By NiceGuy Go To PostFeels like much more of a missed opportunity than 2018, that France would have comfortably beaten us in the final. Think we'd have been favourites for the tournament if we'd won yesterday.Shit forgot they lost it at home while playing the majority of the games in England…. 💀
2020 hurt but the Euros just don't really personally register in significance when compared to the World Cup, though it would obviously have been huge for England to win a proper tournament, and at Wembley. You don't get many chances to do that.
By n8 dogg Go To PostCaptain one of those things the British seem to care about way too fuckin’ much
Yeah it really doesn't matter in football very much, tokenistic to an extent. It's nae cricket. Captains aren't always the leaders in football, you need leaders on the pitch...you don't need a captain.
By cashman Go To PostHarry Kane has never won a professional football competition in his life. Why is that guy captainhe is a true big baller
By n8 dogg Go To PostCaptain one of those things the British seem to care about way too fuckin’ mucheh, it's still meaningful around here too.
Captains in football are not the same as in a sport like rugby where the captain actually has a job of talking to the ref and controlling his team mates basically
In football it's more like
- player wears captain armband
- he chooses heads or tails at the start
In football it's more like
- player wears captain armband
- he chooses heads or tails at the start
A lot of Liverpool fans complain online about Henderson not being made captain, but not being captain for England had no impact on him ordering the rest of the England squad around whenever he was on the pitch. Southgate probably doesn't care that much
By FootbalIFan Go To PostCaptains in football are not the same as in a sport like rugby where the captain actually has a job of talking to the ref and controlling his team mates basicallydepends on the team and country I suppose, that is still the role of a captain in portugal. I imagine italy too.
In football it's more like
- player wears captain armband
- he chooses heads or tails at the start
this is why otamendi is captain. even tho someone needs to control otamendi most of the time because he has a temper. which I LOVE anyway,
By Newton, The Inventor of Gravity Go To Postdepends on the team and country I suppose, that is still the role of a captain in portugal. I imagine italy too.Yeah, maybe you're misunderstanding or I didn't describe it well but I mean for example if Ramos was made your captain, Otamendi could still do exactly what he is currently doing despite not having the armband. (Basically what sohois is saying about Henderson above)
this is why otamendi is captain. even tho someone needs to control otamendi most of the time because he has a temper. which I LOVE anyway,
By FootbalIFan Go To PostYeah, maybe you're misunderstanding or I didn't describe it well but I mean for example if Ramos was made your captain, Otamendi could still do exactly what he is currently doing despite not having the armband. (Basically what sohois is saying about Henderson above)
Yeah, most teams are going to have multiple leaders that do that. Only one can have the armband. It doesn't matter at all.
I mean, Lascelles is still the club captain for us and he's started two league games all season (despite being fit). Trippier is the leader on the pitch, he doesn't need an armband to get respect.
By FootbalIFan Go To PostYeah, maybe you're misunderstanding or I didn't describe it well but I mean for example if Ramos was made your captain, Otamendi could still do exactly what he is currently doing despite not having the armband. (Basically what sohois is saying about Henderson above)yeah he could, but usually we pick the player based on his role for the team. otamendi was made captain 3 games into his tenure. rúben dias was captain at 21 or something. the reason is precisely that.
if we don't have a grinta motivational player in the squad we then choose based on longevity at the club, which is stupid.
I despise that soft cunt luisão but he was pretty good at playing the role and taking care of younger kids and new arrivals, which also weighs in on the decision.
By HEARCOMESTHEPAIN Go To PostShit forgot they lost it at home while playing the majority of the games in England…. 💀
💀
May Southgate stay forever. Most of UK Papanguer in here seems happy enough with him.
Last team to win a home WC or Euros was France 98.
Before that:
Argentina 78
Germany 74
England 66
Italy 34
Uruguay 30
France 84
Italy 68
Spain 64
Losing in Wembley isn’t a big deal, really. Losing playing poorly was.
Before that:
Argentina 78
Germany 74
England 66
Italy 34
Uruguay 30
France 84
Italy 68
Spain 64
Losing in Wembley isn’t a big deal, really. Losing playing poorly was.
best captain armband 11:
kahn
maldini
baresi
hierro
puyol
beckenbauer
roy keane
cruyff
maradona
totti
vieira
don't @ me
kahn
maldini
baresi
hierro
puyol
beckenbauer
roy keane
cruyff
maradona
totti
vieira
don't @ me
List of teams you’d expect to be in with a chance that haven’t won finals at home:
England (2020, 1996), France (2016, 1960, 1938), Brazil (2014, 1950), Germany (2006, 1988), Portugal (2004), Netherlands (2000), Italy (1990, 1980), Spain (1982)
England (2020, 1996), France (2016, 1960, 1938), Brazil (2014, 1950), Germany (2006, 1988), Portugal (2004), Netherlands (2000), Italy (1990, 1980), Spain (1982)
I realise that came off as an extreme defence of Southgate’s boys lol
was just interested myself. Thought i’d share my minutes of extensive research
was just interested myself. Thought i’d share my minutes of extensive research
was watching the wc 2002 final the other day.
german football used to be so horrific. the way these lads pass and cross doesn’t even look right.
german football used to be so horrific. the way these lads pass and cross doesn’t even look right.
germany was embarrassed
then they started HEAVILY investing in football research and academies.
incredible.
now brazil is embarassing.
then they started HEAVILY investing in football research and academies.
incredible.
now brazil is embarassing.
By n8 dogg Go To PostList of teams you’d expect to be in with a chance that haven’t won finals at home:
England (2020, 1996), France (2016, 1960, 1938), Brazil (2014, 1950), Germany (2006, 1988), Portugal (2004), Netherlands (2000), Italy (1990, 1980), Spain (1982)
netherlands 2000
one of the goat penalties imho
Football WAS horrific. There’d be the odd artist from bygone days - your Bests and Eusebios and Maradonas - but the quality of football is a thousand times better now than even twenty years ago.
n8: things get better as they evolve
truly the brother of dean
football quality is better, not sure the players are better tbh. either that or the really good ones are all insufferable cunts that dive and cry all the time.
Captain really doesn't matter. Southgate could have made Grealish captain this WC and it wouldn't have changed anything.
By Newton, The Inventor of Gravity Go To Posttruly the brother of dean
football quality is better, not sure the players are better tbh. either that or the good ones are all insufferable cunts that dive and cry all the time.
I’m not arguing ‘things get better as they evolve’ because that leaves room for interpretation that football was good and now it’s better.
Football was shit. Now it’s good. Trying to watch any game from before about 1987 is a real labour of love.
By BlindCom Go To PostCaptain really doesn't matter. Southgate could have made Grealish captain this WC and it wouldn't have changed anything.
i don’t think there’s a better captain than kane in this squad.
Henderson is a PL and CL winning captain, so I’d argue him. But then I don’t think it matters at all anyway.
By n8 dogg Go To PostI’m not arguing ‘things get better as they evolve’ because that leaves room for interpretation that football was good and now it’s better.I'd rather watch some 2001 serie A than current day ligue 1 tho. ngl.
Football was shit. Now it’s good. Trying to watch any game from before about 1987 is a real labour of love.
I 100% believe captains matter.
Gallas as captain cost us a league title.
Switch him out with Tony Adams and we would have won the league.
Gallas as captain cost us a league title.
Switch him out with Tony Adams and we would have won the league.
By bud Go To Postwas watching the wc 2002 final the other day.These times manager almost didn't matter, we could nick our way to the title simply by individual brillances.
german football used to be so horrific. the way these lads pass and cross doesn’t even look right.
Once they became an important part in international tournaments, we died. We don't have them. Cuntite is still, by far, our better one. Cunt has the easiest job in the world, does nothing for most part of the year and can't even speak English. Hilarious.
It's embarrassing seeing him using the translator for questions in English. For a man in his position, at least understanding English should be a requirement.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostMonday lads. My last day of doing work for the year.
By DiPro Go To Posttwo more day for me. and then i'm going to loser country (brexit) to enjoy the rest of the year.
Let me stop you right there
By DiPro Go To Posttwo more day for me. and then i'm going to loser country (brexit) to enjoy the rest of the year.
By Willkiller Go To PostLet me stop you right therewhy? eating a nice shepherd's pie while watching france bring it home for the third time in 24 years is going to be lovely.
By DiPro Go To Posttwo more day for me. and then i'm going to loser country (brexit) to enjoy the rest of the year.
By n8 dogg Go To PostI’m not arguing ‘things get better as they evolve’ because that leaves room for interpretation that football was good and now it’s better.You should try watch some of the 1970 world cup matches, good entertainment
Football was shit. Now it’s good. Trying to watch any game from before about 1987 is a real labour of love.