Novel idea here. Just take their money too. I am sure there are exclusivity windows but there needs to be more weekend day games after football season.
By domino Go To PostLakers have decades of success so they’ll always be the #1 team but maybe playing and winning could’ve helped with the perception
if only he was born and raised in a state where he would've known this his entire life
By domino Go To PostSnake on a podcast
if only he was born and raised in a state where he would've known this his entire life
By pilonv1 Go To PostThat man is not ready for a season in Philly
Philly is living off it's reputation and been soft for awhile. Ben and Tobias proved the city is a shell of itself.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostPhilly is living off it's reputation and been soft for awhile. Ben and Tobias proved the city is a shell of itself.philly cooked ben to be fair.
By unknown Go To Postphilly cooked ben to be fair.
Not until after he wanted a trade, before that they fell for the Simmons summer mixtape every single year. They showed patience and compassion for Fultz and Tobias had 2 points in game 6 against the Celtics last year and they were real quiet. Philly is soft now, 20-30 years ago somebody is throwing batteries at Harris.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostNot until after he wanted a trade, before that they fell for the Simmons summer mixtape every single year. They showed patience and compassion for Fultz and Tobias had 2 points in game 6 against the Celtics last year and they were real quiet. Philly is soft now, 20-30 years ago somebody is throwing batteries at Harris.crying...
They shat on him and ruined his career..
lol
philly coped for fultz hard as fuck
blamed the agent, trainer, coach, etc until Embiid made it clear he wasn't part of the guys anymore with his usual passive IG comms - an actual tougher city would've said fuck off 😂
The wizards were harder on Poole after a single month than Philly was on guys for years. Shit, they let Tobias finish his contract lol. The old Philly been gone
blamed the agent, trainer, coach, etc until Embiid made it clear he wasn't part of the guys anymore with his usual passive IG comms - an actual tougher city would've said fuck off 😂
The wizards were harder on Poole after a single month than Philly was on guys for years. Shit, they let Tobias finish his contract lol. The old Philly been gone
By DY_nasty Go To Postphilly coped for fultz hard as fuckBlamed his jump shot off rip..blew his shoulder.
blamed the agent, trainer, coach, etc until Embiid made it clear he wasn't part of the guys anymore with his usual passive IG comms - an actual tougher city would've said fuck off 😂
The wizards were harder on Poole after a single month than Philly was on guys for years. Shit, they let Tobias finish his contract lol. The old Philly been gone
Poole deserved all that heat lol
By blackace Go To PostBlamed his jump shot off rip..blew his shoulder.Over two years he didn't even play 35 games - all while never even being clear on what the issue was. He's lucky to even still be in the league after that
Poole deserved all that heat lol
By DY_nasty Go To PostOver two years he didn't even play 35 games - all while never even being clear on what the issue was. He's lucky to even still be in the league after thatWhile helping mess him further behind the scenes.. dude looks like a Vietnam vet when asked about Philly..
By blackace Go To PostWhile helping mess him further behind the scenes.. dude looks like a Vietnam vet when asked about Philly..He is a perfect example of how the people around you can think they're helping and burn the bridge on your behalf. Dude had Drew Hansen tweeting and deleting disputed medical info on his behalf.
The games he was playing could've had a contract voided anywhere else. I get that's your guy but that was possibly the worst handling of an injury by any young player and their representation in the past 20 years of NBA. And Philly still loved him for an all time meaningless triple double
The fans loved Fultz. Sent him a whole ass get well card ffs. Fans here will cop pleas until you scorn them. The older ones hate hard still for sure tho but they just like to hate in general. But Fultz was treated with kid gloves the entire time he was here and hell even after he left, he got cheered...thats rare as fuck for a former player. It took Ben passing up that shot to get any real vitriol too.... people were in the stands attempting to teach the guy how to fucking shoot FTs lol. I am sure if/when Biid leaves, the pleas for his own bullshit will stop.
Thats how this city has worked for years now. Scared as fuck to "run" any star out of town but also want to keep the "we keep it reAL" rep too when the large majority are bandwagoners at best with the rest enjoying being mad so they can call into the radio and ask for everyone to get fired.
Thats how this city has worked for years now. Scared as fuck to "run" any star out of town but also want to keep the "we keep it reAL" rep too when the large majority are bandwagoners at best with the rest enjoying being mad so they can call into the radio and ask for everyone to get fired.
By DY_nasty Go To PostGotta be Sharpe lol
I'd guess Moses Brown actually, but really the team's a bunch of kids so it could be any of them.
By DY_nasty Go To PostWhy was Chauncey checking players' instagrams at halftime down 18? Maybe this is why he has a historically bad coaching RAPM...
Gotta be Sharpe lol
By Sharp Go To PostWhy was Chauncey checking players' instagrams at halftime down 18? Maybe this is why he has a historically bad coaching RAPM…He was probably informed by another player also checking IG during half-time... Sharp. SHARP.
By DY_nasty Go To Post
Gotta be Sharpe lol
Trevon Duval energy. Dude made "friends" for posting a highlight dunk after a loss to Carolina.
Get people that actually like the NBA. Jamal Crawford and Candace Parker were the best additions to TNT cause they watch games
By Pac-2 Go To PostRight, clearly Inside is doing it wrong, unlike the excellent studio coverage provided by ESPN.Who is defending ESPN here
By reilo Go To PostWho is defending ESPN here
Just odd for that assclown to go after the one decent NBA show, that's all. There are better targets.
By Pac-2 Go To PostJust odd for that assclown to go after the one decent NBA show, that's all. There are better targets.Do they not teach logical fallacies at Duke?
He's clearly talking about Inside here because they are going away and there's a huge set of eulogizing happening. He didn't say anything none of us on here have -- their analysis part of the game has fallen off a cliff ever since Shaq joined. Yea, they got good chemistry and it's lighthearted but it doesn't necessarily make it good NBA coverage.
And clearly ESPN is being defended here by calling out TNT, geez.
And clearly ESPN is being defended here by calling out TNT, geez.
By reilo Go To PostDo they not teach logical fallacies at Duke?
Don't know, I went to a state skool
By reilo Go To PostHe's clearly talking about Inside here because they are going away and there's a huge set of eulogizing happening. He didn't say anything none of us on here have – their analysis part of the game has fallen off a cliff ever since Shaq joined. Yea, they got good chemistry and it's lighthearted but it doesn't necessarily make it good NBA coverage.
And clearly ESPN is being defended here by calling out TNT, geez.
I'm more agreeing with the comment he quoted. It's a good show. Shaq made it worse, yes. But getting rid of it only ensures losing the one good show. It doesn't guarantee Amazon would produce a good show.
Therefore, he's an asshole.
By Pac-2 Go To PostJust odd for that assclown to go after the one decent NBA show, that's all. There are better targets.
TNT show has been bad and just buffoonery for a minute as a basketball show. I don't get how podcasts about the NBA are so popular and they just talk straight up ball with trade rumors yet all the shows suck in comparison.
By Pac-2 Go To PostI'm more agreeing with the comment he quoted. It's a good show. Shaq made it worse, yes. But getting rid of it only ensures losing the one good show. It doesn't guarantee Amazon would produce a good show."one good show" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Inside the NBA has a ton of cheerleader effect going for it.
Therefore, he's an asshole.
They should have pivoted to Webber and GP like a decade ago like I said but America wasn't ready for that...
Inside has not been good since Shaq joined. Gets worse when Draymond is involved. TNTs coverage is better with Candace and Crawford on since they seem to actually like basketball. But even at its worse it is much better than the trash ESPN throws out there and will continue to. Hopefully nbc and Amazon get good people. Seems like Wade is basically trying out for a spot during the Olympics.
"Shaqster, what does PROLIFIC BIG MAN have to do to win this game?" - Ernie
"He gotta dominate" - Shaq
"But shaq, he's playing with 3 broken ribs how does he go about that?" - Ernie
"I don't care, he gotta dominate, he gotta dominate and get buckets" - Shaq
And then Chuck will say they gotta speed the game up.
"He gotta dominate" - Shaq
"But shaq, he's playing with 3 broken ribs how does he go about that?" - Ernie
"I don't care, he gotta dominate, he gotta dominate and get buckets" - Shaq
And then Chuck will say they gotta speed the game up.
Shaq's truly like those roided up idiot gym bros saying all you gotta do is lift hard to get big muscles
Interesting study on shooting variability... bricks this might be interesting to you for your nephew as well.
tl;dr it's not the case that practiced players are worse at controlling the velocity of their shots when it's higher (e.g. when shooting threes) vs. closer to the basket (e.g. when shooting free throws), even though there's much more variability in high velocity releases. Apparently people are really good at dynamically modifying their release to hit the same velocity every time. Also, standard deviation of release velocity explains 92% of free throw variability and 77% of wide open three point variability among skilled shooters (from a single spot obviously, but I think this has fairly dramatic implications for both shooting projection and shooting training--almost 80% of wide open three point variance being explained by a single variable that you can basically learn directly from FT% is pretty shocking to me, at least, though it does explain why FT% is so highly predictive of 3P%).
They also have a followup paper which hinted at something interesting, which is that while optimal backspin axis, backspin, release point, and release angle all vary from person to person, only the latter two are actually easily observable--meaning systems like Noah that give players direct feedback on stuff that can't be noticed by the naked eye might lead to a new generation of significantly better shooters (I think it's notable that all the shooters at Kentucky, which had three guys shoot over 43% from three this year, apparently used it extensively). I don't think basketball has yet had the kinematics revolution baseball did where what used to be considered innate, unteachable talents became things that you people could train to do.
BTW I started looking this stuff up because I was struggling to understand why Jokic (a good but not amazing FT shooter) is so much better than Curry (one of the best FT shooters ever) from deep midrange but so much worse from three... obviously a lot of it is the high difficulty of even Curry's "wide open" midrange shots, but it's also clear Jokic just has better touch there and I'm not sure why. From these studies we know Curry clearly has superb velocity control, but his missed midrange shots (whether long or short) almost always seem to careen off the rim, while Jokic nearly always gets the friendly bounce.
tl;dr it's not the case that practiced players are worse at controlling the velocity of their shots when it's higher (e.g. when shooting threes) vs. closer to the basket (e.g. when shooting free throws), even though there's much more variability in high velocity releases. Apparently people are really good at dynamically modifying their release to hit the same velocity every time. Also, standard deviation of release velocity explains 92% of free throw variability and 77% of wide open three point variability among skilled shooters (from a single spot obviously, but I think this has fairly dramatic implications for both shooting projection and shooting training--almost 80% of wide open three point variance being explained by a single variable that you can basically learn directly from FT% is pretty shocking to me, at least, though it does explain why FT% is so highly predictive of 3P%).
They also have a followup paper which hinted at something interesting, which is that while optimal backspin axis, backspin, release point, and release angle all vary from person to person, only the latter two are actually easily observable--meaning systems like Noah that give players direct feedback on stuff that can't be noticed by the naked eye might lead to a new generation of significantly better shooters (I think it's notable that all the shooters at Kentucky, which had three guys shoot over 43% from three this year, apparently used it extensively). I don't think basketball has yet had the kinematics revolution baseball did where what used to be considered innate, unteachable talents became things that you people could train to do.
BTW I started looking this stuff up because I was struggling to understand why Jokic (a good but not amazing FT shooter) is so much better than Curry (one of the best FT shooters ever) from deep midrange but so much worse from three... obviously a lot of it is the high difficulty of even Curry's "wide open" midrange shots, but it's also clear Jokic just has better touch there and I'm not sure why. From these studies we know Curry clearly has superb velocity control, but his missed midrange shots (whether long or short) almost always seem to careen off the rim, while Jokic nearly always gets the friendly bounce.
Two thoughts to that:
1. At some point we'll see basketballs with the capability to gather metrics, which would add even more data to what you're describing
2. Jokic vs Curry can be explained by the fact that one jumps on their shots from the three and the other doesn't. Jokic's midrange numbers are stellar because it mimics his freethrow mechanic which doesn't translate to longer distances. Curry's mechanics are consistent everywhere on the floor.
1. At some point we'll see basketballs with the capability to gather metrics, which would add even more data to what you're describing
2. Jokic vs Curry can be explained by the fact that one jumps on their shots from the three and the other doesn't. Jokic's midrange numbers are stellar because it mimics his freethrow mechanic which doesn't translate to longer distances. Curry's mechanics are consistent everywhere on the floor.
Everybody has a different form and what works for them, you use some fundamentals as the bedrock but after that some kids just have a better feel for shooting than others and that translates at higher levels. It's hard to compare everything when everyone has a different form.
That NOAH system makes sense, at a low level just recording your shot in slow motion and breaking it down is the best way to build a jumper, it's what I did with my nephew. I kept telling him to load his wrist before he brought the ball up out of his shooting pocket, basically have his wrist ready at his hip and don't try to load it as the ball is moving up and keep it closer to your body if you want to shoot from further. Easiest way to tell him to keep his elbow in was just brush your ribs with your arm on the way up. Small changes like that have improved him dramatically as a shooter, I haven't worked with him much this summer, but as his freethrow percentage has gone up (we track that) his jumper is getting more consistent.
That NOAH system makes sense, at a low level just recording your shot in slow motion and breaking it down is the best way to build a jumper, it's what I did with my nephew. I kept telling him to load his wrist before he brought the ball up out of his shooting pocket, basically have his wrist ready at his hip and don't try to load it as the ball is moving up and keep it closer to your body if you want to shoot from further. Easiest way to tell him to keep his elbow in was just brush your ribs with your arm on the way up. Small changes like that have improved him dramatically as a shooter, I haven't worked with him much this summer, but as his freethrow percentage has gone up (we track that) his jumper is getting more consistent.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostEverybody has a different form and what works for them, you use some fundamentals as the bedrock but after that some kids just have a better feel for shooting than others and that translates at higher levels. It's hard to compare everything when everyone has a different form.What's interesting in these papers is that they basically argue consistent form doesn't matter that much, what mostly matters is whether you're good at imparting the exact right velocity to the ball and shooters who are good at that tend to be good at it across a bunch of different shot mechanics. i.e. what you're actually training when you try to improve FT% isn't shot form, it's knowing how to impart the correct speed to your shots (for a particular distance and shot angle), and that then translates to other shots with very different kinematic chains. Not that that's all of what constitutes shooting feel (it obviously isn't) but I was surprised by how much that one factor apparently explains. I guess it doesn't exactly say "form doesn't matter" (how do you know you have the right angle and release point?) but more that training touch with one kind of shot kind of translates to other types.
That NOAH system makes sense, at a low level just recording your shot in slow motion and breaking it down is the best way to build a jumper, it's what I did with my nephew. I kept telling him to load his wrist before he brought the ball up out of his shooting pocket, basically have his wrist ready at his hip and don't try to load it as the ball is moving up and keep it closer to your body if you want to shoot from further. Easiest way to tell him to keep his elbow in was just brush your ribs with your arm on the way up. Small changes like that have improved him dramatically as a shooter, I haven't worked with him much this summer, but as his freethrow percentage has gone up (we track that) his jumper is getting more consistent.
By reilo Go To PostTwo thoughts to that:You can judge for yourself, but at least on these deep midrange shots, I don't think that explains all of it. i.e. there are lots of reasons why I would subjectively consider Jokic's shots "easier" than Curry's, but it's also undeniable that he almost always gets a super friendly bounce and Curry virtually never does, and that IMO has to be related to their shot mechanics and not just consistency / easiness of the shots.
1. At some point we'll see basketballs with the capability to gather metrics, which would add even more data to what you're describing
2. Jokic vs Curry can be explained by the fact that one jumps on their shots from the three and the other doesn't. Jokic's midrange numbers are stellar because it mimics his freethrow mechanic which doesn't translate to longer distances. Curry's mechanics are consistent everywhere on the floor.
My current hypothesis is that Jokic's shot is optimized for "softness" (high release point, low velocity at the rim, high spin rate) and Curry's is optimized for margin of error at release (i.e. giving him more angular, and perhaps velocity, deviation margin of error on his shots by using a steeper approach angle, in exchange for losing that softness). But I'm not sure if that's actually consistent with their shot trajectories... and if Jokic's shot is better in the midrange in part because of his release strategy, the question then becomes whether Curry and other shooters should alter their shot mechanics when inside the arc. After all, if Curry is that good at controlling his release velocity, he probably doesn't really need that much margin of error close to the basket...
By Sharp Go To PostWhat's interesting in these papers is that they basically argue consistent form doesn't matter that much, what mostly matters is whether you're good at imparting the exact right velocity to the ball and shooters who are good at that tend to be good at it across a bunch of different shot mechanics. i.e. what you're actually training when you try to improve FT% isn't shot form, it's knowing how to impart the correct speed to your shots (for a particular distance and shot angle), and that then translates to other shots with very different kinematic chains. Not that that's all of what constitutes shooting feel (it obviously isn't) but I was surprised by how much that one factor apparently explains.
Consistent form is the only way you're gonna get the ball to leave the same speed every time though, if you have poor mechanics ie. elbow out it's gonna be harder to get the same results over and over again. Every shooter I know built up first from close, like 5 feet and in you spend hours just doing form shooting under the rim and then you move out as time goes on. A lot of these kinds of studies and stat breakdowns show you the results, and not the work that took to get them. Like, this little kid is going to be able to shoot from pretty much everywhere, his mechanics for his age are borderline perfect at 8.
If I saw a kid with a form like that playing I'd just assume his father plays basketball at a high level and he's going to be an elite shooter. And if I coached against him I'd tell my team to close out hard, cause he can shoot, just off his form alone.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostConsistent form is the only way you're gonna get the ball to leave the same speed every time though, if you have poor mechanics ie. elbow out it's gonna be harder to get the same results over and over again. Every shooter I know built up first from close, like 5 feet and in you spend hours just doing form shooting under the rim and then you move out as time goes on. A lot of these kinds of studies and stat breakdowns show you the results, and not the work that took to get them. Like, this little kid is going to be able to shoot from pretty much everywhere, his mechanics for his age are borderline perfect at 8.Yeah I was probably too broad when I said "shot form doesn't matter that much." But at the same time, I think the fact that as your nephew's FT% goes up his shot improves across all his jumpers (something you've mentioned in the past as well) suggests that improved velocity control does kinda translate across different types of jumpers, whatever the mechanical reason for that is. It seems like (from the author's explanation) players develop a feel for how fast the ball is going to go out of their hands and can make adjustments on the fly during the release if they realize they're going to be a little off.
If I saw a kid with a form like that playing I'd just assume his father plays basketball at a high level and he's going to be an elite shooter. And if I coached against him I'd tell my team to close out hard, cause he can shoot, just off his form alone.