By Pac-2 Go To PostIt's step three4) realizes inglewood is a shithole.
1) Ballmer buys the team
2) Builds massive new arena in LA
3) Updates branding
4) ???
5) Seattle!
By Kabro Go To Postthat looks like a boat.it is a boat. that's what a clipper is.
so is this the first step to moving the Clippers to Seattle?
By DiPro Go To Postit is a boat. that's what a clipper is.not according to oxford, Dip.
#1 says an instrument to cut hair.
And im sticking by that.
By Kabro Go To Postnot according to oxford, Dip.
#1 says an instrument to cut hair.
And im sticking by that.
It all went well until sy used the new logo upside down
By Sharp Go To PostIt's just funny to me that people are so eager to get a star around him that they're talking about trading all their upcoming first round picks for Trae. Not that Trae is bad or he wouldn't benefit from an All Star caliber PG, but with Tre Jones as the starter, point guard is probably their second-best position at the moment. What they really desperately need right now are role players who don't completely tank the lineup. That type of addition by subtraction is much easier (the Hornets just did it as "sellers" at the deadline, and there are a bunch of draft picks this year who project as competent NBA caliber role players) and won't lock them into expensive contracts that limit their flexibility going forward.
I actually think that is what their FO was trying to do when they picked players like Sochan, he was actually pretty good for a college freshman on low usage and he wasn't a terrible pick. But still a big whiff, the thing he was bad at was shooting and offball players who can't shoot have to be really amazing defensively to survive in the modern NBA. Definitely confusing why he went before Eason, but I think they were strongly prioritizing youth (which IMO is a mistake when looking for role players).
And yeah I think there is pretty clearly better talent on every other team outside of the star player. Would still probably rather be the Spurs than any of the teams you mentioned though, lol.
It's a weird one for me. Would you rather have one definite star player surrounded by a mess of dudes that probably aren't NBA players, or a few good players and a mess of wings that are "learn how to shoot 3s" away from being decent like the Blazers?
Last Blazer game was a disasterclass in how no shooting makes a team not a thing that should be on the floor like, at all.
TLDR you stick Wemby on the Blazers with everybody else and I'm wearing shades where the future is concerned but as it stands, Scoot and Shaedon have a ton of growing to do to become stars because neither of them are over 7' tall. With the Spurs, you gotta burn the whole damn team to the ground around Wemby to get anywhere. Not sure which is actually harder.
By Christberg Go To PostIt's a weird one for me. Would you rather have one definite star player surrounded by a mess of dudes that probably aren't NBA players, or a few good players and a mess of wings that are "learn how to shoot 3s" away from being decent like the Blazers?Depends on the star player... if by "star" you think he's going to be an ordinary All Star, I'd much rather be in the Blazers' position. But if you think he's going to be LeBron (which is pretty much how he's trending), then you probably you want to be in the Spurs' position. It all kind of depends on whether they can gather enough talent to make the team competitive before he gets frustrated and takes his talents to South Beach. That's why I think these next few offseasons are so critical for the Spurs.
Last Blazer game was a disasterclass in how no shooting makes a team not a thing that should be on the floor like, at all.
TLDR you stick Wemby on the Blazers with everybody else and I'm wearing shades where the future is concerned but as it stands, Scoot and Shaedon have a ton of growing to do to become stars because neither of them are over 7' tall. With the Spurs, you gotta burn the whole damn team to the ground around Wemby to get anywhere. Not sure which is actually harder.
I like the new Clippers branding
Granted, they’ve always had terrible branding since I started watching in 2001, and nothing will ever be as bad as the shit they have right now
But when I look at that logo, I just think of the Seattle Mariners
Granted, they’ve always had terrible branding since I started watching in 2001, and nothing will ever be as bad as the shit they have right now
But when I look at that logo, I just think of the Seattle Mariners
Weird how being a strong guy usually means you get fucked up on the court and never get calls and then you have Giannis who’s supposed to be a big strong guy but if you breathe on him it’s a flagrant 2
lol Giannis isn't even the problem -- I think he gets clobbered enough. It's guys like Luka who are legitimately 6'9 250 that you can't even look sideways on without a call. Dude is scary big and strong for a wing. Made worse yet by the fact that he plays slow af whereas at least Giannis and Zion are fucking dumb fast for their size so it's not totally shocking to me that some of those calls get missed in real time. To be clear, they shouldn't be missed, but I can at least see why.
By DY_nasty Go To Post @kibnerNot even the only example for him from that game. It is what it is.
Fun fact: out of all the top ten teams in SRS, there are only four semi full time starters who had a BPM worse than -2.5 in their sophomore year:
[*]Malik Beasly, -3.8 BPM his sophomore year. Career -1.1 BPM, had only one year with a positive BPM (0.1 in his third year). Terrible player who would not be a starter if the Bucks hadn't traded away all their depth. Bucks are also 10th in SRS so they are barely contenders.
[*]Kelly Oubre. -3.2 BPM his sophmore year. Career -1.8 BPM, no years with a BPM above -0.5. Terrible player who should not be starting and isn't even a full time starter on the Sixers. Sixers are 9th in SRS so they are barely contenders.
[*]Jaden McDaniels, -2.9 BPM his sophomore year. Starting for the Timberwolves for some reason. Never had a BPM above -1. Actually a little nuts that he is starting but I assume it's because of his contract and defense. In any case they would probably be better without him.
[*]Julius Randle, -3.2 BPM his sophomore year. Probably the only legit starter out of the four.
I bring this up because many people who are fans of bad teams comfort themselves by thinking the terrible sophomores on their teams are actually just experiencing growing pains and will contribute to a contending team someday. So... which sophomores on your team are below -2.5 BPM? (If you're a fan of the Spurs, Pistons, Blazers, Wizards, or Hornets, the answer is "all of them except Duren").
This backs up the fact I noticed earlier about star creators (outside of very exceptional cases, they tend to have positive BPMs by their second year, third at worst). If you're not good by year two in the NBA you are probably not going to be great, and if you're not at least bench player level by your second year you probably won't ever be a starter on a good team. GMs and coaches should probably be less patient with young players who were terrible after their first two years (like Jalen Green) than they currently are, especially when it comes to forcing them into the starting lineup when that likely will never be their long term role in the NBA.
[*]Malik Beasly, -3.8 BPM his sophomore year. Career -1.1 BPM, had only one year with a positive BPM (0.1 in his third year). Terrible player who would not be a starter if the Bucks hadn't traded away all their depth. Bucks are also 10th in SRS so they are barely contenders.
[*]Kelly Oubre. -3.2 BPM his sophmore year. Career -1.8 BPM, no years with a BPM above -0.5. Terrible player who should not be starting and isn't even a full time starter on the Sixers. Sixers are 9th in SRS so they are barely contenders.
[*]Jaden McDaniels, -2.9 BPM his sophomore year. Starting for the Timberwolves for some reason. Never had a BPM above -1. Actually a little nuts that he is starting but I assume it's because of his contract and defense. In any case they would probably be better without him.
[*]Julius Randle, -3.2 BPM his sophomore year. Probably the only legit starter out of the four.
I bring this up because many people who are fans of bad teams comfort themselves by thinking the terrible sophomores on their teams are actually just experiencing growing pains and will contribute to a contending team someday. So... which sophomores on your team are below -2.5 BPM? (If you're a fan of the Spurs, Pistons, Blazers, Wizards, or Hornets, the answer is "all of them except Duren").
This backs up the fact I noticed earlier about star creators (outside of very exceptional cases, they tend to have positive BPMs by their second year, third at worst). If you're not good by year two in the NBA you are probably not going to be great, and if you're not at least bench player level by your second year you probably won't ever be a starter on a good team. GMs and coaches should probably be less patient with young players who were terrible after their first two years (like Jalen Green) than they currently are, especially when it comes to forcing them into the starting lineup when that likely will never be their long term role in the NBA.
Lauri had a -0.2 BPM his second year, -0.6 his third.
I'm usually against the "they were just using him wrong" or "we can develop him" argument because it almost never works out, but I guess they worked in his case.
I'm usually against the "they were just using him wrong" or "we can develop him" argument because it almost never works out, but I guess they worked in his case.
By diehard Go To PostLauri had a -0.2 BPM his second year, -0.6 his third.Lauri's crazy leap at age 25 was extremely unusual, but there are definitely a handful of examples like that (DeMar DeRozan is another example, which is even weirder because he didn't even change teams). It's just not something you can usually count on. And both those guys were notably still hovering around 0 BPM before they made their leap. They weren't terrible, they were just mediocre at everything and had a sudden jump in an important skill when they changed roles because they were previously miscast as lower usage offball guys.
I'm usually against the "they were just using him wrong" or "we can develop him" argument because it almost never works out, but I guess they worked in his case.
For most of these bad sophomores the problem is the opposite, they are guys better suited to small supporting roles being asked to handle the ball or shoot way too much because the team is hoping desperately they can somehow be turned into a star that way (the point Sochan "experiment" earlier this year was a prime example of that).
By reilo Go To Post
They wasted no time, sheeeesh. Players must be quite happy.
Everyone said fuck no to more cold climates in Feb
Kid definitely earned and was not given all that ESPN publicity because he is good at basketball LeBron's son.
By Εspi Go To PostI like the new Clippers branding
Granted, they’ve always had terrible branding since I started watching in 2001, and nothing will ever be as bad as the shit they have right now
But when I look at that logo, I just think of the Seattle Mariners
They actually specifically added the ship to not get sued by the Mariners for using the compass.
By Pac-2 Go To PostKid definitely earned and was not given all that ESPN publicity because he isgood at basketballLeBron's son.
After Stanford blew out USC recently, half the game write up was about Bronny (who I don't think did much), and there was some mention of how Andrej Stojakovic had a career night. 0 mention of who his dad is though!
"Freshman Andrej Stojakovic scored a career-high 20 points on 8-of-12 shooting and made a season-high four 3s. Spencer Jones made 5 of 7 from behind the arc to finish with 15 points for Stanford (12-11, 7-6 Pac-12). Benny Gealer made four 3s and scored 14 points, both career highs, and Kanaan Carlyle added 10 points.
USC freshman Bronny James, son of NBA superstar LeBron James, made 2 of 7 from the field and finished with six points, three rebounds, three assists and a steal — which he took the other way for a two-hand dunk."
By masud Go To PostFull season stats.
Dy our boy is thriving!
By DY_nasty Go To Postlebron funny as fuck
By friskySHOOKface Go To PostKings back to washedthey making a good run ;)
Lol no Jimmy and losing
By pilonv1 Go To PostHe's somehow shooting 38% from three on that kind of shot selection BTW.
🤔
Also wow do a lot of 2023 picks this season have a positive or almost positive BPM... I count 9 only one of which is in tiny minutes. I think the number was only 3 for last year's draft class by the end of the year (admittedly Chet didn't play). Was 2023 just an unusually strong class like people were saying, or was 2022 unusually weak outside the OKC picks?
(If anyone's interested, the nine 2023 picks are: Leonard Miller at +7.8 [in 26 minutes so it's kind of fake, but still cool], Wemby at +3.8, Trayce Jackson-Davis at +2, Amen at +1.3, Cam at +0.8, Jalen Wilson at +0.0 [in 245 minutes so it's possibly fake], Cason Wallace at -0.1, Podz at -0.1, Dereck Lively at -0.2, with many of these guys likely to improve near the end of the season when people start resting starters. The three 2022 picks [by the end of last year, so not including Chet or Gui Santos's fake minutes this year} were: Walker Kessler +2.9, Jalen Williams +0.3, Mark Williams +0.1).
I tried asking about the class disparity on the NBA draft reddit and the only thing I learned is that Paolo "54 TS% and -9 on/off" Banchero has a remarkably rabid fanbase. That fake All Star selection was very bad for the discourse.
Edit: After doing a very casual version of the same exercise for 2021, 2023 might just be an all time great class. I would say "teams should have tanked more" but it seems like the whole class is just really good.
Edit: After doing a very casual version of the same exercise for 2021, 2023 might just be an all time great class. I would say "teams should have tanked more" but it seems like the whole class is just really good.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostNephews team plays a Brooklyn powerhouse charter school today, could be curtains on the season 😬good luck!