Even with the added context of her not being as direct, in the other half of this video (before the one posted) she could have navigated that a bit better. No different than what the majority of these politicians would have done.
She's going to have to actually stop ducking the issue publicly , at some point (I know she met with the group). What that entails, while she's still VP and Biden is still steering the ship, I don't know.
She's going to have to actually stop ducking the issue publicly , at some point (I know she met with the group). What that entails, while she's still VP and Biden is still steering the ship, I don't know.
By jjasper Go To PostWhen was the last time a Gaza protester interrupted Trump?
There's not point. The goal is to course change current policy. Not only is trump not in a position to do that, he also just wouldn't do that.
If Nancy pulls this off she can inside trade all she wants
The main point on the statement was that a large portion of these protestors are corrupted/warped by social media bots away from Trump on the subject so the one who is going to be the absolute worst outcome for the situation benefits the most from it.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThere's not point. The goal is to course change current policy. Not only is trump not in a position to do that, he also just wouldn't do that.You are never going to get the current VP to undermine the President publicly on the subject (or really any major subject) especially in a setting like that.
The main point on the statement was that a large portion of these protestors are corrupted/warped by social media bots away from Trump on the subject so the one who is going to be the absolute worst outcome for the situation benefits the most from it.
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
Nancy don’t MISS
By Laboured Go To PostI don't like her but her instinct on that particular point is spot on.
Yeah ... I'm not a big fan either but it's undeniable ... her ability to whip votes / count and her chops as politician are top notch.
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
Nancy don’t MISS
Especially when it comes to inside trading and performative BLM stuff.
Because he reneged on that campaign promise lol
But yes, they should've stepped in sooner -- he should've never gone unchallenged during the primary.
HOWEVER, this shortened GE with Kamala vs Trump might be in the Dems favor, so, IDK.
But yes, they should've stepped in sooner -- he should've never gone unchallenged during the primary.
HOWEVER, this shortened GE with Kamala vs Trump might be in the Dems favor, so, IDK.
Everything is hindsight. They should have done this sooner in theory, and while this shortened time frame seems to be working, nobody predicted it would be working this well. The debate was the turning point for most everyone after he didn't back out of his first term. There were plenty of reports of her pulling string behind the scenes to make it happen.
Which is another example of their hubris outside of the Vance pick. They didn't even bother having an attack ready to go, which would cost nothing, and her and Waltz were able to define themselves while these dudes are scrambling to counter being creepy freaks.
By Dazenheimer Go To PostYeah, it all caught the repubs wrong footed and now they're scrambling.
Which is another example of their hubris outside of the Vance pick. They didn't even bother having an attack ready to go, which would cost nothing, and her and Waltz were able to define themselves while these dudes are scrambling to counter being creepy freaks.
By reilo Go To PostBecause he reneged on that campaign promise lolThe idea that any of this was a surprise at any point is just absurd though. That had to know Biden was continuing on - and actively enabled him to do so.
But yes, they should've stepped in sooner – he should've never gone unchallenged during the primary.
HOWEVER, this shortened GE with Kamala vs Trump might be in the Dems favor, so, IDK.
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe idea that any of this was a surprise at any point is just absurd though. That had to know Biden was continuing on - and actively enabled him to do so.100% agree but this is politics, and Pelosi is shrewd af catching Ws where she can.
BUT, there is something to be said that the impetus to get him to drop out wasn't there until the disaster of a debate and everything that followed. They needed the public on their side and up until then the fever pitch hadn't hit yet.
I also sorta feel like Biden slide was happening at a pace greater than anyone thought. The state of the union quelled some concerns and then ... well ... the debate.
I'm okay with her painting herself as this Jedi council leader, but the reality is they rugpalled an entire party at electoral gunpoint lol
I thought we were done with the YAS QUEENisms
I thought we were done with the YAS QUEENisms
By Fenderputty Go To PostI also sorta feel like Biden slide was happening at a pace greater than anyone thought. The state of the union quelled some concerns and then … well … the debate.The visible slide was great because it let Dems blame him whenever convenient
Shit, pelosi keeping people around just to take hits is how she got as far as she has
Man, even Bernie defended Biden with a giant NYT Op-Ed after the debate saying he should stay in. The whole thing was wacky, and I don't think there really was consensus even towards the end.
Now everyone is pretending like it was the right move all along. Politicians grift.
Now everyone is pretending like it was the right move all along. Politicians grift.
There's probably some truth to that, but I do think they needed the debate for this to happen without a massive outcry and a division within the party. BIg money started to drop out post debate. Smaller donation were too. Public outcry for him to bail went way up. Fuck ... my mom started telling the DNC she refused to donate until he's done. People in my family and social circles were all saying we're doomed. Without that ... I'm not sure we have this sense of unity moving forward.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThere's probably some truth to that, but I do think they needed the debate for this to happen without a massive outcry and a division within the party. BIg money started to drop out post debate. Smaller donation were too. Public outcry for him to bail went way up. Fuck … my mom started telling the DNC she refused to donate until he's done. People in my family and social circles were all saying we're doomed. Without that … I'm not sure we have this sense of unity moving forward.That wasn't even the worse showing from Biden though. Outlets went from highlighting him laughing off falling off his bike to showing the contrast from his debate with Paul Ryan back in 2012.
This isn't some kind of wake up sheeple thing, just pointing out how they categorically pivoted on downplaying things to vividly laying out how he was hitting his Jimmy Carter stride. And you don't plan that out in a month or so either.
"Here's how things are going down - or you get Trump". is not unity.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI also sorta feel like Biden slide was happening at a pace greater than anyone thought. The state of the union quelled some concerns and then … well … the debate.more to the fact that he just isn't up to the rigour and energy you need for what campaigning demands of the mind and body.
at that age, a bad cold or slip in the kitchen can be it.
By Cleff Go To PostIt's anti-Italian discrimination.The guy that did shit on behalf of the Spanish Queen?
“All Trump has to do is talk about his positions, like he did in 2016,” said Ann Coulter, the conservative commentator who broke with Mr. Trump some years back, largely because of his inability to focus on the issues she cared about.Republicans be like: "focus on the issues like that got you elected in 2016!"
Trump's focus on the issues in 2016:
By DiPro Go To Postnobody in italy gives a flying fuck about Columbus.He was from Genoa... the north of Italy always had de money and de power. They punish the south for years. Even today, the put-a their noses up at us like we're peasants. Pffffft
I hate the north.
By reilo Go To PostRepublicans be like: "focus on the issues like that got you elected in 2016!"That’s what Trump has been doing what is she talking about
Trump's focus on the issues in 2016:
I assume Coulter wants him to be saying things like "all black people are mongrels and should be enslaved" as opposed to him doing intractable freestyle bits about Hannibal Lecter.
By Rob Go To PostThat’s what Trump has been doing what is she talking aboutI thoroughly remember how nice and kind he was to Hillary and other opponents during the primary. He was always respectful to them. /s
OMG thees dudes are trying to simultaneously beat the "weird" label while also trying to counter the couch joke and in doing so are trying to make a horse cum joke about Tim Walz.
Touching the whole stolen valor story when your dad is Captain Bone Spurs is hilarious
Lay off the coke jr
Lay off the coke jr
it's incredible that the first time dems go on the offensive in a decade, it's this guy just calling them "weird"...
and you'd think he dropped some kind of tactical nuke going by the aftermath.
and you'd think he dropped some kind of tactical nuke going by the aftermath.
Also, I'm done reading news for today. Was on bbc.com and just read one piece which absolutely ruined my day. (not a joke, I'm genuinely upset)
By inky Go To Postit's incredible that the first time dems go on the offensive in a decade, it's this guy just calling them "weird"…He tapped into their big insecurity and just one word destroyed their image and allowed them to self destruct
and you think he'd dropped some kind of tactical nuke going by the aftermath.
By inky Go To PostAlso, I'm done reading news for today. Was on bbc.com and just read one piece which absolutely ruined my day. (not a joke, I'm genuinely upset)Is it related to dogs