The biggest on field issue was midfield yet again. Fred pressed well and definitely looks much better when instructed to play higher up. But he left so much space behind him which Matic hasn't the legs to cover. The latter was exposed badly tonight.
I don't think we should rush into making any signings this winter especially as Rangnick probably isn't continuing on into next season. But surely there's a player we could sign right now who'll come in and immediately improve midfield. Because right now we're appalling there.
I don't think we should rush into making any signings this winter especially as Rangnick probably isn't continuing on into next season. But surely there's a player we could sign right now who'll come in and immediately improve midfield. Because right now we're appalling there.
By Fergie Go To PostIt's crazy how many times teams look way more technical, physical, composed and just generally more consistent in their play than this "super team" United.
Do they train a certain way and just go full chaos on matchday?
dalot
lindelof
varane
telles
matic
fred
... that's half of your team, fergeh.
awful.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostIn this context, probably.
Sancho?
But could also easily be talking about Varane. Or VDB, or half a dozen players we've signed in recent years. United is such a dysfunctional club that we make all our players look shit.
The fact that Sancho has been so underwhelming for Utd while yielding City over £10m due to a sell-on fee is just chef's kiss.
Not sure I buy the shit team excuse for Sancho.
Plenty of players can shine while in a poor side.
See Arsenal.
Plenty of players can shine while in a poor side.
See Arsenal.
By Cleff Go To PostThe biggest on field issue was midfield yet again. Fred pressed well and definitely looks much better when instructed to play higher up. But he left so much space behind him which Matic hasn't the legs to cover. The latter was exposed badly tonight.It's all I ask.
I don't think we should rush into making any signings this winter especially as Rangnick probably isn't continuing on into next season. But surely there's a player we could sign right now who'll come in and immediately improve midfield. Because right now we're appalling there.
We're half way through Jan, we lack so much control its alarming.
Fred is OK up front, but we lack a metronome to dictate play and control the the game. The midfield is the core of all our issues. A good midfield protects the defence and provides adequate support to the attack.
Our midfield is a black hole and we are badly missing Pogba in the attack support.
There's so much work that needs to be done on the squad with regards to tactics, mentality or physicality etc etc. All the top sides work hard off the ball and really that's the first thing we need to work on. I was watching City/Chelsea today and was very impressed at City's workrate. They're obviously very technically competent and can dominate possession in a manner that isn't sterile. But when they lose the ball they immediately press to win it back. They're a team of serial winners that still empty themselves on the pitch. That's the sign of a well coached side with disciplined players.
If disciple is the only thing Rangnick manages to drill into the side then I'll take it. My expectations are rock bottom right now.
There's a half dozen new players required as well. Which is appalling considering all the money we've spent. Telles and Dalot simply aren't good enough and AWB is probably the same. Only Shaw would get anywhere near a top 4 side. Matic, Fred and McTominay all need replacing too. Or at the very least, bring in someone who is comfortable on the ball and who won't lose it when making forward passes.
If disciple is the only thing Rangnick manages to drill into the side then I'll take it. My expectations are rock bottom right now.
There's a half dozen new players required as well. Which is appalling considering all the money we've spent. Telles and Dalot simply aren't good enough and AWB is probably the same. Only Shaw would get anywhere near a top 4 side. Matic, Fred and McTominay all need replacing too. Or at the very least, bring in someone who is comfortable on the ball and who won't lose it when making forward passes.
We've been uncoached for 3 years.
I do think we need to scrap a lot of previous buys. I think Dalot is decent. AWB is done, and so is Telles.
But the midfield is where I would personally spend all my focus. We fix that we start looking decent. The attack receives support and the defence is protected and don't spend 90 minutes constantly under siege.
I do think we need to scrap a lot of previous buys. I think Dalot is decent. AWB is done, and so is Telles.
But the midfield is where I would personally spend all my focus. We fix that we start looking decent. The attack receives support and the defence is protected and don't spend 90 minutes constantly under siege.
Fuck me. Given chance after chance to impress, shits the bed, and then cunts off because we no longer trust him to perform. Sell him for anything you can get.
By Fergie Go To Postmaster tactician
By Cleff Go To PostSancho is struggling a lot, he underhits his passes too often and I think he looks surprised at how quick the game is. For Dortmund he made he stood out as being an elite young player because he made the correct decision on the ball so often. He looks utterly lost on the pitch right now.
But he's coming into a side that's also utterly shit so I won't give him too much stick. Context is important and is something United's online fanbase, more twitter and Redcafe than here, are doggedly refusing to acknowledge.
I think he'll come good in a side that's actually functioning. He played too well for Dortmund in the Bundesliga and CL to be a bad player. But I don't think he'll get away with another poor season next year of he has one.
Physically he just doesn’t look up for it. No pace, weak on the ball, no burst. Doesn’t react quick enough. He just doesn’t look suited for the tempo of the league
By domino Go To PostPhysically he just doesn’t look up for it. No pace, weak on the ball, no burst. Doesn’t react quick enough. He just doesn’t look suited for the tempo of the leagueI agree that he's struggling physically. He's also developed the habit of playing backwards. He looks so hesitant now. But I think the far bigger issue is how we play. There's no control over the ball in midfield. Our forwards get it in poor areas to start attacks, which often leads to them having to beat a man one on one when the defence is already set. That's not the best way to start an attack. We should be giving the ball to a winger in space after having split the defence or midfield. It gives them more time to commit a defender or make a pass or do whatever.
Sancho isn't Rashford or Greenwood; players who have the acceleration and physicality to dribble past a player even though they're starting off on a stationary position. What he does offer is intelligent movement, passing and link up play. Something we've barely seen from him. Some of that is definitely his fault as he looks very short on confidence right now. It's probably more of a structural issue overall though. We don't have the structure required to make those sort of passes.
I think it was N8 or Horse who compared him to a younger Mata. That's how we should be using him. Unfortunately, we never figured our how to use the actual Mata either. So who knows what'll happen.
By Vini.lad Go To PostUnited are getting worse under this new management…
Incredible.mp3
By Daz Go To PostUnited bros, I'm depressed.
Pls help.
By Daz Go To PostUnited bros, I'm depressed.Outside chance of another Bruno like desperation signing.
Pls help.
That's all I got.
If you're serious, at the end of the day it's just footy mate, lots of other stuff to do in life. Go for a lil run to clear your mind.
By Batong-TT Go To PostNeverton more competent than Utd?Almost.
The problem is not the manager, like it wasn't Ronaldo. It's everything. We are fundamentaly broken.
Ralf has been their first good decision. So long as he moves up stairs.
Benitez done in the PL I think. He’ll pop up at a smaller Spanish club at some point, or back in China, but have to say he’s for sure done at the top level. Looked like a retrograde appointment from the moment he started.
By n8 dogg Go To PostBenitez done in the PL I think. He’ll pop up at a smaller Spanish club at some point, or back in China, but have to say he’s for sure done at the top level. Looked like a retrograde appointment from the moment he started.