Russell. I like Mario but I'm not that crazy to take him here.
So Russell. and Hope he isn't Turner with a jumper.
So Russell. and Hope he isn't Turner with a jumper.
that new avatar makes the entire frontpage look different.
i always looked for that yellow head instead of the thread title.
i always looked for that yellow head instead of the thread title.
its so right that the draft's direction after the top 3 hinges on NY and Sacramento staying fuckshit
Mudiay all day been saying it for weeks. He could very very easily be the best knick point guard I've ever seen play. So sick of watching shitty guards.
edit: alright, the top 3 picks were pretty unanimous but the rest of the selections will be tougher so I'm gonna take the foot off the gas and let everyone going forward have some time to come up with their pick.
Will put people the clock when we're much closer to the actual draft.
Will put people the clock when we're much closer to the actual draft.
By KingGondo Go To PostMy early favorites for our pick:
Kelly Oubre
Justin Anderson
Devin Booker
I don't think Oubre would fall that far. He's a Top 10 pick and if no one takes him the Miami Heat already have eyes set on him. Sadly.
Edit: Oh mock draft, not real one.
lakers will get russell.
A Favors/Gobert/Kaminsky frontcourt rotation could slaughter the NBA
I see the Lakers getting Russell instead of Okafor
I believe they view Randle as a long term piece and they will go after almost every big man available in free agency.They can easily get a guy like Asik or Chandler to patrol the paint.It would be easier to go that route and draft your point guard of the future.
Then the Sixers either get Mudiay or Winslow,Knicks Okafor (and probably keep him).
A Favors/Gobert/Kaminsky frontcourt rotation could slaughter the NBA
I see the Lakers getting Russell instead of Okafor
I believe they view Randle as a long term piece and they will go after almost every big man available in free agency.They can easily get a guy like Asik or Chandler to patrol the paint.It would be easier to go that route and draft your point guard of the future.
Then the Sixers either get Mudiay or Winslow,Knicks Okafor (and probably keep him).
It's English but it's wrong. Going small over big is risky as hell. I like Russell but LA needs a defensive Big like Towns. I'd be ok with Okafor over Russell too, but I know him and Randle aren't gonna protect the paint for shit.
Welp, Knicks have no choice but to draft Mudiay. It's sad that we intentionally won a few games and shitted on our chances. I really can't believe the stupidity. But Emmanuel Mudiay is pretty good. Pair him with Monroe we should easily be a mid-seeded team next season.
Manny is also young, which is a huge plus. He's also looking forward to hopefully being a Knick, as is Towns. We may very well see a trade between the Wolves and Knicks.
Manny is also young, which is a huge plus. He's also looking forward to hopefully being a Knick, as is Towns. We may very well see a trade between the Wolves and Knicks.
Also, as the only person on SLAENT (I think?) who lives near the Orlando area: I'll comment about their pick.
I suspect it'll be Kristaps Porzingis and they'll turn him into another work in progress. He'll back up Vucevic. Or start at the 4 if Harris leaves.
I suspect it'll be Kristaps Porzingis and they'll turn him into another work in progress. He'll back up Vucevic. Or start at the 4 if Harris leaves.
By K@do Go To Postwhy would you choose mudiay over Mario?some people are paranoid when it comes to euro prospects
someone talk to me. give me insight.
i can understand it, but times are changing and the rest of the world is catching up quick. i don't think we're too far away from a draft where the top 3 picks are all international players
By K@do Go To PostUsually when that happens it turns out he copied and pasted it from somewhere.
did romrei just type that?
Mudiay's first year is gonna be rough I think. Not only do I think Mario has a decent chance to be better than Mudiay, but in theory he also fits well into the triangle as a slasher who can shoot.
A PG like Mudiay who can't shoot paired with Melo and possibly Drummond, I don't know. The euro fear is real but we honestly know as much about Mario as we do about Mudiay.
A PG like Mudiay who can't shoot paired with Melo and possibly Drummond, I don't know. The euro fear is real but we honestly know as much about Mario as we do about Mudiay.
fuck everything. Knicks-SLAENT is boycotting the Mock Draft until an investigation is done on Silver. and fuck syphon too.
By etiolation Go To PostAre we past the Knicks yet?nope. they took their ball and went home.
Got a month until the draft, gonna let Knicks-Slaent cook on it. There are enough of them to still turn the vote away from Mudiay.
By etiolation Go To PostAre we past the Knicks yet?
yo WCS or Winslow? I like Cauley-Stein in the sense that he would be the best defensive complement big man to DMC that we've ever had but as a college junior for him to still get pushed around by weaker, less athletic players on the glass and in the post is worrying. Not of fan of his up-and-down nonchalant attitude on the court either. His touch around the basket is Kwame Brown bad too.
Winslow looks incredibly promising in terms of elite physicality and defensive ability. 100000 fold higher bball IQ than Derrick Williams. A freshman who's already locked in at continuing to improve with amazing focus and work ethic.
I want Winslow over WCS just because I don't want to imagine an even more careless Kings squad than we have now.
WCS. I've been on his fan train for a couple of years. I don't see the "doesn't care" sentiment in his play that others do. His body will develop in the NBA and Cousins hulk-strength kind of balances out WCS lankier body. He'll start out getting his baskets via lobs, fast breaks and putbacks. Over time, I feel his face up jumper will develop. I don't ever expect him to be a post-based offensive player, but that doesn't matter when you have Cousins. Defensively, he can do more than Winslow. He's 7ft and moves quickly, leaps quickly and therefor can create disruptive problems for the other team's offense.
By K@do Go To Postwhy would you choose mudiay over Mario?
someone talk to me. give me insight.
By DY_nasty Go To Postsome people are paranoid when it comes to euro prospects
i can understand it, but times are changing and the rest of the world is catching up quick. i don't think we're too far away from a draft where the top 3 picks are all international players
Well, I also don't think the Knicks need a 6'8 forward. We have plenty of forwards.
We do need a point guard though, and I also really happen to like Mudiay's height. But I am concerned about his FT%.
Also, someone's having a piss on Wikipedia...
RIP Manny.
Look at the right column box carefully
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostWell, I also don't think the Knicks need a 6'8 forward. We have plenty of forwards.The Knicks have one good player. The rest are complete trash.
We do need a point guard though, and I also really happen to like Mudiay's height. But I am concerned about his FT%.
Also, someone's having a piss on Wikipedia…
RIP Manny.
Look at the right column box carefully
Knicks really aren't in a spot to draft for position. You take whoever you think is the best player at 4.
If 19 year old Carmelo Anthony from another dimension traverses time and space, becomes draft eligible and falls to #4, you take him and tell OldMelo to check his feelings.
If 19 year old Carmelo Anthony from another dimension traverses time and space, becomes draft eligible and falls to #4, you take him and tell OldMelo to check his feelings.
Why not just draft that Paula dude if you want gambling on potential and measurement? lol
Because by other metric Mudiay is nothing.
Because by other metric Mudiay is nothing.
Fuck Mudlay.
Look, gimme 1 day two re-watch film and blurry YouTube vids from the Kremlin or some shit and get back with Knicks-SLAENT. I didn't even check out the prospects past 4. Fuck Shved and Galloway.
FACK!
Look, gimme 1 day two re-watch film and blurry YouTube vids from the Kremlin or some shit and get back with Knicks-SLAENT. I didn't even check out the prospects past 4. Fuck Shved and Galloway.
FACK!
Frank embrace Mudiay. The kids gonna be good. Lots of dudes couldn't shoot early on, it's an easily correctable problem, unlike being unathlectic or having a low motor.
By fertygo Go To PostWhy not just draft that Paula dude if you want gambling on potential and measurement? lolHands off I saw him first.
If not Mudiay then it's Hezonja or Winslow right? Dunno shit bout any of them but I know we need a point pretty badly. I'll let Frank do his thing before I put my choice out I guess.
the triangle trivializes the PG position by design, also the knicks potentially have 4 PG's on the roster, two of which they know can run the triangle. So I don't see Mudiay as a PG but maybe he could play the 2 of course but he isn't a good shooter and even when he drives and fouls his FT% is shit.... So until the workouts happen (which not for nothing he has avoided up to now) we'll have no idea if he could handle that position change or not.
I like Winslow at the SG spot as a 2 way left handed SG/SF mix. I am pretty sure the knicks will have both of them in at the same time and will let them just go at each other (unless mudiay avoids that workout too)
Who the fuck is Hezonja?
Idgaf about this thread so put whoever you want at 4
I like Winslow at the SG spot as a 2 way left handed SG/SF mix. I am pretty sure the knicks will have both of them in at the same time and will let them just go at each other (unless mudiay avoids that workout too)
Who the fuck is Hezonja?
Idgaf about this thread so put whoever you want at 4
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostWho the fuck is Hezonja?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d4vqiqSMOY
y'all aint ready for a european rudy gay/klay hybrid.
No one on that Knicks roster is worth placing above your pick tbh. Knicks are too shitty to be drafting for positional need, that'd be like LA passing on Okafor/Towns cause we got Jordan Hill/Tarik Black at center.
But yea generally speaking, Mudiay is a bad fit for the triangle offense. But there are sets you can run in the triangle that has Mudiay slash or drive and dish
But yea generally speaking, Mudiay is a bad fit for the triangle offense. But there are sets you can run in the triangle that has Mudiay slash or drive and dish
If Mudiay doesn't fit, he'd still be considered a high valued asset they can trade easily during the draft.
We could also draft Kristaps. He'd fit into the triangle perfectly. He thrives playing away from the ball. Has good long distance range. Smart with pick-and-rolls.
But he needs to work on his strength. A lot. He's scrawny.
But he needs to work on his strength. A lot. He's scrawny.
By Moris Go To PostBut yea generally speaking, Mudiay is a bad fit for the triangle offense. But there are sets you can run in the triangle that has Mudiay slash or drive and dish
If Russell Drops I think the knicks take him because beyond passing ability and shooting with Melo operating on the strong side it would create a lot of opportunities for a left handed PG to work the PnR with a center when the defense focused on Melo. I know this is going to be unpopular but shit the knicks might as well package Calderon and Timmy to Detroit for left handed Jennings before they take Mudiay.
With Mudiay those same slash and drive sets you mentioned could go to Winslow and if they get his shot under control they could move him to the corner wing as a 3&D which is even better.
By Moris Go To PostNo one on that Knicks roster is worth placing above your pick tbh. Knicks are too shitty to be drafting for positional need, that'd be like LA passing on Okafor/Towns cause we got Jordan Hill/Tarik Black at center.Fuck the triangle. Get Mudiay, maybe Russel.
But yea generally speaking, Mudiay is a bad fit for the triangle offense. But there are sets you can run in the triangle that has Mudiay slash or drive and dish
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostWe could also draft Kristaps. He'd fit into the triangle perfectly. He thrives playing away from the ball. Has good long distance range. Smart with pick-and-rolls.
But he needs to work on his strength. A lot. He's scrawny.
Y'all have some shitty ultimatum.
Don't the Knicks NEED a center. All your centers are shit and are all free agents. Guards to an extent too but which would you rather have? Hope that Bargnani has a breakout year or make do with Jose Calderon?
Kristaps would be a good choice for longterm.
At the same time, you want to be contention ready ASAP and the most NBA ready player would be ideal for that route. Drafting a guard would require you to thrive off the sparse roster left. Who the hell is gonna come to New York?
By etiolation Go To PostWCS. I've been on his fan train for a couple of years. I don't see the "doesn't care" sentiment in his play that others do. His body will develop in the NBA and Cousins hulk-strength kind of balances out WCS lankier body. He'll start out getting his baskets via lobs, fast breaks and putbacks. Over time, I feel his face up jumper will develop. I don't ever expect him to be a post-based offensive player, but that doesn't matter when you have Cousins. Defensively, he can do more than Winslow. He's 7ft and moves quickly, leaps quickly and therefor can create disruptive problems for the other team's offense.
The only thing that worries me is that his body hasn't developed for 2-3 years now. He put on 20 pounds of weight when he started at Kentucky but didn't add anything to it during his college career. Maybe he tried but his frame already reached its limit? Another thing is that his length is below average for a 7-footer so I can't imagine he'll be as effective protecting the basket in the NBA. But I am sold on his mobility. Very few 7-footers can move like he can. As much as I love Winslow, he is relatively undersized and average length for his position. And as you mentioned, I think WCS's jumper can and will improve. His mechanics are solid. Just needs to be practicing and hopefully that'll mean he won't be a complete liability in terms of floor spacing.