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Anyone into journaling, note taking and/or scrapbooking? Bought a Traveler’s notebook a while back and love it. Prob going to buy some new inserts soon and get it really customized.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostAnyone into journaling, note taking and/or scrapbooking? Bought a Traveler’s notebook a while back and love it. Prob going to buy some new inserts soon and get it really customized.I sometimes write in a moleskin when I’m feeling particularly stressed. Helps me to communicate my feelings and thoughts and let things go.
Any religious people on here? I can’t bring this up with my wife and her family due to it being a recent event but I just can’t wrap my head around this
The answer to everything is prayer. Pray to god and he’ll make it happen. You need to pass your interview? Pray. Your baby won’t sleep at night? Pray. God heals all. All my wife’s uncles are pastors, you know, people who talk to god every day. One of her aunts just died from cancer.
My thing is, why do people continue to believe in this? You’re supposed to pray to him for help, and then if you get the “help” it’s cuz of prayer. If you didn’t get the help, well it had to happen
The answer to everything is prayer. Pray to god and he’ll make it happen. You need to pass your interview? Pray. Your baby won’t sleep at night? Pray. God heals all. All my wife’s uncles are pastors, you know, people who talk to god every day. One of her aunts just died from cancer.
My thing is, why do people continue to believe in this? You’re supposed to pray to him for help, and then if you get the “help” it’s cuz of prayer. If you didn’t get the help, well it had to happen
Faith...is a powerful thing. For a lot of people in a cold and hostile world. Its a light in the darkness.
I know some family members who use it as fuel to keep themselves going. For people in dire situations it's pretty much all they have.
I know some family members who use it as fuel to keep themselves going. For people in dire situations it's pretty much all they have.
By Rob Go To PostYou’re supposed to pray to him for help, and then if you get the “help” it’s cuz of prayer. If you didn’t get the help, well it had to happen
I'm religious in that I believe in the Catholic God. But not enough for me to go to church every week. I pray to him every night (which is honestly more like a conversation and is similar to meditation and self-reflection, in nature).
My beliefs were mostly founded because of something that happened in either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grade at my CCD class (once a week Catechism meant for teaching Catholic values to kids). The teacher was talking about how it is a requirement to believe in God to avoid going to hell. I started crying and asking if that meant the Good Samaritan was going to hell because he absolutely did not believe in the Catholic God, but was the kind of person we should strive to be.
The teacher was unable to console me and eventually had to go get church's priest. The priest explained to me that anyone who lived a life exemplifying Jesus' virtues would make it to heaven (though may require longer in purgatory to cleanse them of sin). That got me to calm down and changed my whole outlook on life and religion.
A CCD class in high school clarified what it meant to be a good person when explaining that there is one commandment above all others: love your neighbor as you love yourself. They went into more detail, but I interpreted it as treat people with kindness, respect, and empathy no matter their beliefs, lifestyle, etc.
So, yeah, every night before bed, I reflect on my actions of that day and if they were something that fit the values that I try to live by. I also spend a few moments thinking about what is coming up the next day and if there is anything that I know will be troublesome and think about how I will steel myself to act in the way I feel best reflects who I want to be.
My beliefs were mostly founded because of something that happened in either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grade at my CCD class (once a week Catechism meant for teaching Catholic values to kids). The teacher was talking about how it is a requirement to believe in God to avoid going to hell. I started crying and asking if that meant the Good Samaritan was going to hell because he absolutely did not believe in the Catholic God, but was the kind of person we should strive to be.
The teacher was unable to console me and eventually had to go get church's priest. The priest explained to me that anyone who lived a life exemplifying Jesus' virtues would make it to heaven (though may require longer in purgatory to cleanse them of sin). That got me to calm down and changed my whole outlook on life and religion.
A CCD class in high school clarified what it meant to be a good person when explaining that there is one commandment above all others: love your neighbor as you love yourself. They went into more detail, but I interpreted it as treat people with kindness, respect, and empathy no matter their beliefs, lifestyle, etc.
So, yeah, every night before bed, I reflect on my actions of that day and if they were something that fit the values that I try to live by. I also spend a few moments thinking about what is coming up the next day and if there is anything that I know will be troublesome and think about how I will steel myself to act in the way I feel best reflects who I want to be.
I used to be a pretty religious. So like.... for many people, the most powerful thing you can do for another person is to pray on their behalf. And beyond that, 'purpose' helps ease a lot of anxiety and unease on things. "I did my best, whatever happens happens" and "I did my best and prayed on it, whatever happens happens" are the same mental pathway to me.
Its not something worth wrestling over at all imo. Accept the gesture and wait for whoever to get back to the table to continue planning out what needs doing. If someone isn't contributing to their own wellbeing/being an active part of their rescue/neglects their duties and responsibilities specifically because 'god will handle it' though, that's on them for deliberately pushing away opportunities, resources, and their own role in whatever greater process at work.
Its not something worth wrestling over at all imo. Accept the gesture and wait for whoever to get back to the table to continue planning out what needs doing. If someone isn't contributing to their own wellbeing/being an active part of their rescue/neglects their duties and responsibilities specifically because 'god will handle it' though, that's on them for deliberately pushing away opportunities, resources, and their own role in whatever greater process at work.
By Rob Go To PostAny religious people on here? I can’t bring this up with my wife and her family due to it being a recent event but I just can’t wrap my head around this
The answer to everything is prayer. Pray to god and he’ll make it happen. You need to pass your interview? Pray. Your baby won’t sleep at night? Pray. God heals all. All my wife’s uncles are pastors, you know, people who talk to god every day. One of her aunts just died from cancer.
My thing is, why do people continue to believe in this? You’re supposed to pray to him for help, and then if you get the “help” it’s cuz of prayer. If you didn’t get the help, well it had to happen
I’m in the same boat as you
I went to my friends funeral yesterday and while I knew he was religious I didn’t really know the depth of it. How deeply he was involved in mentoring and youth services, So many people came out for him, at least 1000 people it was really beautiful.
But being around it yesterday for the first time in about 15 years, a lot of the ways he would try to motivate me made a deeper sense. He’d always say some variation of “it’s not enough to just be strong you have to believe” and I always took it as more of a self confidence thing. But now I see he actually believed the lord was with him every step of the way.
It was equally inspiring and awkward as all hell to be immersed in it. Some of the rhetoric at the funeral put a bit of a sour taste in my mouth because I think it’s all bullshit tbh.
I’ll never get it personally but I won’t begrudge those that do 🤷🏿♂️
Whatever keeps you moving forward in tough times, more power to you
Yeah, funerals in particular is what got me to step away from organized religion... because its clear that some people substitute the value or quality of a person as some inherent thing that God provides everyone.
No - that guy wasn't great because he was Christian. It was a part of who he was, but its not what made him such an impactful figure in so many lives. Its very hard for me to stick around for funerals as its often part of the service. "He was one of us :wow:" nah he was a fucking rockstar yal just have the same shirt.
I have to just mentally lock-in on why I'm around for certain events.
No - that guy wasn't great because he was Christian. It was a part of who he was, but its not what made him such an impactful figure in so many lives. Its very hard for me to stick around for funerals as its often part of the service. "He was one of us :wow:" nah he was a fucking rockstar yal just have the same shirt.
I have to just mentally lock-in on why I'm around for certain events.
By Lego Go To PostI couldn't be with a religious person personallyIt’s not so bad, as long as you talk about it.
When we were dating I told her I will never believe in him. She’s free to believe what she wants and I’ll never try to change her beliefs, but I expect the same courtesy. We’ve been good for five years.
Then it turned to any future kids, and I told her still, I was fine with it. Take them to church, whatever. However, the moment they say they don’t believe in it, then don’t force them like you wouldn’t force me.
Life is hard and whatever helps people get through it without negative affecting others doesn’t bother me.
By Kibner Go To PostA CCD class in high school clarified what it meant to be a good person when explaining that there is one commandment above all others: love your neighbor as you love yourself. They went into more detail, but I interpreted it as treat people with kindness, respect, and empathy no matter their beliefs, lifestyle, etc.But this doesn’t require believing in God. This is how I’ve always lived my life.
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Part of the Lord's will
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By C4-621 Go To PostThe lack of apostrophe is killing me
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThe lack of apostrophe is killing meYou a monotheist m8?
I was always struck by, similar to what Rob mentioned, the lack of curiosity and a general anti-intellectualism which was my experience of Catholicism.
Don't question anything, just learn and regurgitate the dogma. Even going to Mass, you just stand there and repeat the prayers in a zombie-like fashion.
Don't question anything, just learn and regurgitate the dogma. Even going to Mass, you just stand there and repeat the prayers in a zombie-like fashion.
By Rob Go To PostBut this doesn’t require believing in God. This is how I’ve always lived my life.I agree! That’s why I don’t attempt to force my religious beliefs on anyone! If they good, they good.
By Punished Go To PostI was always struck by, similar to what Rob mentioned, the lack of curiosity and a general anti-intellectualism which was my experience of Catholicism.Yeah, always put me to sleep. The music was the only decent part.
Don't question anything, just learn and regurgitate the dogma. Even going to Mass, you just stand there and repeat the prayers in a zombie-like fashion.
There were certain sermons where I learned something, but more where I disagreed with what was being preached. That was a large reason why I stopped going to church. The leaders kept outing themselves for lacking compassion or empathy.
One of the bigger things that irk me is people thinking the words in the Bible are literally the words of God, exactly as he wants them. They either fail to understand or just ignore that these texts have been translated, hand copied, and interpreted by man, who is imminently fallible, even when directly told by God very specific things to do. There are plenty of stories in the texts showing just that!
Not to mention you have to interpret a lot of these stories based on the time period they were written in and what was going on in that region of the world as well as any other context that might be needed to fully understand what was written.
Not to mention you have to interpret a lot of these stories based on the time period they were written in and what was going on in that region of the world as well as any other context that might be needed to fully understand what was written.
I was raised Catholic. Dad did the whole lets get you personalized lessons with a preacher for my sister and I thing, too. Not sure why.
But it never really made sense on the whole. My mom's side and all that is Muslim, but her father never truly raised her that way. Again, don't really know why.
It wasn't really a failing of my parents but when a kid asks the "why" questions and the responses are "because god willing" or "god will punish you", it never felt satisfactory and lot of that I find was cultural / institutional. "It's just the way it is."
And even as a kid I just could never grasp that answer because to this day I have a deep / stubborn innate desire to understand the why behind it all, and I think that eventually pushed me away from religion.
In the end if I were to boil it down it would probably be a mix of the lack of "why" and the "purpose" behind it.
Plus the Catholic Church and the whole pedophelia cover up but lets not get into that lmao
But it never really made sense on the whole. My mom's side and all that is Muslim, but her father never truly raised her that way. Again, don't really know why.
It wasn't really a failing of my parents but when a kid asks the "why" questions and the responses are "because god willing" or "god will punish you", it never felt satisfactory and lot of that I find was cultural / institutional. "It's just the way it is."
And even as a kid I just could never grasp that answer because to this day I have a deep / stubborn innate desire to understand the why behind it all, and I think that eventually pushed me away from religion.
In the end if I were to boil it down it would probably be a mix of the lack of "why" and the "purpose" behind it.
Plus the Catholic Church and the whole pedophelia cover up but lets not get into that lmao
I think even if you have belief, the idea of any God requiring big places of worship or tributes etc seems such a human understanding of a God that no organized religion really feels right, it all is a bunch of things from when humans needed some way to convince others to join their community
By Perfect Blue Go To PostAnyone into journaling, note taking and/or scrapbooking? Bought a Traveler’s notebook a while back and love it. Prob going to buy some new inserts soon and get it really customized.
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By Rob Go To PostAny religious people on here? I can’t bring this up with my wife and her family due to it being a recent event but I just can’t wrap my head around this
The answer to everything is prayer. Pray to god and he’ll make it happen. You need to pass your interview? Pray. Your baby won’t sleep at night? Pray. God heals all. All my wife’s uncles are pastors, you know, people who talk to god every day. One of her aunts just died from cancer.
My thing is, why do people continue to believe in this? You’re supposed to pray to him for help, and then if you get the “help” it’s cuz of prayer. If you didn’t get the help, well it had to happen
Because there's enough good in everyone's life to attribute it God (the very fact your breathing) and I don't think prayer is as binary as ask and recieve.
I really dislike discussing controversial or existential topics, you've all been super respectful really, but one side if not both will always end up feeling a little bit bad
I don't mind it at all long as people allow for nuance. Someone's personal relationship with god is their business, the real issue is it just generally doesn't stay that way. When something bad happens to me or a friend the last thing I ever want to hear is "it's part of god's plan."
true!
But it doesnt upset me, when someone says that to me its mostly in good faith, they're telling me what works for them, you know? Or that was at least my experience.
Kind of like Batong telling me to get up (😫) and do yoga whenever I face a slight inconvenience in life lmaoo. And I fucking love him for it
But it doesnt upset me, when someone says that to me its mostly in good faith, they're telling me what works for them, you know? Or that was at least my experience.
Kind of like Batong telling me to get up (😫) and do yoga whenever I face a slight inconvenience in life lmaoo. And I fucking love him for it
A few months ago, I actually went and withdrew my 'membership' of the Danish church. Something you are automatically, until you say you don't want to be any longer. Didn't care too much about being a member like, but I also do not care about not being part of it... and if 1% of my high taxes goes to that a year... I will rather save that.
I'm thankful to never have heard something like that, outside of a few weirdo protestors (like outside of a metal festival, yelling at everyone they are going to hell... Which they were, the festival was called Copenhell).
Don't think anyone I ever worked with here, or the ones I went to school with were religious. Had a kid immigrate from Iraq when I did go to school, and I did se his dad pray, but... That was kind of it. They even celebrated some of the official Christian holidays, just cause they liked being part of the local society.
People enjoy the traditions of some of the Christian holiday though, mostly Christmas, but before going to live with a family in the US for a few months as a student, I had never seen anyone do a prayer before they ate. A bit of a culture shock tbh.
By i can get you a toe Go To PostWhen something bad happens to me or a friend the last thing I ever want to hear is "it's part of god's plan."
I'm thankful to never have heard something like that, outside of a few weirdo protestors (like outside of a metal festival, yelling at everyone they are going to hell... Which they were, the festival was called Copenhell).
Don't think anyone I ever worked with here, or the ones I went to school with were religious. Had a kid immigrate from Iraq when I did go to school, and I did se his dad pray, but... That was kind of it. They even celebrated some of the official Christian holidays, just cause they liked being part of the local society.
People enjoy the traditions of some of the Christian holiday though, mostly Christmas, but before going to live with a family in the US for a few months as a student, I had never seen anyone do a prayer before they ate. A bit of a culture shock tbh.
I heard it but the once, it was not directed at me but it was their own family member so I just seethed on the inside then funneled my frustration into offering said friend more support.
By C4-621 Go To PostI really dislike discussing controversial or existential topics, you've all been super respectful really, but one side if not both will always end up feeling a little bit badthe philosophical under-pinnings of existential topics are the best discussions imo.
I'm here for the collision between
"Bless this food for the nourishment of our bodies and our bodies for thy service..."
and
"Sometimes the answer to a prayer is 'no.'"
"Bless this food for the nourishment of our bodies and our bodies for thy service..."
and
"Sometimes the answer to a prayer is 'no.'"
By Daz Go To Postthe philosophical under-pinnings of existential topics are the best discussions imo.Oh for sure, I'm just too soft really lmao.
I generally don't like the institutions for reasons but there hasn't really been a great replacement for what a religious community can provide. Someone close to you dies, they know, and you got food and support for days or even weeks. With how isolated we all are it's harder to find such things in the secular world ngl.
By Pac-12 Go To PostI'm here for the collision betweenYou have seen things lmao
"Bless this food for the nourishment of our bodies and our bodies for thy service…"
and
"Sometimes the answer to a prayer is 'no.'"
By Pac-12 Go To Post"Sometimes the answer to a prayer is 'no.'"This is a way better than “gods plan”
I have no spirituality whatsoever, so seeing someone have a religious moment for the first time in my life earlier this year was a bit bewildering.
Was glad the question of faith never came up between me/my mum and my aunt, talked a bit about it with my cousin but her beliefs are more fluid than what fits into the church's doctrine as far as I can tell.
Which is why I was a bit bemused when she foisted a bible and a book about how Christianity and science can coexist on the morning of my departure. 99% sure it was my aunt who asked her to do that.
Was glad the question of faith never came up between me/my mum and my aunt, talked a bit about it with my cousin but her beliefs are more fluid than what fits into the church's doctrine as far as I can tell.
Which is why I was a bit bemused when she foisted a bible and a book about how Christianity and science can coexist on the morning of my departure. 99% sure it was my aunt who asked her to do that.
By i can get you a toe Go To PostI generally don't like the institutions for reasons but there hasn't really been a great replacement for what a religious community can provide. Someone close to you dies, they know, and you got food and support for days or even weeks. With how isolated we all are it's harder to find such things in the secular world ngl.Yeah it was very eye-opening to see how solid the relationships were between everyone my cousin went to church with. I assumed it'd just be turn up, give condolences, leave, but it genuinely seemed like a giant web of friends rather than people who just had a common belief.
I wish I had something like that in my life tbh. Not to mention the networking opportunities 🌝
I started a documentary on megachurches and their millionaire preachers and felt physically sick. Only made it 30 minutes before having to go for a walk.
I hate to get too pro organized religion all at once but there is a gigantic amount of charity and volunteer heavy lifting from most churches. Megachurches sit between major nation-state institutions and everything else. A very, very small part of the pie and a significant amount are mislabeled as such as well.
that shit is not making the horrormentary algorithm or getting a hallmark movie either. literally every natural disaster, strike, food shortage, refugee crisis, etc - a group of churches is organizing ground level give a fuck before a governor is even aware. it may not be perfect, but even with a plague going on you can count on a food drive. hell, the only reason seniors in many communities even continue to develop new skills is because someone in a church decided to care 😂 I can even say on good authority that the first group to demand investigations into nursing homes and foster care comes from a church too
no other major body consistently present in smaller communities has proven to show up for shit more than the church. some folks think that's a bad thing - but I'm never gonna be mad that I know where to start when shit hits the fan again.
that shit is not making the horrormentary algorithm or getting a hallmark movie either. literally every natural disaster, strike, food shortage, refugee crisis, etc - a group of churches is organizing ground level give a fuck before a governor is even aware. it may not be perfect, but even with a plague going on you can count on a food drive. hell, the only reason seniors in many communities even continue to develop new skills is because someone in a church decided to care 😂 I can even say on good authority that the first group to demand investigations into nursing homes and foster care comes from a church too
no other major body consistently present in smaller communities has proven to show up for shit more than the church. some folks think that's a bad thing - but I'm never gonna be mad that I know where to start when shit hits the fan again.
It's also different from community to community.
How Koreans run their churches and organize their local community is it's own thing, too.
How Koreans run their churches and organize their local community is it's own thing, too.
By Daz Go To PostI started a documentary on megachurches and their millionaire preachers and felt physically sick. Only made it 30 minutes before having to go for a walk.
I can only imagine. As a PK son (sure DY can attest this too) you just come to the realise humans guna human man no matter what the cause is. The stuff you hear see in boardmeetings, the scams, the self interest... I think anytime human comes together you'll get these issues. But in the same breath...
By DY_nasty Go To PostI hate to get too pro organized religion all at once but there is a gigantic amount of charity and volunteer heavy lifting from most churches. Megachurches sit between major nation-state institutions and everything else. A very, very small part of the pie and a significant amount are mislabeled as such as well.
that shit is not making the horrormentary algorithm or getting a hallmark movie either. literally every natural disaster, strike, food shortage, refugee crisis, etc - a group of churches is organizing ground level give a fuck before a governor is even aware. it may not be perfect, but even with a plague going on you can count on a food drive. hell, the only reason seniors in many communities even continue to develop new skills is because someone in a church decided to care 😂 I can even say on good authority that the first group to demand investigations into nursing homes and foster care comes from a church too
no other major body consistently present in smaller communities has proven to show up for shit more than the church. some folks think that's a bad thing - but I'm never gonna be mad that I know where to start when shit hits the fan again.
Totally agree, even if you don't believe in the relgion (which I dont cus my shit was cult like lmao) the church does soooooooooooooooooo much good, on a micro level, too many to write, from giving with no hope something to believe in is worth the fee in sins. I know that's a horrific thing to say but I think it might be true.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThe lack of apostrophe is killing meI think you meant Apostles.