By FortuneFaded Go To PostSchools going online is worse than the Iraq war
Nate silver hyperbole aside
Online learning is awful, vaccines are here, suicide and depression rates are up for youth. I’ve been working since two months into this pandemic. Get teachers in classrooms
By Cleff Go To PostIsn't this exactly what the Unionists did in the 60's and 70's? Locked them out of the better paid trades and vocations in NI?Yeah but then the taigs made the poor trades work out in the longer term or they went and got an education and they weren't supposed to do that.
By Fenderputty Go To PostNate silver hyperbole asideThe teachers often don't get the support to do that safely. Whether it be governments prohibiting mask requirements, poor ventilation systems, way too many kids in classes, unvaccinated kids and staff, and many other things.
Online learning is awful, vaccines are here, suicide and depression rates are up for youth. I’ve been working since two months into this pandemic. Get teachers in classrooms
By Kibner Go To PostThe teachers often don't get the support to do that safely. Whether it be governments prohibiting mask requirements, poor ventilation systems, way too many kids in classes, unvaccinated kids and staff, and many other things.
So my life for the last two years. We’re at the endemic stage of this thing. Get the vaccine and get boosted and get to work. /shrug
Maybe omicron burns COVID out, but it seems just as likely this is the new norm.
It’s remarkable how much better my daughter is learning during her in person kindergarten classes than her remote preschool.
By Pedja Go To PostYeah but then the taigs made the poor trades work out in the longer term or they went and got an education and they weren't supposed to do that.And had a ton of babies which got the Unionists scared about being replaced. So crack down even more.
By Kibner Go To PostThe teachers often don't get the support to do that safely. Whether it be governments prohibiting mask requirements, poor ventilation systems, way too many kids in classes, unvaccinated kids and staff, and many other things.basically the one of the big reason dems lost in VA
also, if there's always gonna be a gap between new strains and boosters rolling out then deal with it isn't going to be a solid strategy or make anyone want to show up for an already shitty job
By Fenderputty Go To PostSo my life for the last two years. We’re at the endemic stage of this thing. Get the vaccine and get boosted and get to work. /shrugToddlers definitely need classroom time, but middle school and up? That should be done as hybrid online with real classes once or twice per week.
Maybe omicron burns COVID out, but it seems just as likely this is the new norm.
It’s remarkable how much better my daughter is learning during her in person kindergarten classes than her remote preschool.
By blackace Go To PostToddlers definitely need classroom time, but middle school and up? That should be done as hybrid online with real classes once or twice per week.
I’m ok with that, but what’s the cost? That’s the age range which depression and suicide is increasing in.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI’m ok with that, but what’s the cost? That’s the age range which depression and suicide is increasing in.If we are being honest, those numbers have been trending upwards well before covid or online learning. So it would continue to trend that way online or not
By blackace Go To PostIf we are being honest, those numbers have been trending upwards well before covid or online learning. So it would continue to trend that way online or not
That’s probably true and a fair point. I don’t have teenagers either so I’m not sure how they handled at home learning.I only have my anecdote
By Fenderputty Go To PostThat’s probably true and a fair point. I don’t have teenagers either so I’m not sure how they handled at home learning.I only have my anecdoteIt's one of those odd handpicked stats that people love using to resist change.
https://health.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/news/headlines/even-before-covid-19-pandemic-youth-suicide-already-at-record-high/2021/04
The rate of suicide for those ages 10 to 24 increased nearly 60% between 2007 and 2018, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The CDC reported that suicide was the second leading cause of death among people ages 10-34 in 2018.Sadly it wasn't a hot topic issue until it could be politicized
By Lunatic Go To PostWhat about the drop in general intelligence of kids during covid was that also trending down?
All things people have been concerned about for years, but now people are pinning on a year or so of online schooling
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-06-14/study-people-are-getting-dumber%3fcontext=amp
By Pedja Go To PostI think fender is asking how we get the toddler suicide rate up
These are the real issues. Less child proof containers should be the first step.
By blackace Go To PostAll things people have been concerned about for years, but now people are pinning on a year or so of online schoolingI see so it may just be more kids being online in general exacerbated by them being locked up losing out prime development years
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-06-14/study-people-are-getting-dumber%3fcontext=amp
By Lunatic Go To PostI see so it may just be more kids being online in general exacerbated by them being locked up losing out prime development yearsI mean, being in classrooms for 8 hours a day is a form of being locked up. Part of the issue is that society and technology have evolved while our approach to education has not. I don't believe online classes solves that magically or anything but I don't believe it will make students dumber than now
I'm thinking the lack of socialisation really is detrimental to a kids development. Also unsupervised interactions with other kids or just being outside alone where you can problem solve without help is vital. Not saying that I'm right just sharing my thoughts from my own experiences.
By Lunatic Go To PostI'm thinking the lack of socialisation really is detrimental to a kids development.That is a huge concern, which is why hybrid classes would be good, and after elementary school.
The issue is society doesn't socialize like it used to and even in those regards education has not caught up.
By Lunatic Go To PostAlso unsupervised interactions with other kids or just being outside alone where you can problem solve without help is vital. Not saying that I'm right just sharing my thoughts from my own experiences.These things are still doable, I don't believe kids should locked away at home, just cramming 60 kids on buses and 40+ kids in classrooms is necessary anymore.
By blackace Go To PostThat is a huge concern, which is why hybrid classes would be good, and after elementary school.I agree. I made an edit if you wish to opine.
The issue is society doesn't socialize like it used to and even in those regards education has not caught up.
By blackace Go To PostThese things are still doable, I don't believe kids should locked away at home, just cramming 60 kids on buses and 40+ kids in classrooms is necessary anymore.Large classes are also another problem. I was lucky enough to be in smaller ~23 kid classes. The level of individual attention by the teachers is more suitable for smaller class rooms.
I was lucky that I had a good memory, middle class parents that could afford private schooling and most importantly my mother was very involved in my education so school was never a problem.
It feels like how education is now it doesn't challenge you to think but just how to do or write tests. When I went to Canada for University it was so strange that everything was just about tests and very little about engaging students critical thinking. The interaction between lectures and students seemed a one way street.
i mean, teachers unions across the country were raising copious amounts of hell prior to shit hitting the fan too
rubbing some plague into already peeved workforces ain't helping
rubbing some plague into already peeved workforces ain't helping
By Lunatic Go To PostLarge classes are also another problem. I was lucky enough to be in smaller ~23 kid classes. The level of individual attention by the teachers is more suitable for smaller class rooms.Teachers have been trying to give more individual attention to students and hate teaching to tests. But budgets for schools are determined by metrics and all the metrics require these tests. Have to prepare your students for the tests so that you don't have to dip as much into your personal funds to buy paper and pencils.
I was lucky that I had a good memory, middle class parents that could afford private schooling and most importantly my mother was very involved in my education so school was never a problem.
It feels like how education is now it doesn't challenge you to think but just how to do or write tests. When I went to Canada for University it was so strange that everything was just about tests and very little about engaging students critical thinking. The interaction between lectures and students seemed a one way street.
e: watching the Pels play so I didn't articulate my thoughts as well as I would have liked
Like, these metrics even determine whether the state or someone else oversees the school instead of the normal administration and will even close the schools down if the metrics are poor enough. Schools with higher metrics also attract better teachers because they can pay the teachers better because they have a higher budget. Among many other things that I'm not remembering right now.
Online learning is absolutely dogshit. I hate it. Kids hate it. Can’t easily assess whole class learning, can’t enforce cameras on to check engagement, can’t circulate the room, can’t do paired or group work easily. It’s terrible.
By n8 dogg Go To PostOnline learning is absolutely dogshit. I hate it. Kids hate it. Can’t easily assess whole class learning, can’t enforce cameras on to check engagement, can’t circulate the room, can’t do paired or group work easily. It’s terrible.Can't do a lot of that stuff yet but shit if someone makes proper classroom software you could. It's not far off to be honest, people just have to decide if they want it.
The high school kids seemed to enjoy it in Japan, but of course high school you are expected to do your work and there is a little less on the teachers to force kids to study than I would say 4th thur 9th grade in Japan
By blackace Go To PostThese things are still doable, I don't believe kids should locked away at home, just cramming 60 kids on buses and 40+ kids in classrooms is necessary anymore.
Sure it is still doable. But the families and kids that needs that the most, are also the most likely not to get that done from my experience teaching at least. That's how it usually goes for these things.
But yeah, I dont disagree. While it's not ideal to keep the kids home again, it certainly isn't great to send them to covid hell either
By blackace Go To PostCan't do a lot of that stuff yet but shit if someone makes proper classroom software you could. It's not far off to be honest, people just have to decide if they want it.Education software is absolutely terrible and noone will ever make good education software. The talent and money will never be behind it.
The high school kids seemed to enjoy it in Japan, but of course high school you are expected to do your work and there is a little less on the teachers to force kids to study than I would say 4th thur 9th grade in Japan
By reilo Go To PostEducation software is absolutely terrible and noone will ever make good education software. The talent and money will never be behind it.Honestly, the current software available is simple features away from doing most of what needs to be done
By reilo Go To PostEducation software is absolutely terrible and noone will ever make good education software. The talent and money will never be behind it.Lol my university program was called Edutainment
Software Design.
Damn you Vygotsky!
By Perfect Blue Go To Postthey could have donated this shit
Oof. Not dissimilar at all to farmers dumping tons and tons of milk.
They can't even use the burberry excuse of protecting the brand name. who tf cares about TJ Maxx
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A business that’s touted as a convenience for home sellers has created a secret pipeline for big investors to buy properties, often in communities of color.
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