By masud Go To PostKeep Dame, whatever. But trading that pick would be unfathomably stupid.
They're probably looking at the Warriors and how badly their two timeline thing went.
Dame getting a little aggy?
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThey're probably looking at the Warriors and how badly their two timeline thing went.They're not the Warriors though. The Warriors should have traded the picks. The fact that they fucked up that situation and still won a chip is proof of that.
By masud Go To PostKeep Dame, whatever. But trading that pick would be unfathomably stupid.For what? To be maybe competitive in 5-7 years? lmao
Are we 100% sure that pick will pan out? ARE we?
You might get Michael Jordan at #3
Or you might get RJ Barrett
The latter is more likely, no thanks
By DY_nasty Go To PostBuilding a team around the mileage time bomb that is Embiid and Dame is insanity
Better than Bron and AD *shrug. Doable as long as you don't give up too much (like the Lakers have) I'd say.
And yeah, the 2 timelines thing is dumb and doesn't really work most of the time. Messes up team chemistry because the age gap is too damn big. Same reason you don't marry someone when you're old enough to be their parent.
By masud Go To PostThey're not the Warriors though. The Warriors should have traded the picks. The fact that they fucked up that situation and still won a chip is proof of that.This I agree on. Warriors should've 100% traded their picks. In fact, it's why I'm adamant Portland should, too. Get proven players that aren't past the age of 30.
"Twilight" years -- the dude just had his best year as a pro
I'd rather win with Dame next 2-3 years than hope that we might win with some young dude that can't legally drink in 5-8 years from now
The window is MAD short and I get that but with Dame at this level is still your best shot at winning it all -- but again, the rest of the pieces have to fall in and they have the assets now to do that.
I'd rather win with Dame next 2-3 years than hope that we might win with some young dude that can't legally drink in 5-8 years from now
The window is MAD short and I get that but with Dame at this level is still your best shot at winning it all -- but again, the rest of the pieces have to fall in and they have the assets now to do that.
By masud Go To PostAre you sure trying to cobble together a contender around Dame's twilight years is gonna pan out?It's at least more likely than punting on being competitive and hopefully be in a better situation like 4-5 years from now.
By masud Go To PostAre you sure trying to cobble together a contender around Dame's twilight years is gonna pan out?
Personally, no. But I'm 100% sure trading him results in an absolute minimum of 5-6 years of having a trash team, and I'm pretty damn sure they can get back to being a competitive team you can root for at least another 3-4 without too much trouble.
His best year doing sideshow shit 😂 yal make it sound like the blazers tanked last second like Dallas
The fact Portland couldn't even keep pace with the Wolves or Pels speaks for itself.
The fact Portland couldn't even keep pace with the Wolves or Pels speaks for itself.
By DY_nasty Go To PostHis best year doing sideshow shit 😂 yal make it sound like the blazers tanked last second like DallasThey couldn't field a healthy starting 5 to save their life. We also had to deal with Second Year Hart. They were also crazy young in every backup spot. Fielding a bunch of 19 year olds to step into the 6th through 9th man roles.
The fact Portland couldn't even keep pace with the Wolves or Pels speaks for itself.
And yes, they need to get healthier with the players they do acquire.
Miller and Henderson have franchise player potential, both would be number one picks in many draft classes. It's not guaranteed but you don't pass on that kind of opportunity unless you have a clear path to a title.
I don't see anything the Blazers could get for their assets that would make them one of the top three or four teams in the league before Dame starts breaking down. Could it happen? Sure, but I think there are better odds that there's a franchise player sitting there at 3 in this draft.
Let me get this straight:
The player they select at #3 is a franchise altering cornerstone
AND SIMULTANEOUSLY they cannot get any established player of value for that type of pick value?
Make it make sense
The player they select at #3 is a franchise altering cornerstone
AND SIMULTANEOUSLY they cannot get any established player of value for that type of pick value?
Make it make sense
By reilo Go To PostLet me get this straight:
The player they select at #3 is a franchise altering cornerstone
AND SIMULTANEOUSLY they cannot get any established player of value for that type of pick value?
Make it make sense
I think it's more or less cause what could be traded isn't really impactful players. KAT, LaVine, Siakam, OG etc aren't putting them over the edge, they just in a rough spot cause the trade market got a gang of meh guys who are good but not great. Embiid is the only real big shifter and he's made of glass plus odds are he stays in Philly.
The #3 has higher value than any of those dudes. Don't read the tabloids.
In fact, I'll be pissed if #3 gets traded for OG. That's an overpay. OG is worth 2 lottery protected FRPs at best.
In fact, I'll be pissed if #3 gets traded for OG. That's an overpay. OG is worth 2 lottery protected FRPs at best.
With the new CBA coming into the fold, there's also going to be CHAOS this off-season with teams trying to offload talent in anticipation of avoiding the stiffer penalties associated with tax offenders.
it is hard to get an established veteran player who is probably on a good team for that kind of pick. Just a lot of factors that need to line up for it to work out which is probably the real reason GSW didn't trade their top 10 picks and less to do with the duel timelines.
Even if that player is a franchise altering cornerstone, the likelihood that they become that in anything less than 3-4 years is ridiculous. And even when it does, the likelihood the rest of the team is going to have matured enough to be there at the same time is also unlikely. Orlando is in a decent place finally after what, a decade and they're still probably 2-3 years away from being a no BS playoff team. Same with OKC.
NBA ready players in the draft were RARE in the year Dame got drafted, and now that they're all 19 year olds it's near impossible for that to happen. They don't call it the lottery for nothing.
NBA ready players in the draft were RARE in the year Dame got drafted, and now that they're all 19 year olds it's near impossible for that to happen. They don't call it the lottery for nothing.
You can maybe "quickly" start turning it around... like OKC -- a team being praised to high heavens for a 40-win season and missing the playoffs.
Or you can spend 15 years like the Timberwolves, Kings, and Orlando.
Or you can spend 15 years like the Timberwolves, Kings, and Orlando.
Also if the idea is to trade Dame to a contender... what's the haul back? All those teams that Dame would help get over the hump are tapped out on assets and most likely don't feature a young blue chip player worth trading for.
I'd like to see someone actually put those trades up that makes sense for both sides.
Otherwise, you're left with this:
I'd like to see someone actually put those trades up that makes sense for both sides.
Otherwise, you're left with this:
By reilo Go To PostLet me get this straight:It could definitely get you an established player of value. That kind of player is enough to make y'all a good playoff team but not a team that has a real shot at a title in the next 3 years or so.
The player they select at #3 is a franchise altering cornerstone
AND SIMULTANEOUSLY they cannot get any established player of value for that type of pick value?
Make it make sense
By masud Go To PostIt could definitely get you an established player of value. That kind of player is enough to make y'all a good playoff team but not a team that has a real shot at a title in the next 3 years or so.It's not ONE move to make a difference. There's other moves that need to be made with the other assets they have available. Why is everyone so myopic about it just being the #3 pick as a trade in a vacuum with no other moves in addition to?
Then again, at the same time, all the Knicks did last off-season was sign Brunson. Not a bad single move, right?
By reilo Go To PostAlso if the idea is to trade Dame to a contender… what's the haul back? All those teams that Dame would help get over the hump are tapped out on assets and most likely don't feature a young blue chip player worth trading for.
I'd like to see someone actually put those trades up that makes sense for both sides.
Otherwise, you're left with this:
The 6, 11, Suggs Harris and Black MAGA plus 4 future firsts is a healthy start to a rebuild.
Ja and sign and trade Dillon Brooks for Dame. Get him locked in a Nike facility for the rest of his life. Dame can finally play with an elite defender everyone wins
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThe 6, 11, Suggs Harris and Black MAGA plus 4 future firsts is a healthy start to a rebuild.I'd legit rather die. That's a shit core.
By reilo Go To PostI'd legit rather die. That's a shit core.
The 3, 6, 11 in a deep draft is a great start. You could take pretty much 3 of the top 5 wings. If one of them is good you win.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThe 3, 6, 11 in a deep draft is a great start. You could take pretty much 3 of the top 5 wings. If one of them is good you win.None of them will be as good as Dame is right now. None.
By reilo Go To Postweren't the proposed constructions high end luxury apartments?
So inspiring fighting against affordable housing
the horror of having renters close to your mansion.
By s y Go To Postsilver, you dog faced fuck
By DY_nasty Go To PostFunny
yo 😂
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThey're probably looking at the Warriors and how badly their two timeline thing went.the idea is not to draft bums
By DY_nasty Go To PostConsidering Ja I am not sure this is a good time for him to be going through draft stuff
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThe 3, 6, 11 in a deep draft is a great start. You could take pretty much 3 of the top 5 wings. If one of them is good you win.Deep? This draft if ok looking but don't know if I would call it deep
By DY_nasty Go To PostNBA scouts making him sweat more than Alabama police
By Rob Go To PostWas Wiseman the bpa when they took him? I don’t even rememberyeah, but they wanted to act like he wasn't a project even though dude barely played in college at all.
if they were going to move him, there were better ways to go about it too.
By blackace Go To PostDeep? This draft if ok looking but don't know if I would call it deepits deep, its just that people ain't really hyping guys past victor and the top 5.
i get the promo for the most visible guys, but the thompson twins over hendricks and dick makes no sense to me. even whitmore.
By Rob Go To PostWas Wiseman the bpa when they took him? I don’t even rememberNaw. He was a legit top 3 pick candidate before the season but missed a year of development after getting suspended.
By Rob Go To PostWas Wiseman the bpa when they took him? I don’t even rememberDepends on who you ask. I thought he was a late lotto big.