Remember that discussion we had regarding whether or not the gleague was better than a top tier NCAA program at preparing a young kid for the NBA?
I still have questions.
I still have questions.
By diehard Go To PostRemember that discussion we had regarding whether or not the gleague was better than a top tier NCAA program at preparing a young kid for the NBA?I don't really think the issue is necessarily the G League itself. Even including this year, there hasn't been a single G League Ignite player who I'd say was an above average player statistically in the G League. Their best player statistically ever to get drafted was probably like... Leonard Miller? Normally when people talk about the benefits of proving yourself by playing up against higher level competition, the implication is that you're holding your own or even dominating (like Wemby or Luka), not getting destroyed. If you chose some random D1 college team and decided to draft their top two players every year regardless of how they actually performed against top teams, your track record probably wouldn't look very good either. Sure, there are exceptions like Duke or Kentucky which pretty much always get the best talent available, but the G League Ignite never had that kind of pull, and probably has even less now that NIL deals are a thing.
I still have questions.
By Sharp Go To PostI don't really think the issue is necessarily the G League itself. Even including this year, there hasn't been a single G League Ignite player who I'd say was an above average player statistically in the G League. Their best player statistically ever to get drafted was probably like… Leonard Miller? Normally when people talk about the benefits of proving yourself by playing up against higher level competition, the implication is that you're holding your own or even dominating (like Wemby or Luka), not getting destroyed. If you chose some random D1 college team and decided to draft their top two players every year regardless of how they actually performed against top teams, your track record probably wouldn't look very good either. Sure, there are exceptions like Duke or Kentucky which pretty much always get the best talent available, but the G League Ignite never had that kind of pull, and probably has even less now that NIL deals are a thing.... and the bottom 50 of players by TS% tend to be the youngest players in the league. Categorically and historically teenage players are by and large bad -- especially at shooting.
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou ain't gotta be great just don't be the worst lolIt's his abysmal finishing at the rim that's dragging him down. His 3PT shooting has actually been about average on decent volume last two months.
By reilo Go To Post… and the bottom 50 of players by TS% tend to be the youngest players in the league. Categorically and historically teenage players are by and large bad – especially at shooting.Well yeah, Scoot is a pretty normal rookie being thrust into probably the worst situation possible for him, one that highlights his flaws and leaves very little room for his strengths to shine (and is obviously not this bad of a shooter). My point is that teams have been drafting G League Ignite players probably higher than their performance in the G League warranted and placing huge expectations on them as a result. If Scoot were like the #10 pick (where Kevin Pelton's draft model put him) and able to play off the bench more against the second string, he would look a lot better statistically and would also be under a lot less scrutiny, and be able to develop more naturally into his role.
By Sharp Go To PostWell yeah, Scoot is a pretty normal rookie being thrust into probably the worst situation possible for him, one that highlights his flaws and leaves very little room for his strengths to shine (and is obviously not this bad of a shooter).Yea with all their injuries and mix of few veterans that need the ball but a bunch of younger players that can't shoot and open the floor, this is spot-on. He's also playing off ball a lot next to Anfernee -- partly because Shaedon's been injured and partly because Anfernee knows how to run a pick and roll and is an elite 3PT shooter so he gets to run the offense.
Scoot should be coming off the bench and developing there. He'd still easily get 25-30mpg, too.
By reilo Go To PostIt's his abysmal finishing at the rim that's dragging him down. His 3PT shooting has actually been about average on decent volume last two months.that's the thing i don't get with him
and its clear he's thinking about too because he's halfstepping downhill causing everything else to go to shit instead of just hooping
By Sharp Go To PostWell yeah, Scoot is a pretty normal rookie being thrust into probably the worst situation possible for him, one that highlights his flaws and leaves very little room for his strengths to shine (and is obviously not this bad of a shooter). My point is that teams have been drafting G League Ignite players probably higher than their performance in the G League warranted and placing huge expectations on them as a result. If Scoot were like the #10 pick (where Kevin Pelton's draft model put him) and able to play off the bench more against the second string, he would look a lot better statistically and would also be under a lot less scrutiny, and be able to develop more naturally into his role.helllll no lmao
all around solid wing
portland's bigs all understand the assignment and aren't pretending to be post up gods while making the backcourt sit and wait
great guy to learn from in brogdon
two solid young guards in sharpe and simons
fucking chauncey billups - if he was good enough dame, he's good enough for scoot.
no
nah
By DY_nasty Go To Postthat's the thing i don't get with himBillups said it best: he's playing fast but not athletic. He's shown flashes. I just don't think he knows how to use his body yet. Also, with Portland collectively being awful offensively and a poor 3PT shooting team, that runway to the rim is almost non-existent play to play because that paint is PACKED. He's shown he's capable of figuring it out by driving into the heart of the defense but he hasn't learned to use his broad shoulders to create separation at the rim against larger defenders.
and its clear he's thinking about too because he's halfstepping downhill causing everything else to go to shit instead of just hooping
By reilo Go To PostBillups said it best: he's playing fast but not athletic. He's shown flashes. I just don't think he knows how to use his body yet. Also, with Portland collectively being awful offensively and a poor 3PT shooting team, that runway to the rim is almost non-existent play to play because that paint is PACKED. He's shown he's capable of figuring it out by driving into the heart of the defense but he hasn't learned to use his broad shoulders to create separation at the rim against larger defenders.
This is really what I see - he's having a pretty typical rookie point guard season similar to De'Aaron Fox but this team has had pretty much all its shooters out for the whole damn season so he's fighting an extra packed paint situation while he's at it.
He needs to learn how to do change of pace- finish through contact to really get to the level he needs to be at when it comes to rim finishing. Right now he really only understands how to full speed straight line drive even though his handle looks good and he's fast as hell.
They need to bring him off the bench with some guys that can shoot for it to work. They have the personnel to do that if they can ever get healthy but... sheesh.
The Blazers would be so much better if they'd just start a veteran lineup (Simons, Brogdon, Thybulle, Grant, Ayton) and let Scoot come off the bench as part of the 9 man with Reath, Walker and Camara while Shaedon is out.
But then this just illustrates the fact that the team has too many guards and desperately needs wings that can SHOOT.
the main reason his draft stock jumped was because of how much he was able to do in spite of spacing lol. the spacing isn't new, the speed of everything else is.
game is too fast for him right now. whether its staying on the floor or trying to split defenders with his mind halfway made up - its simple young PG in too deep shit. a guy built like that not able to finish at the rim is insanity either way.
game is too fast for him right now. whether its staying on the floor or trying to split defenders with his mind halfway made up - its simple young PG in too deep shit. a guy built like that not able to finish at the rim is insanity either way.
Masai doing it.
The Raptors and Pacers are actively engaged in trade talks centered around two-time All-Star forward Pascal Siakam that would send him to Indiana for a package that includes Bruce Brown Jr., other salaries and three first-round draft picks, league sources tell The Athletic.
By friskySHOOKface Go To PostGetting rid of Buddy and Bruce for Siakam would be a Wbruce is good.
By diehard Go To PostPhilly needs this one after last night
Not Koko's fault the Eagles couldn't beat Baker Mayfield.
Denver needs this one after that shit sandwich of a season.
By pilonv1 Go To PostNow let's see Joel do this in May
Biid will get hurt trying to Superman block in the first round and then mope through the second round again
Alex Len still being in the league is never not wild to me, especially when you look at that 2013 draft
By diehard Go To PostSuns about to have a losing record at homeThis is where it went wrong.
I apologize to any and all Kings fans.
By DY_nasty Go To PostNobody chokes like the kings holy fuck
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Bah gawd! That's Reggie Miller's music!
"Nobody chokes like the Kings, is it?
Ask Spike Lee about that."