and 1437 (Secret Team coach) have basically confirmed Arteezy's version of events.
Just after TI, Aui_2000 (Pos. 4 support) was kicked from Evil Geniuses despite having a huge role in them winning TI (CDEC banned out Naga and Techies in every game in the final, both of which Aui played against the in the semi's meaning that PPD was able to draft strong heroes for Fear).
Arteezy has re-joined EG as their carry, with Fear moving to support to replace Aui due to his arm injuries. C9 have officially disbanded, as have Secret by the looks of it. There's going to be a lot of team changes in the next week or so, as the teams have to have their rosters locked for the new Valve majors system.
My last game was amazing. We had a PA that managed to die 6 times in the first 5 minutes, who went onto whine about the rest of us being shit.
By Mastadon Go To PostArteezy has re-joined EG as their carry, with Fear moving to support to replace Aui due to his arm injuries. C9 have officially disbanded, as have Secret by the looks of it. There's going to be a lot of team changes in the next week or so, as the teams have to have their rosters locked for the new Valve majors system.
Wait, does that mean Valve is starting to regulate Dota like Riot does with League?
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostWait, does that mean Valve is starting to regulate Dota like Riot does with League?So Riot (particularly in NA) get involved in the contracts. Paying players a salary.
Valve aren't having any part of that. But they are saying that if you want to play in the "majors". Your team roster has to be stable for defined periods. effectively only allowing 2 transfer windows a year.
By giririsss Go To PostSo Riot (particularly in NA) get involved in the contracts. Paying players a salary.
Valve aren't having any part of that. But they are saying that if you want to play in the "majors". Your team roster has to be stable for defined periods. effectively only allowing 2 transfer windows a year.
Good to hear. Riot instituting the LCS and Challenger systems got rid of a bunch of skeazy organizations looking to make a buck off of players or just plain cheat them out of their contracts/salaries. Not saying Valve should have the same set up, but they should be more involved to make sure there aren't any shenanigans
Valve isn't regulating much, but to qualify for their majors you need to meet certain criteria. Part of that includes having a roster locked 3 weeks after TI (I don't know when the next transfer window is). We'll see how that works out, some people in the scene say 3 weeks is not enough time, so I'm sure there'll be some tweaking along the way.
New Secret team confirmed:
1 - EternalEnvy
2 - w33haa
3 - Misery
4 - Puppey
5 - Pieliedie
Interested to see Misery play offlane, suprising really considering Bone7 doesn't have a team. Puppey and EE together should be amazing too.
1 - EternalEnvy
2 - w33haa
3 - Misery
4 - Puppey
5 - Pieliedie
Interested to see Misery play offlane, suprising really considering Bone7 doesn't have a team. Puppey and EE together should be amazing too.
By Mastadon Go To PostNew Secret team confirmed:really mixed on this team. not particularly fond of EE as a player. And EE was dissing Miserys ability to communicate just as week ago.
1 - EternalEnvy
2 - w33haa
3 - Misery
4 - Puppey
5 - Pieliedie
Interested to see Misery play offlane, suprising really considering Bone7 doesn't have a team. Puppey and EE together should be amazing too.
It's amazing how a toxic player, even when he's not going after you, shits up the entire game.
I spend more time reporting people for being toxic team mates than I ever do just because they're bad.
I spend more time reporting people for being toxic team mates than I ever do just because they're bad.