By Laboured Go To PostThink he will do fine, succeed is hard to tell at a club run like ManU.
But when he got the Ajax job there were only a handful of people, those that appointed him at the club, that wanted him. He was everything they felt Ajax was not, lacking the personality, city flair and Ajax way of playing. He was the provincial, including accent personified, it was never gonna work. For a club like Ajax it means that every football show and above all the Telegraaf is against you, which meant hit piece after hit piece even after success when his assistant left (obvious the brains behind it all, not so).
In that environment he build up two teams, similar style but with different type of players. Read a lot of what type of player he needs, but those two teams had different style of players even though the system stayed more or less the same. Different CBs physical in to smaller more football, new Fullbacks, A Frenkie style 6 in to a Mexican grit DM, Hakim as AMR in to winger like Anthony, Pure Ajax 10 in DvB in to creative Berghuis and a false nine tadic in to pure 9 like Haller.
I feel he will do his own thing whatever other people around the club will be saying. If that will work at the top and a club like Manu with so many old players in the "press" we will see, but it must feel strange for him to be wanted at a club.
edit: Ten Hag started as assistant under McLaren at Twente, maybe that's probably were the connection comes from.
By Xpike Go To Postwho is julian joachimYou must be joachim
By Cleff Go To Post
Woodward at it again
ETH is the best coach we could have appointed. He'll improve our players technically and will hopefully get us playing modern, intelligent football. If he's backed in the transfer market and we get the exact players he requires for his system we could see the beginning of a rejuvenation.
But the biggest issue will always be the Glazers. They have an incredibly patchy record in getting the players that managers want. Moyes wanted Bale, Fabregas and Baines. He got none of those targets. Fellaini was only a panicked signing near the end of the window when all other avenues had closed off.
We signed a ton of players under LVG and he's blamed for wasting so much money. But again, very few were actually players he wanted. Shaw and Herrera were players Moyes targeted during his season in charge. Di Maria, Falcao, Darmian lads, were all club signings. Schweinsteiger was a Van Gaal target, but only because we couldn't get his first choices.
Mourinho got none of his targets after his first season in charge. He wanted Maguire and Boeteng but got Fred and Dalot instead. Same with Solksjaer in his second season. Spent the summer after a CM and Sancho. Got VDB and two teenaged wingers instead. The next summer he got Sancho and Varane, but not the central midfielder he really wanted.
But the biggest issue will always be the Glazers. They have an incredibly patchy record in getting the players that managers want. Moyes wanted Bale, Fabregas and Baines. He got none of those targets. Fellaini was only a panicked signing near the end of the window when all other avenues had closed off.
We signed a ton of players under LVG and he's blamed for wasting so much money. But again, very few were actually players he wanted. Shaw and Herrera were players Moyes targeted during his season in charge. Di Maria, Falcao, Darmian lads, were all club signings. Schweinsteiger was a Van Gaal target, but only because we couldn't get his first choices.
Mourinho got none of his targets after his first season in charge. He wanted Maguire and Boeteng but got Fred and Dalot instead. Same with Solksjaer in his second season. Spent the summer after a CM and Sancho. Got VDB and two teenaged wingers instead. The next summer he got Sancho and Varane, but not the central midfielder he really wanted.
Guardian:
The Dutchman views the group he will inherit as having vastly underperformed this season and feels it contains four groups of players worth persevering with.
The first are those at the pinnacle of their careers, where Ten Hag places Bruno Fernandes and Raphaël Varane; then those entering that phase, in his opinion Marcus Rashford and Scott McTominay; others on an upward trajectory, such as Jadon Sancho; and youngsters emerging from the academy for whom he sees a bright future, including Hannibal Mejbri, Alejandro Garnacho and James Garner.
Although funds for Ten Hag will not be limitless, in line with club policy and as a result of the pandemic, with Paul Pogba, Juan Mata, Phil Jones, Nemanja Matic and Jesse Lingard among those due to leave in the summer this will allow him greater flexibility in the market.
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Ten Hag’s appointment has had a mixed reception from the squad, with some players ambivalent and other underwhelmed as they wait to work with the 52-year-old. Van de Beek liked an Instagram post confirming the appointment and can be expected to give a positive assessment to his colleagues at United.
So probably around £70m to spend initially and whatever we can recoup in sales and also the future money saved by expiring contracts. So between a £100-120m net spend maybe?
I guess we'll have a similar summer to last season. Nowhere near enough to get the two midfielders and striker we're apparently after. I'd settle for the two midfielders. Would still leave us three fullbacks, a centre back and a right wing short.
I guess we'll have a similar summer to last season. Nowhere near enough to get the two midfielders and striker we're apparently after. I'd settle for the two midfielders. Would still leave us three fullbacks, a centre back and a right wing short.
Absolutely up for this. Reduce the allocation as much as we possibly can if these cunts can’t act like half decent members of society.
By Laboured Go To PostMy bet is 1 CM, 1 striker and 1 CB, and yes it is absolutely not enough.Or, hear me out on this, £100m on Rice.
By Crusher Go To PostTime to bring in Kane and Rice as welcome gifts for ETH.Well, it is customary to bring rice to a weeding.
I feel like I’d have rather 5-6 “cheap” signings in the £25-30m range, maybe even a free transfer or two.
Manyoo fans. Calm down. No Star will come to a sinking boat. Build from below. Be Liverpool. Not city
By recon_zero Go To PostI would take a bomb thread seriously but man, I laughed. :(Saw a tweet that said was he sure someone didn’t just kick a ball in his yard and panicked
Shamefully I laughed
By Burt The Samurai Go To PostEven n8 was like ‘fuck this I’m watching basketball and supporting a team’
🌚😭
that was a fucked up decision too
why can’t one of my teams be good
By maxpower Go To PostETH couldn't even beat Benfica.
Chelsea couldn’t even beat Brentford. Bayern couldn’t even beat Villarreal.
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what are we doing here?
By Lego Go To PostI feel like I’d have rather 5-6 “cheap” signings in the £25-30m range, maybe even a free transfer or two.If you do this you get a lot of Daniel James type players. Not good enough to make a difference. If they want to change the team, they're going to need to spend closer to £50m on each player they sign or at a minimum it's got to be someone ETH just coached so they can take on his ideas immediately. Buying big doesn't always work out either (DVB), but you've got a much higher likelihood of the player being ready to contribute significantly and Utd desperately need that. 3 players at around ~£50m a piece should be their goal.
Hnnnnnng McLaren as Anglo-Dutch liaison agent, the possible return of René Meulensteen (reunion with Phelan?), the mention of a WARCHEST, this new ETH era already is shaping up to be something special.
Build the team around Van de Beek. Play the youth. Help wonderkids like Rashford, Sancho and Lingard achieve their full potential. Put in a cheeky £80M bid for Ziyech maybe?
Build the team around Van de Beek. Play the youth. Help wonderkids like Rashford, Sancho and Lingard achieve their full potential. Put in a cheeky £80M bid for Ziyech maybe?
By Meier Go To PostI see nothing wrong with it.
By n8 dogg Go To PostChelsea couldn’t even beat Brentford. Bayern couldn’t even beat Villarreal.Just fucking with y'all.
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what are we doing here?
By Meier Go To Post
By Meier Go To PostIf you do this you get a lot of Daniel James type players. Not good enough to make a difference. If they want to change the team, they're going to need to spend closer to £50m on each player they sign or at a minimum it's got to be someone ETH just coached so they can take on his ideas immediately. Buying big doesn't always work out either (DVB), but you've got a much higher likelihood of the player being ready to contribute significantly and Utd desperately need that. 3 players at around ~£50m a piece should be their goal.If you're looking at Liverpool as a base, Klopp's first window saw Mane, Wijnaldum for 25-35m & Klavan and Matip added for almost nothing; next season saw Salah, Ox and Robertson for <40m fees. Obviously there's been price inflation since then but those type of signings are surely still out there.
By barber Go To Post
Just like when they signed Seri. what a great signing he was
Hope we find out one day where the Seri hype came from. He made so little impact that I assume it was 95% PR, and Barcelona had never heard of him.
