I was reading the press release and I'm not sure how that's a massive win.
It's like saying I won because I got 40 bucks on 2 lottery tickets out of 50.
It's like saying I won because I got 40 bucks on 2 lottery tickets out of 50.
By Flutter Go To PostI was reading the press release and I'm not sure how that's a massive win.Because the journos on City's payroll says it is.
It's like saying I won because I got 40 bucks on 2 lottery tickets out of 50.
By sohois Go To PostThe times just a full on City PR joint now then I suppose?Hasn't Martin Samuel been doing that for them for years?
By Hitch Go To PostHasn't Martin Samuel been doing that for them for years?sure but unless he ate the rest of the Times staff I'm not sure why the other journalists are lining up to push City's BS
Huh. I have no idea why but I always thought you were at Slaughter & May.
Anyway, have you made Legal Director yet?
Anyway, have you made Legal Director yet?
By sohois Go To Postsure but unless he ate the rest of the Times staff I'm not sure why the other journalists are lining up to push City's BS
From my experience on this sort of thing both parties know the embargoed outcome and so have all their PR written up and ready to go to the press literally the second the embargo is up. No idea if the PL neglected to do this but it's pretty obvious from the early headlines that City certainly did.
By Scum Go To PostHuh. I have no idea why but I always thought you were at Slaughter & May.Horse clearly works at Wolfram and Hart's London branch.
Anyway, have you made Legal Director yet?
By Willkiller Go To PostPR doping
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Whether this helps City or not ultimately, it sounds like there could be major repercussions for the rest of the league which could help City tangentially if it affects Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc. Everton's financial woes would get that much worse.. ÂŁ451m in interest free loans, oof. I guess Brighton doesn't have a huge incentive to pay them off if they're interest free, but you'd think they'd certainly have the money to chip away at that with their huge transfer windfalls.
By Laboured Go To PostCity are just going to continue suing the league to troll them because that's who they are. And it's funny because their behaviour belies the fact that they are primarily a sports-washing entity.
Fun little chaser to this to prove my point:
By Perfect Blue Go To PostTariq Panja what a shit stirrer
🤝 we can agree he knows fuck all.
I can’t remember the terminology but a few weeks ago it was city have achieved very little at great expense
Nope
Proven if anything that PL are inept.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostI was being sarcastic
Don’t be like that.
Reading hit by fresh embargo as new buyer emerges
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8j73jkgzldo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8j73jkgzldo
By Scum Go To PostReading hit by fresh embargo as new buyer emergesIt's alright, it turns out you can just sue the league and then all the rules you signed up for and agreed to go away!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8j73jkgzldo
de Nees RiP
Under rated but that happens when you play most of your career, Ajax & Barca along side one of the greatest ever, but fantastic box to box midfielder.
First minute '74 final and his penalty will probably always be remembered in this country.
Under rated but that happens when you play most of your career, Ajax & Barca along side one of the greatest ever, but fantastic box to box midfielder.
First minute '74 final and his penalty will probably always be remembered in this country.
By Scum Go To Post'Stars'
By markao Go To Postde Nees RiPRest in peace
Under rated but that happens when you play most of your career, Ajax & Barca along side one of the greatest ever, but fantastic box to box midfielder.
First minute '74 final and his penalty will probably always be remembered in this country.
One by one the heroes of old leave us
Didi was a Brazilian footballer from the 50s/60s. He invented the knuckleball technique for free kicks and 12 out of the 20 goals he scored for Brazil were direct free kicks.
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By Kidjr Go To PostI do wonder if city werent winning so much if anyone would care.Much like Trump, nobody cared until they started winning bigly. Then again look at Everton.
By KimoSan Go To PostI wonder who Jota Silva's favorite player is…Samuel Eto'o
By KimoSan Go To PostI wonder who Jota Silva's favorite player is…Andy Reid
It's a bit like a pointless squabble with a friend where you hammer at a certain point in increasing granularity until the other side concedes that specific ground, meanwhile you've missed the forest for the trees. You look like an ass and you lost the bigger debate, but at least you got to say you were right about that one thing.
What did City get for their enormous legal bill? Well, their counsel successfully argued that shareholder loans should be subject to APT rules in the future, although that may not be the volcano that some seem to hope. The rules will not be backdated. From the moment that these additions are made, PSR likely only has around nine months to run until it is replaced by the new so-called squad cost financial controls. Interest on shareholder loans is not currently planned to be included.
Some of the APT decisions relating to the deals with Etihad and the First Abu Dhabi Bank were set aside temporarily on a procedural basis to do with the disclosure from the Premier League’s central database of commercial deals. But that was the only reason for doing so, and those deals will still have to pass the APT tests that they have so far failed.
In both the Etihad and First Abu Dhabi Bank deals, City had challenged the Premier League decision that they were not struck at fair market value. In both cases the panel said the Premier League was right to do so.
The February amendment to the APT rules, the panel ruled, will have to be annulled – principally over the wording. But what does that mean? As things stand, not much at all. The Premier League said in a statement it can be “quickly and effectively… remedied”. It is understood that even Chelsea’s hotels sale from one part of its ownership group to the other, a dubious PSR manoeuvre, predated the amendment. That too will remain unaffected.
I don't City were trying to get APT ripped up entirely because would have been very unlikely to happen, so in that context the league getting one in the eye is a big deal for City ahead of the 115 charges hearing because (once again) it does make the league look like a bit of a shitshow. If you think City's aim was to get big changes to this aspect of the financial rules, they've absolutely failed. If you think City's aim was to show they can defeat the PL on their own rules, thereby setting setting a precedent in which a single club can bring a (successful) league challenge outside of the usual 14/20 club vote system.
In the least few years the league has had:
- Our takeover debacle which was ridiculous for so many reasons
- Everton/Forest points deductions and appeals
- The Leicester City charges defeat
- A ruling saying the league brought in half-arsed 'unlawful' APT rule changes
- The general PSR rule madness, with loads of teams making ridiculous deals to get around them in June
The league has wanted to appear strong in the face of the prospect of an independent regulator but they've proven they need one more than ever.
I still absolutely believe City will face some punishment for their 115 charges despite all of this, to be clear. But it certainly doesn't give me confidence the PL will be able to maximise City's legal losses.
In the least few years the league has had:
- Our takeover debacle which was ridiculous for so many reasons
- Everton/Forest points deductions and appeals
- The Leicester City charges defeat
- A ruling saying the league brought in half-arsed 'unlawful' APT rule changes
- The general PSR rule madness, with loads of teams making ridiculous deals to get around them in June
The league has wanted to appear strong in the face of the prospect of an independent regulator but they've proven they need one more than ever.
I still absolutely believe City will face some punishment for their 115 charges despite all of this, to be clear. But it certainly doesn't give me confidence the PL will be able to maximise City's legal losses.
I do think if City wanted to make the PL look incompetent / unserious they needn't have bothered. As you've listed there's plenty of evidence of that already.
I do think City attacking and overturning a rule they explicitly voted for entirely gives the game away as to what they're actually doing, though. It's to discredit the PL in the face of what comes and generally chip away at their authority.
Lovely little side note that went under the radar, but City had also tried to claim that these rules were actually racist towards gulf nations. I cannot even imagine having that gall.
I do think City attacking and overturning a rule they explicitly voted for entirely gives the game away as to what they're actually doing, though. It's to discredit the PL in the face of what comes and generally chip away at their authority.
Lovely little side note that went under the radar, but City had also tried to claim that these rules were actually racist towards gulf nations. I cannot even imagine having that gall.
By Laboured Go To PostI do think if City wanted to make the PL look incompetent / unserious they needn't have bothered. As you've listed there's plenty of evidence of that already.
I do think City attacking and overturning a rule they explicitly voted for entirely gives the game away as to what they're actually doing, though. It's to discredit the PL in the face of what comes and generally chip away at their authority.
Lovely little side note that went under the radar, but City had also tried to claim that these rules were actually racist towards gulf nations. I cannot even imgine having that gall.
I think the point was exactly that, and in that context I think you could argue they've been successful opposed to the other way around.
It does feel like momentum is building towards a much bigger reform of the league's financial rules at some point in the near future...
I thnk my only issue with that goal is that it undermines the PL's authority mainly for City fans, and, like, who cares? Football is much too tribal for things like that to wash or have that much of an effect. This will fail as a political attack line because it is so nakedly cynical and because the majority of people who care about football in England hate Manchester City, bluntly speaking.