By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostBig perk just said what we been saying in our circles, and it's opened some eyes.
So Derrick Rose won because of racism? Cause I'd really like to hear the argument for Lebron winning over Durant in 2014 or Curry in 2015/16.
By Sho_Nuff82 Go To PostSo Derrick Rose won because of racism? Cause I'd really like to hear the argument for Lebron winning over Durant in 2014 or Curry in 2015/16.This entire thing is a Klutch psyop
By Sho_Nuff82 Go To PostSo Derrick Rose won because of racism? Cause I'd really like to hear the argument for Lebron winning over Durant in 2014 or Curry in 2015/16.rose won because fuck dwight lol
it is sure, but perk's "you can't tell what's in that man's heart" shit leading the charge is an inside job
By Sho_Nuff82 Go To PostSo Derrick Rose won because of racism? Cause I'd really like to hear the argument for Lebron winning over Durant in 2014 or Curry in 2015/16.
Voter fatigue is the point here, it existed for Giannis just 3 years ago when the blog boys like Lowe, Simmons, Vernon etc all agreed that Giannis could not win another MVP until he wins a title. The Warriors ran a train on Jokic in the playoffs last year, his defense was awful, but the same rules are not applying to him, and instead now it's turned to people saying "well it's a reg season award" when that wasn't the argument for Bron, MJ, Giannis after their playoff failures. The previous playoffs did matter, until now.
And Jokic defense been ass in the playoffs, but the VORP brigade never ever brings it up. I'm here for seeing the bias of the media get thrown in their faces, and I wanna see them get flamed if Jokic wins another and doesn't win a title. I love that Perkins made it uncomfortable.
By i can get you a toe Go To PostThere's definitely some great white hype lulz in basketball if folks wanna real talk.
Nash having two and Bean having 1 is a war crime.
By DY_nasty Go To Postit is sure, but perk's "you can't tell what's in that man's heart" shit leading the charge is an inside jobHis choice of hill is shit. So both can be true sure.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostNash having two and Bean having 1 is a war crime.
This is definitely the most egregious thing. I still don't get how Nash got it over Kobe in 05-06. That roster was so trash lmao
By reilo Go To PostHis teammates are never healthy. Jamal Murray is an all-star caliber player.
Counter-point
At least more of an all star than Mo Williams ever was.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostNash having two and Bean having 1 is a war crime.the craziest part about it all is that nash still don't even have to personally defend that bullshit lol. went on to coach riding the same wave of BS and now he's back to doing tiktok dances not giving af
Also, for what it's worth, Jokic himself said he doesn't want the third MVP. So, voters should pay attention and pick Embiid or Giannis.
By reilo Go To PostAlso, for what it's worth, Jokic himself said he doesn't want the third MVP. So, voters should pay attention and pick Embiid or Giannis."Oh my God! Look at the sportsmanship from Jokic!"
By reilo Go To Post
Counter-point
Maybe your teammates could thrive more individually if you don't have the ball 100 times per game
By blackace Go To Post"Oh my God! Look at the sportsmanship from Jokic!"
lmao ayo they really did that in the playoffs last year. When he got pulled out the game on defense they flipped it and were like "Look at how Jokic calls out the lob before the play happens!!!" and not that he was a liability on defense.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nikola-jokic-lob-warriors-nuggets/iutprut76haa4ezwbu0o302s
By diehard Go To PostKendrick is a bum who stumbled onto something worth talking about but was totally unqualified to do so.
just facts lol
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostShould be one MVP award and it should be awarded at the end of the playoffs.It's called Finals MVP.
By blackace Go To PostKendrick is a bum who stumbled onto something worth talking about but was totally unqualified to do so.aka perfect for the job
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostShould be one MVP award and it should be awarded at the end of the playoffs.they started that last year kinda. They give out a WCF/ECF MVP and a Finals MVP. Curry and Tatum won the first WCF/ECF MVPs
By DY_nasty Go To Postaka perfect for the job😂
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostMaybe your teammates could thrive more individually if you don't have the ball 100 times per gameHe's got a 26.9 USG%, pick a better argument
Giannis currently leads the league with 38.9 USG%
Followed by Luka with 38.3 USG%
By reilo Go To PostHe's got a 26.9 USG%, pick a better argumentyeah see you lost it too lmao
Giannis currently leads the league with 38.9 USG%
Followed by Luka with 38.3 USG%
the creative ways the media has shit on Embiid in this type of season is wiiiiiiiiild. a lot of this dialogue wouldn't exist if Embiidic got the same sheen on his flaws as the other guy.
By DY_nasty Go To Postyeah see you lost it too lmaoI actually don't think Jokic should be MVP for a third time.
the creative ways the media has shit on Embiid in this type of season is wiiiiiiiiild. a lot of this dialogue wouldn't exist if Embiidic got the same sheen on his flaws as the other guy.
But to claim he's hogging the ball is really dumb.
By reilo Go To PostHe's got a 26.9 USG%, pick a better argument
Giannis currently leads the league with 38.9 USG%
Followed by Luka with 38.3 USG%
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches?dir=D&sort=TOUCHES
99 touches per game, leads the league in front court touches too. He got the ball A LOT.
Embiid 72 touches
Giannis 79 touches
I seen a very logical hater ask why Sabonis isn't number 2 in MVP voting cause his numbers are close to Jokics.
By reilo Go To PostI actually don't think Jokic should be MVP for a third time.it is 100%
But to claim he's hogging the ball is really dumb.
so is calling out embiid for his defense when jokic gets a whole "holy smokes look at him coordinate this help defense wow" every time he's late to rotate lol
By DY_nasty Go To Postit is 100%😂😂
so is calling out embiid for his defense when jokic gets a whole "holy smokes look at him coordinate this help defense wow" every time he's late to rotate lol
By DY_nasty Go To Postit is 100%I mean, both are dumb?
so is calling out embiid for his defense when jokic gets a whole "holy smokes look at him coordinate this help defense wow" every time he's late to rotate lol
But who are you arguing with lol. I'm not making these arguments. I actually think Embiid's defense as of late has been great.
I just don't buy this ball hog nonsense from Jokic. He attempts less than 15fg/gm.
By DY_nasty Go To Postit is 100%
so is calling out embiid for his defense when jokic gets a whole "holy smokes look at him coordinate this help defense wow" every time he's late to rotate lol
lmao
People gotta go rewatch some of those Suns vs Nuggets clips from that series and how open CP3 was coming off the screen.
By Kibner Go To PostIt's called Finals MVP.
Then if the criteria for voters is just picking the best player of the finals, then so be it.
At least we would get this “he doesn’t deserve to be regular season MVP for not winning in the playoffs”.
Or just have MVPs and a player of the year award which takes into account who is simply the best player on the planet. And if it is the same player, then ok.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To Posthttps://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches?dir=D&sort=TOUCHES4.4 for a time of possession. Tyler Herro has the ball longer in his hands.
99 touches per game, leads the league in front court touches too. He got the ball A LOT.
Embiid 72 touches
Giannis 79 touches
I seen a very logical hater ask why Sabonis isn't number 2 in MVP voting cause his numbers are close to Jokics.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostThen if the criteria for voters is just picking the best player if the finals, then so be it.
At least we would get this “he doesn’t deserve to be regular season MVP for not winning in the playoffs”.
Or just have MVPs and a player of the year award which takes into account who is simply the best player on the planet. And if it is the same player, then ok.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostThen if the criteria for voters is just picking the best player of the finals, then so be it.lol we will always have this
At least we would get this “he doesn’t deserve to be regular season MVP for not winning in the playoffs”.
Or just have MVPs and a player of the year award which takes into account who is simply the best player on the planet. And if it is the same player, then ok.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostNash having two and Bean having 1 is a war crime.The narrative was Nash made everyone better while Kobe was the selfish scoring champ.
By reilo Go To Post4.4 for a time of possession. Tyler Herro has the ball longer in his hands.
Time of possession is more than Embiid and less than Giannis by 1. Give them both another 20 touches per game and what their stats looking like?
flip them around and just make up the new argument too. its just as fun
"why won't embiid step aside and let his young PG grow their game?"
"i can't help but feel this success is about the individual more than the team"
people will make up reasons to selectively shit on and diminish certain players. that's the area for the dialogue.
"why won't embiid step aside and let his young PG grow their game?"
"i can't help but feel this success is about the individual more than the team"
By reilo Go To PostI mean, both are dumb?im arguing for how dumb the majority of the arguments that get regular play are. if its down to advanced stats, i'd like to think folks remember how ESPN's audience collectively threw up whenever some analyst rolled out stuff that said LBJ was better than Jordan for a metric lol. its nothing new and when its this close - a glance at the above posts - shows how circular it becomes and how quickly storytelling becomes the defining factor.
But who are you arguing with lol. I'm not making these arguments. I actually think Embiid's defense as of late has been great.
I just don't buy this ball hog nonsense from Jokic. He attempts less than 15fg/gm.
people will make up reasons to selectively shit on and diminish certain players. that's the area for the dialogue.
By DY_nasty Go To Postim arguing for how dumb the majority of the arguments that get regular play are. if its down to advanced stats, i'd like to think folks remember how ESPN's audience collectively threw up whenever some analyst rolled out stuff that said LBJ was better than Jordan for a metric lol. its nothing newYea, it sucks. The same vitriol doesn't exist in the NFL and that league is legit racist.
people will make up reasons to selectively shit on and diminish certain players. that's the area for the dialogue.