Horrendous news and so sad for all the needless suffering that no doubts follows, to people who did nothing wrong.
Didn't think we would see anything like that in modern Europe, but maybe history, or better some humans will never change.
Knowing what is going on and hearing politicians in Europe squirm to not cut off all russian financial transactions, because that would hurt us to much just makes me very sad.
Didn't think we would see anything like that in modern Europe, but maybe history, or better some humans will never change.
Knowing what is going on and hearing politicians in Europe squirm to not cut off all russian financial transactions, because that would hurt us to much just makes me very sad.
By markao Go To PostHorrendous news and so sad for all the needless suffering that no doubts follows, to people who did nothing wrong.
Didn't think we would see anything like that in modern Europe, but maybe history, or better some humans will never change.
Knowing what is going on and hearing politicians in Europe squirm to not cut off all russian financial transactions, because that would hurt us to much just makes me very sad.
Fucking infuriating stuff.
By Laboured Go To PostFucking infuriating stuff.
Nothing new when it comes to the EU's façade of unity and solidarity.
A war against Ukraine will be costly for Russia. How costly? Hard to know, but there's already footage of russian helicopters going down, plus russian tanks destroyed, and this in just a few hours. If Russia suffers heavy casualties, I don't see how Russian people can support this madness. Pair that, with heavy sactions and a complete isolation from the rest of the world. Depending on how this conflict unfolds, we might see in the future a split Russia, as not every territory in Russia is pro-Russia.
The West can't intervene, neither of the sides would want that. If there were US troops in Ukraine, this would lead to a huge conflict between two superpowers, with unthinkable consequences (possibly nuclear).
Btw, let's just get one thing clear: Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia. Is ilogical to think that a smaller/weaker/non-nuclear country would pose a threat to a nuclear superpower, period.
Now, and a bit off-topic, I would keep a close eye on China, who might take advantage of the world being distracted with the war on Ukraine, to invade Taiwan. Some other minor conflicts may occur as well.
The West can't intervene, neither of the sides would want that. If there were US troops in Ukraine, this would lead to a huge conflict between two superpowers, with unthinkable consequences (possibly nuclear).
Btw, let's just get one thing clear: Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia. Is ilogical to think that a smaller/weaker/non-nuclear country would pose a threat to a nuclear superpower, period.
Now, and a bit off-topic, I would keep a close eye on China, who might take advantage of the world being distracted with the war on Ukraine, to invade Taiwan. Some other minor conflicts may occur as well.
By Patriotism Go To PostBrother I'm hoping they're nowhere near any attacks and keep safeThank you. They are mostly around Kyiv and in a rural western part of the country. My fiancée’s dad hasn’t managed to reach the ones in Kyiv - I’d imagine they are fleeing like everyone else.
By Patriotism Go To PostNothing new when it comes to the EU's façade of unity and solidarity.
They seem pretty much in agreement regarding what won’t happen 🤷♂️
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThank you. They are mostly around Kyiv and in a rural western part of the country. My fiancée’s dad hasn’t managed to reach the ones in Kyiv - I’d imagine they are fleeing like everyone else.Damn dude, hope they make it out safe and sound.
Crazy 1 fucked up individual hell bent on saving his own legacy can cause so much BS for so many people.
A PT friend I know is Ukrainian and most of her family is in Ukraine currently. Trying to get them out of the country but she's obviously massively stressed about it.
Russia making it (extra) clear that if anyone publicly speaks out against the war they are going to jail.
By LFMartins86 Go To PostIt´s been awhile since I heard US fighter jets in the air here but just heard two right now.
Mad shit
Only the Russians can stop this now. Everybody else will just be praying to the almighty “somebody gotta do something” god.
Nukes changed the game. Not really sure what Ukrainian allies can do other than what they already are trying to do, I guess.
By s y Go To PostSo what's the most likely end scenario here?nope
Does any superpower check Russia and help Ukraine?
By s y Go To PostSo what's the most likely end scenario here?Countries will supply weapons and humanitarian help to Ukraine but no one will be fighting alongside Ukraine in the ground.
Does any superpower check Russia and help Ukraine?
That would fully trigger a World War 3 and Putin is absolutely insane, a madman with nukes is a huge threat.
Russian economy already took a monumental hit this morning even without any sanctions, tanking the Russian economy and isolating Russia is the next step.
“Well, I think the whole thing, again, would have never happened. It shouldn’t happen. And it’s a very sad thing,” Trump said. “But you know what is also very dangerous is, you told me about the amphibious attack by Americans, because you and everyone else shouldn’t know about it. They should do that secretly, not being doing that through the great Laura Ingraham. They should be doing that secretly. Nobody should know that, Laura.”It could be worse
Americans did not, in fact, launch an amphibious attack into the Ukraine
By DY_nasty Go To Postnope
By LFMartins86 Go To PostCountries will supply weapons and humanitarian help to Ukraine but no one will be fighting alongside Ukraine in the ground.So I guess Ukraine is just fucked
That would fully trigger a World War 3 and Putin is absolutely insane, a madman with nukes is a huge threat.
Russian economy already took a monumental hit this morning even without any sanctions, tanking the Russian economy and isolating Russia is the next step.
By s y Go To PostSo what's the most likely end scenario here?No, Ukraine is lost.
Does any superpower check Russia and help Ukraine?
Next step is for the lesser of the evils (Qatar through Turkey) to supply EU with gas instead of Russia, cut off Putin from the world network and trade (Swift), and starve his regime (and unfortunately the Russian people) of any oxygen.
But of course Putin won't really care, he doesn't give a fuck about people.
By Frustrated_me Go To PostNo, Ukraine is lost.Please don’t phrase it like that. The conflict is far from over and Ukrainians will never stop fighting.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostPlease don’t phrase it like that. The conflict is far from over and Ukrainians will never stop fighting.I'm sorry m8 but Ukraine as we know it is not coming back, that's just the reality of things. A puppet government will likely be installed by Russia and as such Ukraine will be cut off from the rest of the world, similary to what will likely happen to Belarus.
Russia is not going to lose a military conflict, Outin can't afford to lose face domestically.
Canada should open its borders to Ukrainians and help them find a new home here if they're willing to move.
while its incredible that ukraine has been holding out for years now, i really, really hope there's no underlying belief that they should drag things out and adopt some guerilla bullshit... russia is not gonna handle that like the US handles that.
By Frustrated_me Go To Post]A puppet government will likely be installed by Russia and as such Ukraine will be cut off from the rest of the world, similary to what will likely happen to Belarus.That seems like the best case scenario. An outright occupation of the country by Russian forces would be insane on so many levels.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThat seems like the best case scenario. An outright occupation of the country by Russian forces would be insane on so many levels.Yeah and they wouldn't be able to afford it for more than 6 months at most in any case, occupation is not cheap.
Dude took over Crimea and nothing happened. Now follows the rest. Look at those bitches in Europe.
Can't even get broad economical sanctions through because each country is going to lose some money over it. Trump wasn't wrong when he said certain nations are skimping on defense budgets. Economical power house Germany sending 5.000 helmets for defense, when asked for 100.000 safety vests the defense minister has to admit that we ain't got these numbers.
Imagine if Putin really started an offensiv on a NATO-member like one of the baltic nations.
It wouldn't look any different than now.
Can't even get broad economical sanctions through because each country is going to lose some money over it. Trump wasn't wrong when he said certain nations are skimping on defense budgets. Economical power house Germany sending 5.000 helmets for defense, when asked for 100.000 safety vests the defense minister has to admit that we ain't got these numbers.
Imagine if Putin really started an offensiv on a NATO-member like one of the baltic nations.
It wouldn't look any different than now.
By Old King Rob Go To PostWhyPutin/Thanos wants the Elephant’s Foot/Infinity Gauntlet.
This doesn’t even make sense
By Old King Rob Go To PostWhyClosest path to Kiyv from Belarus.
This doesn’t even make sense
It's going to be a sad day for many of you when Putin is gone and you realize retrospectively that Putin was merely a symptom.
By FligureSkatingFlan Go To PostIt's going to be a sad day for many of you when Putin is gone and you realize retrospectively that Putin was merely a symptom.I don't think anyone doubts that. Whoever replaces him we'll just say "Fuck [name] man, seriously. Fuck him to hell." instead
By FligureSkatingFlan Go To PostIt's going to be a sad day for many of you when Putin is gone and you realize retrospectively that Putin was merely a symptom.
Fuck Putin regardless.
By Laboured Go To PostFuckin' naaawwwwNow would be a good time for the Ukrainians to unleash the hoard of mutant Chernobylians they've obviously been hiding there for the past 36 years, Walking Dead-style.