By Pennywise Go To PostThere's obviously an amount where they won't say no. Wouldn't surprise me if Chelsea secure him this window, because next year is gonna be far more difficult.
Highly doubt Chelsea will pay that much, but if there is any chance for Chelsea to meet the Dortmund requirements... I think they should go all in. There is a decent alternatives, but this is truly the way.
By Wahabipapagooz Go To PostIf Southgate or anyone else think you can translate best pen takers from training, directly to a shootout in the most important match for his country on forever, then that's fucking amazing.It's definitely tough to say without team insights. I agree that training doesn't mean shit. It's a final, it's not about how well you can shoot a penalty, it's about how confident you feel to score it.
He shouldn't be excluded purely for his age. But also his inexperience. Never taken a pen at pro level, but start with the deciding pen at final? Sounds fucking crazy to me.
But sure. Southgate and Saka knows best about pressure. That showed well yesterday. Everyone else are just armchair pundits and looking back with hindsight. Same with the two subs that barely played all tournament coming on to take one lol
But whatever, I was hoping for Italy anyway. If this had happened to Copenhagen or Denmark I would be fuming at the manager though
Very old example but Matthäus clearly was a very good penalty taker for Germany, possibly the best, but shat his pants in the 1990 final and let Brehme take it. That won Germany the title.
But again, we don't know what the situation for England was, who seemed confident and who didn't. But nonetheless, subbing in 2 players you have basically ignored all tournament and then have a 19-year-old take the last one isn't a good look, even if they were willing to take them.
By Wahabipapagooz Go To PostHighly doubt Chelsea will pay that much, but if there is any chance for Chelsea to meet the Dortmund requirements… I think they should go all in. There is a decent alternatives, but this is truly the way.
Could raise a very decent chunk of that through player sales tbf, I could see it
By Wahabipapagooz Go To PostHighly doubt Chelsea will pay that much, but if there is any chance for Chelsea to meet the Dortmund requirements… I think they should go all in. There is a decent alternatives, but this is truly the way.Well either you pay more now for one of the hottest prospects or you'll battle it out next year, when there's a 90m € or so release clause.
Even if it's a lot of money, I think it would be the smartest move to sort out that position, cause you could easily have the position solved for the next 6-8 years.
By Daz Go To PostRashford's mural apparently defaced.Had a guy on my train back home curse Rashford saying the lines of 'fuck those free school meals man, should have focused on the football'.
I now feel less bad that England didn't win.
Smh.
By Pennywise Go To PostWell either you pay more now for one of the hottest prospects or you'll battle it out next year, when there's a 90m € or so release clause.
Even if it's a lot of money, I think it would be the smartest move to sort out that position, cause you could easily have the position solved for the next 6-8 years.
Not saying I wouldnt like that to happen. Just that I dont think it will.
By Willkiller Go To PostCould raise a very decent chunk of that through player sales tbf, I could see it
Could Mike Ashley buy Euros winner Emerson pls?
By Wahabipapagooz Go To PostCould Mike Ashley buy Euros winner Emerson pls?
Let me stop you there
Was weird af reading people accusing him and others of being “scared” to take a penalty as if that isn’t entirely Southgate’s decision.
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
Was weird af reading people accusing him and others of being “scared” to take a penalty as if that isn’t entirely Southgate’s decision.
I don’t think it should be a manager’s decision. The players in that huddle know if they can take one or not.
By n8 dogg Go To PostDCL is rank averageGood that you think that
Hopefully your club think that and leave him alone this summer
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI don’t think it should be a manager’s decision. The players in that huddle know if they can take one or not.That’s silly. With that line of thinking why not let the players decide the formation, tactics, and who starts as well since they know where they can play and if they’re fit. Why even bother having a manager at all.
By faridmon Go To PostGood that you think that
Hopefully your club think that and leave him alone this summer
Yep. Don’t want him.
Average is harsh, but he wasn’t going to change the game
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/luke-shaw-and-dan-james-discuss-taking-penalties-in-the-europa-league-final-and-for-euro-2020
With a goal already, a great season, a great tournament, and a converted penalty in a final, you pick the 19 year old Arsenal player who never even scored a penalty in a real game?
just sayin
England have tasted defeat three times on spot-kicks in the European Championship finals and Shaw says penalties are certainly something the players will be practising.
"I think to win in major tournaments, there'll maybe be a time when you're going to have a penalty shoot-out and we're going to have to be ready for it.
With a goal already, a great season, a great tournament, and a converted penalty in a final, you pick the 19 year old Arsenal player who never even scored a penalty in a real game?
just sayin
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThat’s silly. With that line of thinking why not let the players decide the formation, tactics, and who starts as well since they know where they can play and if they’re fit. Why even bother having a manager at all.
Because penalties shootouts are not about technique. It is about having the confidence and the balls to step up. Players know themselves in that situation. You are either feeling it or not. There will always be two or three players who absolutely must take once, but the rest is about how you are feeling at that moment.
Would Bonucci be one of the best five penalty takers for Italy? No, but he is a man for the moment.
By Euros-batong Go To PostHad a guy on my train back home curse Rashford saying the lines of 'fuck those free school meals man, should have focused on the football'.Its why I don't feel bad England lost. Still pissed at how the game was managed.
Smh.
55 years of hurt has not humbled this country - so it must continue.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostBecause penalties shootouts are not about technique. It is about having the confidence and the balls to step up. Players know themselves in that situation. You are either feeling it or not. There will always be two or three players who absolutely must take once, but the rest is about how you are feeling at that moment.I’ll agree to disagree, but I can see your point. I think the manager is the best positioned to pick who takes penalties and the order because he’s in the best position to balance the needs and feelings of individuals vs what is ultimately best for the team.
Would Bonucci be one of the best five penalty takers for Italy? No, but he is a man for the moment.
you can definitely practise and get better at taking penalties.
but the pressure is so immense that confidence plays a bigger role in a shootout.
still, knowing how to take a good penalty + confidence is always better than not really knowing how to take a good penalty + confidence.
but the pressure is so immense that confidence plays a bigger role in a shootout.
still, knowing how to take a good penalty + confidence is always better than not really knowing how to take a good penalty + confidence.
I think it's silly for a manager to pick the pen takers, only the players know who are up to it. rashford and Beloit both looked scared to death walking up to the spot
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By FligureSkatingFlan Go To PostNo one from England has ever tugged a shirt. A nation of upstanding gentlemen.Incredible really lol
They really desrve to lose based on that alone lol
By bud Go To PostLooks like based off earlier in the clip and his positioning that he's probably pointing to Grealish for 8. That would mean Shaw, Sterling and Stones make up 9-11. Obviously there's a method to this, but I'm still amazed at it. Players' experience in huge games really needs to come into the equation you'd think.
big (if true)
People will wonder forever about this and that's the nature of penalties sadly. I do feel bad for Pickford though.. that save on Jorginho really seemed prime to make all the difference to me. If England score their 5th after that, surely they go on to win.. surely?!
Pickford had a really good tournaments.
Hopefully that translates into his season form. Really dreading the mistake prone Pickford to come back again
Hopefully that translates into his season form. Really dreading the mistake prone Pickford to come back again
its kinda of crazy how pickford actually saved italy's 5th pen
almost as crazy as southgate's picks for pens
almost as crazy as southgate's picks for pens
By Xpike Go To Postits kinda of crazy how pickford actually saved italy's 5th penHe does have OK record at saving penalties for us
almost as crazy as southgate's picks for pens
Southgate really did fuck it up by choosing teenagers for high stakes Penalty shootout
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
Was weird af reading people accusing him and others of being “scared” to take a penalty as if that isn’t entirely Southgate’s decision.
If he really wanted to take one, he'd have took one.
Big difference between wanting to take one and taking one if asked
These England fans (the crazy ones from yesterday) are insane
I thought hooliganism was a thing of the past?
England did a good on the premier league, most of the fans that attended the games seem proper good people, can't talk about lower leagues.
Where the fuck do those cunts from yesterday hide during the season?
I'm sure the FA or whatever responsable entity can do something about those pricks.
England is a 1st world country, come on.
I thought hooliganism was a thing of the past?
England did a good on the premier league, most of the fans that attended the games seem proper good people, can't talk about lower leagues.
Where the fuck do those cunts from yesterday hide during the season?
I'm sure the FA or whatever responsable entity can do something about those pricks.
England is a 1st world country, come on.
By Vini.lad Go To PostEngland is a 1st world country, come on.lmao
By Vini.lad Go To PostThese England fans (the crazy ones from yesterday) are insane
I thought hooliganism was a thing of the past?
England did a good on the premier league, most of the fans that attended the games seem proper good people, can't talk about lower leagues.
Where the fuck do those cunts from yesterday hide during the season?
I'm sure the FA or whatever responsable entity can do something about those pricks.
England is a 1st world country, come on.
Lower League fans are even much better, kinder folks than your Premier League fan.
The issue is the ENGLAND fans that tend to follow the team to countries and start shit in cities. This Euros also have been pigbacked by right wing assohles and Boris Jhonson supporters who don't like football but like to spout British superiority because England got far in the tournament.
People watch The Crown or Downton Abbey and think that’s what it’s like here. It’s mostly the opposite.
By Marston Go To PostPeople watch The Crown or Downton Abbey and think that’s what it’s like here. It’s mostly the opposite.Is it like Top Boy?
By World B. Flat Go To Postbutthurt englanders🤔
love to see it
too bad they go home and beat their wives
Inter and João Mário have agreed to terminate the contract and João Mário is free to sign with Benfica.
Good riddance, just shows that his claims of love to Sporting were fake as shit.
Decent player but not worth breaking our wage limit over him, Benfica are going to pay him as much as we pay our other 5 midfielders.
Good riddance, just shows that his claims of love to Sporting were fake as shit.
Decent player but not worth breaking our wage limit over him, Benfica are going to pay him as much as we pay our other 5 midfielders.
Give it up for Zoro, who shink shanked his way into banter immortality. Not a truer Italian has ever lived.
By domino Go To PostIs it like Top Boy?
Top Boy is a bit exaggerated but mostly spot on.
DJ Roomba
Wooden's cummy boy
Bonucci
Slabhead
Cub (would've been Spinazzola if he hadn't blown his tendon)
Arsenal Soft Lad
Ballon d'or-winner, Jorginho
Pedri
Sterling
Schick
Church
Wooden's cummy boy
Bonucci
Slabhead
Cub (would've been Spinazzola if he hadn't blown his tendon)
Arsenal Soft Lad
Ballon d'or-winner, Jorginho
Pedri
Sterling
Schick
Church
By Perfect Blue Go To PostKen Early thinks Southgate is done as England manager.Not a chance. He's surpassed any and all expectations and will stay through the WC at least IMO.
Obviously knew Sterling was pretty short, but surprised to see he's noticeably shorter than everyone else.Unlucky for Walker or Stones to not be in the TOTT but obviously was a crowded field for defenders as evidenced by Spinazzola not being there.
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