Pep and Zidane winning things immediately as rookie coaches really fucked over every single other club
It's kind of mad n8.
Arsenal appointed an ex-player, with no qualifications other than proximately to Pep, to one of the biggest jobs in football.
It might work, it might not, but Jesus Christ.
Arsenal appointed an ex-player, with no qualifications other than proximately to Pep, to one of the biggest jobs in football.
It might work, it might not, but Jesus Christ.
By n8 dogg Go To PostPep and Zidane winning things immediately as rookie coaches really fucked over every single other club
They were not exactly rookie coaches.
They both had experiences as B team coaches in the professional pyramid.
Arteta had nowhere near the experience of selecting a team and dealing with media like Pep and Zidane did before they took the top job.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostThey were not exactly rookie coaches.
They both had experiences as B team coaches in the professional pyramid.
Arteta had nowhere near the experience of selecting a team and dealing with media like Pep and Zidane did before they took the top job.
Well Xavi and Ole and Lampard all had previous experience too, but there’s very little guarantee that it will work at a top club. I think it’s just as interesting that the likes of Mou, Klopp, Tuchel etc had incredibly unremarkable careers.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostThey were not exactly rookie coaches.And Zidane was assistant coach to Don Carlo, Zidane was always around.
They both had experiences as B team coaches in the professional pyramid.
Arteta had nowhere near the experience of selecting a team and dealing with media like Pep and Zidane did before they took the top job.
Raul is the next to be groomed, he's in charge of the younglings in Castilla.
By n8 dogg Go To PostWell Xavi and Ole and Lampard all had previous experience too, but there’s very little guarantee that it will work at a top club. I think it’s just as interesting that the likes of Mou, Klopp, Tuchel etc had incredibly unremarkable careers.
Ole and Frank both were tasked with returning a club to glory. Pep and Zidane were a Couple seasons removed from winning the CL and arguably had the best player in the world in their team and superstars throughout. Zidane had also been part of the bench and was around the team a lot so already knew the club inside and out.
I do wonder how Zidane will fair at another club.
As for not having played at the highest level, to paraphrase Sacchi. You don’t have to be a horse to have be a jockey.
By Fergie Go To PostWhat an amazing team goal. In the mix there was Joe Scally -- this kid is a future star. He might already be one. NYCFC's academy has born some impressive fruit so far for a young team.
As other great goals, check this one out from MLS last night after a howler by the keeper.
By Hitch Go To PostI think we all overestimated that saving graceMemepiss was the savior how could you ever expect anything of them.
Thought they'd get top 4 despite being a mess, but they look miles away. Can easily see them having a prolonged period out of the CL given their shite squad and crippling debt.
By Cleff Go To PostThird season Mourinho occurs earlier and earlier.lol
By Cleff Go To PostThird season Mourinho occurs earlier and earlier.Any excuse to get the sack early. Just in time for the Newcastle job…
Has there been any serious analysis on the decline of Mourinho?
At one time he was arguably the best coach in the world, able to get Ferguson-esque performances out of players, and now he’s a joke.
Meanwhile Pep, although very different tactically and as a person, has aged like wine - succeeding in three separate leagues through many years.
At one time he was arguably the best coach in the world, able to get Ferguson-esque performances out of players, and now he’s a joke.
Meanwhile Pep, although very different tactically and as a person, has aged like wine - succeeding in three separate leagues through many years.
By Scum Go To PostAny excuse to get the sack early. Just in time for the Newcastle job…You see it.
By Scum Go To PostAny excuse to get the sack early. Just in time for the Newcastle job…
One of the worst case scenarios, imagine how he'd handle the lack of quality here if he can't even handle it at Roma. Imagine Mou managing Joelinton.
By Willkiller Go To PostOne of the worst case scenarios, imagine how he'd handle the lack of quality here if he can't even handle it at Roma. Imagine Mou managing Joelinton.He just wants back in the EPL tbh.
By Willkiller Go To PostOne of the worst case scenarios, imagine how he'd handle the lack of quality here if he can't even handle it at Roma. Imagine Mou managing Joelinton.
One does not simply "manage" Joelinton. One luxuriates.
By Hitch Go To PostWill vibes make Pique and Busquets 6 years younger?Magath did it with Raul right
It'll be funny if Xavi fails at Barça and they have to sack him. Conversely, it would not be funny if Gerrard replaces Klopp and fails.
By Meier Go To PostMadrid are gonna have to ride him out. No one will pay his salary until 2024.Agreed.
Can absolutely see the romanticism of a Chelsea return, but I don't think any football club, even a poorly run one, would take a player who's effectively permanently injured.
The Belgian Phil Jones.
By Tony Hank's Pro Skater Go To PostEden's tumble from grace.It's a garden no more
By Cleff Go To PostTed Lasso is for cunts confirmed.Off topic but Kyrsten Sinema has single handedly, inexplicably, paired back Biden's domestic agenda.
Like, opposing paid family leave & higher taxes on the rich/corporations. Mind Boggling.
Fingers crossed for a primary challenge.
By Hitch Go To Post'Ideal for all' lol😂😂
I think I meant ideal for all between Hazard and Madrid, but then again who would pay his wages.
He's broken.
I am confused about the Ajax-Cambuur game from today in the KNVB Cup. They wore Ajax shirts but they're like an Amateur team instead? Any Dutch posters want to shed some light?
By Laboured Go To Post@hitch
By Laboured Go To PostThe gang gets promoted
By Batong Go To Post@hitchAin't going all the way to Wrexham bruv
By Willkiller Go To PostOne of the worst case scenarios, imagine how he'd handle the lack of quality here if he can't even handle it at Roma. Imagine Mou managing Joelinton.
By Perfect Blue Go To Postare we still doing phrasing?
By Perfect Blue Go To PostFucking hell lmao
By Perfect Blue Go To PostYou're not supposed to bite ito it, You're supposed to let it splash all over your face and into your mouth
Was listening to James Horncastle talk about Contes philosophy and training methods. It all sounds completely the opposite of what we had under Mourinho and Solksjaer.
Everything you'd see his teams do during a match is meticulously preplanned and essentially rehearsed in training. He trains the side for two hours, breaks, then brings them in for a two hour video session to go over what they did right or wrong. He even runs 11 v 0 training drills where all he does is tell the recipient of the pass where he should position himself in order to make the best passing option available for the passer.
Sounds similarish to LVG, but the latter became too dogmatic in his beliefs that players shouldn't leave their particular zones on the pitch. Conte gives a bit more freedom of expression. And it's also entirely removed from Mourinho and Olé who drilled some vague attacking structure into the side, but expected the players to fill in the gaps.
He's probably less tactically flexible than Guardiola for instance, but if you want a coach that's near the head of his field this is the kind of guy we should be after.
Everything you'd see his teams do during a match is meticulously preplanned and essentially rehearsed in training. He trains the side for two hours, breaks, then brings them in for a two hour video session to go over what they did right or wrong. He even runs 11 v 0 training drills where all he does is tell the recipient of the pass where he should position himself in order to make the best passing option available for the passer.
Sounds similarish to LVG, but the latter became too dogmatic in his beliefs that players shouldn't leave their particular zones on the pitch. Conte gives a bit more freedom of expression. And it's also entirely removed from Mourinho and Olé who drilled some vague attacking structure into the side, but expected the players to fill in the gaps.
He's probably less tactically flexible than Guardiola for instance, but if you want a coach that's near the head of his field this is the kind of guy we should be after.
After the lax laisez faire approach, I think this sort of regime would bring us to equilibrium
it can't all be vibes.
it can't all be vibes.
By Daz Go To PostAfter the lax laisez faire approach, I think this sort of regime would bring us to equilibriumHorncastle also made a good point about Conte preparing Uniteds players for whomever the next coach will be. Whether it's say Potter or Poch or Ten Hag etc etc, they'll all train their players using the same methods that Conte would have drilled into Uniteds already. Their style of play may be different, but they're all coaches that put value in positional awareness, which is what Conte prizes.
it can't all be vibes.
If we want a coach to drag us into the modern way of training and playing football, then Conte really seems the best choice.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is thank fuck Spurs didn't get him.
And to preemptively say fuck Joel Glazer for when he doesn't appoint him.
And to preemptively say fuck Joel Glazer for when he doesn't appoint him.
By Cleff Go To PostWas listening to James Horncastle talk about Contes philosophy and training methods. It all sounds completely the opposite of what we had under Mourinho and Solksjaer.
Everything you'd see his teams do during a match is meticulously preplanned and essentially rehearsed in training. He trains the side for two hours, breaks, then brings them in for a two hour video session to go over what they did right or wrong. He even runs 11 v 0 training drills where all he does is tell the recipient of the pass where he should position himself in order to make the best passing option available for the passer.
Sounds similarish to LVG, but the latter became too dogmatic in his beliefs that players shouldn't leave their particular zones on the pitch. Conte gives a bit more freedom of expression. And it's also entirely removed from Mourinho and Olé who drilled some vague attacking structure into the side, but expected the players to fill in the gaps.
He's probably less tactically flexible than Guardiola for instance, but if you want a coach that's near the head of his field this is the kind of guy we should be after.
Well the idea that Conte is Mou 2.0 is complete nonsense, not really too sure where that started
By Willkiller Go To PostWell the idea that Conte is Mou 2.0 is complete nonsense, not really too sure where that startedI think the Mou 2.0 comes from some recent stories reported in the press about United not wanting another toxic personality falling out with the players. But Horncastle made it clear that as far as he knew Contes problems were usually with the executives rather than the players. Only player he ever really had big issues with was Diego Costa.
Really it's just Woodward and the Glazers not wanting to look like fools when Conte calls them out on their bullshit.
By Meier Go To PostI am confused about the Ajax-Cambuur game from today in the KNVB Cup. They wore Ajax shirts but they're like an Amateur team instead? Any Dutch posters want to shed some light?It is the 2nd team. (youngsters plus few players coming back from injuries)
They used to play against other 2nd teams years back, but 2nd division had all kind of problems(financial/quality) and prof clubs could let their 2nd team play in that competition, some (like Ajax) did and hence they play in the cup as well.