NBA Playoffs 2021 | CP3 Chokes Again | #alwayslaust

I would love a firm ruling on Duncan. US Virgin Islands, denied all sorts of rights, but still a US Citizen by birth.

Fuck it, if you don't have rights, you're international.

Duncan = International GOAT.

By reilo Go To PostIf Tim Duncan counts I'd argue he could be 1.

I wouldn't..But it is worth talking about.. Timmy is a great champ and a great 2 way player, but Dream, Dirk and so far Giannis took over series. There were many times in the playoffs where Timmy wasn't even the best international player on his team. He played his role perfectly and his career speaks for itself, but would you rather have prime Dream leading your team or TD with no idea how the rest of your roster looks?

Shoot, both Timmy's MVPs are kind of suspect too.. I kind of feel the Lakers got jobbed twice. I can see Shaq losing the first one.. But Kobe was the MVP of 2002.

By blackace Go To PostShoot, both Timmy's MVPs are kind of suspect too.. I kind of feel the Lakers got jobbed twice. I can see Shaq losing the first one.. But Kobe was the MVP of 2002.

My god, have you slipped so far and forgotten... fuck the Lakers.

I don't know how TD is international all of a sudden.

And I like Dirk but Giannis just did some Shaq w/ a work ethic shit.

By Pac-12 Go To PostMy god, have you slipped so far and forgotten… fuck the Lakers.

TD does have an amazing stat that he has NEVER once committed a foul.

By DY_nasty Go To PostI don't know how TD is international all of a sudden.

And I like Dirk but Giannis just did some Shaq w/ a work ethic shit.

And Shaq is one of the greatest players to play the game, even lazy,..

Dirks teams were the #1 seed numerous times and he choked in the playoffs time after time. One win and we’re putting him over Duncan now?

Dirk was great but man there's just no way that he is ahead of Duncan

By aka Espi Go To PostDirks teams were the #1 seed numerous times and he choked in the playoffs time after time. One win and we’re putting him over Duncan now?

Dirk was one of the best offensive players on the planet for a few years..

By blackace Go To PostDirk was one of the best offensive players on the planet for a few years..

when the fuck was this lol

By blackace Go To Post
TD does have an amazing stat that he has NEVER once committed a foul.

Not even once in the NBA. Though a few times obviously against Duke in college, I felt like he got a favorable whistle every now and then.

By aka Espi Go To PostDirks teams were the #1 seed numerous times and he choked in the playoffs time after time. One win and we’re putting him over Duncan now?

-"Numerous": they were the #1 seed literally one time, they got that seed with Avery Johnson overworking a team with fucking Josh Howard as the #2 option, and the #8 seed was on an insane shooting streak with Dirk's former coach who knew how to exploit him by defending him with smaller guys... after that Dirk learned how to post up smaller guys and that's a big reason they won it all in 2011.

-Duncan also lost as a #1 seed LOL why does everyone forget this. Duncan had a way better team than Dirk that year and still got punked by Zach Randolph

By DY_nasty Go To Postwhen the fuck was this lol

in 2006-2007 he was shooting 50-40-90 as a PF that couldn't dribble. That man created a fadeaway that was just pissing people off.

I know there were other players capable of scoring mad buckets, like Kobe and Wade at time, but his package was pretty fucking tough..

By blackace Go To Postin 2006-2007 he was shooting 50-40-90 as a PF that couldn't dribble. That man created a fadeaway that was just pissing people off.

I know there were other players capable of scoring mad buckets, like Kobe and Wade at time, but his package was pretty fucking tough..

i read that as "the best" not "one of the best" so i tripped ngl

By DY_nasty Go To Posti read that as "the best" not "one of the best" so i tripped ngl

Ah.. fair enough!

By blackace Go To PostI wouldn't..But it is worth talking about.. Timmy is a great champ and a great 2 way player, but Dream, Dirk and so far Giannis took over series. There were many times in the playoffs where Timmy wasn't even the best international player on his team. He played his role perfectly and his career speaks for itself, but would you rather have prime Dream leading your team or TD with no idea how the rest of your roster looks?

if you're counting timmy as international, there's no way dirk is ahead of him. Edges dream out too. Prime duncan defense? shiiiiit.

He's had more than his fair share of dominant playoff series performances

27 and 17 vs Dirk in 01 playoffs.
28 and 12 vs Shaq in 03 playoffs. Led the series in points and rebounds.
2005 finals. led the series in points and rebounds.

but anyways, there's no way Duncan is an international player cmon

Yeah I mean just because the US government disenfranchises people in the territories doesn't make them foreigners

Would people say JJ Barea isn't American?

99% of nba players would be foreigners in that case

I never saw Hakeem, but Giannis is the best non-American born player I have seen. Hakeem is I’m guessing the only player who can compete with him there.

Giannis is without doubt the best player who didn’t play pre-NBA ball in America. Only Dirk and in the future Luka and Jokic are really in that discussion.

By blackace Go To PostI wouldn't..But it is worth talking about.. Timmy is a great champ and a great 2 way player, but Dream, Dirk and so far Giannis took over series. There were many times in the playoffs where Timmy wasn't even the best international player on his team. He played his role perfectly and his career speaks for itself, but would you rather have prime Dream leading your team or TD with no idea how the rest of your roster looks?

Tim's career spanned 3 generations and he was great in every single one of them

Giannis went from skilless forced superstar the GOAT in a matter of a month eh

By sy Go To Postif you're counting timmy as international, there's no way dirk is ahead of him. Edges dream out too. Prime duncan defense? shiiiiit.

He's had more than his fair share of dominant playoff series performances

27 and 17 vs Dirk in 01 playoffs.
28 and 12 vs Shaq in 03 playoffs. Led the series in points and rebounds.
2005 finals. led the series in points and rebounds.

but anyways, there's no way Duncan is an international player cmon

TD was a defensive beast, Dream and him look fairly comparable tho in stats.. Dream crushes him in blocks and steals tho.
TD edges him drtg barely and has a good lead on him in dws but Dream played on some bummy teams in the start

By diehard Go To PostGiannis went from skilless forced superstar the GOAT in a matter of a month eh

Ring = everything

By diehard Go To PostGiannis went from skilless forced superstar the GOAT in a matter of a month eh

a good finals run is almost as powerful as a good summer league

By DY_nasty Go To Posta good finals run is almost as powerful as a good summer league

The Klaw was the heir apparent after his..

By diehard Go To PostGiannis went from skilless forced superstar the GOAT in a matter of a month eh

I mean those were bad takes even before he dropped 50 in a Finals closeout game.

wasn't just the 50 piece he was unreal through the whole series

not too long ago people were in here trying to juelz a finals mvp run out of stephs performance 😂

Not even just the 50 points and magically improved free throws, his rim protection was crazy too. There was one in particular where he just baited Booker to drive into the paint before swatting his shot to half court

The Adetokunbos had four more sons, all born in Greece, including Giannis on Dec. 6, 1994. (Antetokounmpo became Giannis’ surname after it was spelled that way on his Greek passport instead of his birth name of Adetokunbo.)

So his last name is the Greek phonetic spelling of a Nigerian surname? TIL

Hall of Famer Hakeem Olajuwon, who is arguably the greatest international basketball player of all time and one of the greatest NBA players, also has a Nigerian connection with Antetokounmpo. Olajuwon told The Undefeated that he and Antetokounmpo are Yoruba.

“I know from his last name that we are from the same tribe, the Yoruba tribe. His last name, which in Yoruba is spelled Adetokunbo, means ‘the crown has returned from overseas,’ ” Olajuwon said.

it's not phonetic spelling. they had to convert the roman alphabet "Adetokunbo" into the greek alphabet when they came to greece (Αντετοκούνμπο) and then they put it back letter for letter into the roman alphabet for his passport not knowing what it was beforehand and got it wrong.

well excuse me for not knowing words and proper usage and things mr smartie pants

thank you for the clarification

By Not Go To Postwell excuse me for not knowing words and proper usage and things mr smartie pants

thank you for the clarification

excuuuuusseeee me

his Yoruba surname "Adetokunbo" means "king from overseas" lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adetokunbo

The Twitter fighting about Giannis background is pretty entertaining. The Greeks now claim him but didn't prior to him being an NBA player and hate when it's brought up that he was stateless, Nigerians fight about him cause he's Yoruba and Igbo and both try to say that 1 side is responsible for his greatness.

Going to have to side with the Yoruba on this one

Said it 2 years ago, I like the Suns core of Booker, Ayton, Bridges, Johnson.

For their first time in the play offs, first year with a new system, they played incredibly well. Had a huge run. And 2 games away from a chip.

Montys a good coach and as long as the culture holds, this should be a contending core for a long time.

They need to get more out of Bridges and their other wings on offense. They need a better backup big (I think Frank should have got a lot more minutes all series, hell, I would have played him with Ayton, and stuck him in the corner with Lopez).

Saric had a very odd season where he was up and down all season, and he put on a ton of weight. Felt like covid / injuries really stalled him ever getting back into game shape. But they desperately need a back up big that can also play with the starting unit to play against teams that play big.

Suns could never punish the bucks in games 3 - 6 for staying big. CP3 being nullified as a ball handler was bad. Said it during the finals but it looked like that shoulder injury was flaring up and causing him to lose his handle a lot. (Not taking anything from the defense, but he lost the ball a lot in situations with little pressure too). But with him being nullified and a loose handle, he wasn't able to get it out to the wings ever. Never could cause defenses to adjust to him.

They need to figure out a more diverse offense too in situations where CP3 or Booker are struggling to create. Release valves. How to get Ayton consistent touches in the post. How to get the wings more involved as more than just spot up shooters.

Hopefully next years finals they'll be better prepared, meet the bucks again. But win it this time. Would be a great story for both the NBA and both franchises (1 each).

By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThe Twitter fighting about Giannis background is pretty entertaining. The Greeks now claim him but didn't prior to him being an NBA player and hate when it's brought up that he was stateless, Nigerians fight about him cause he's Yoruba and Igbo and both try to say that 1 side is responsible for his greatness.

lmao

giannis too busy to care anyway, good for him

Americans will claim him soon.

By DiPro Go To PostAmericans will claim him soon.

By DiPro Go To PostAmericans will claim him soon.

We got his son, have you seen the wingspan on that baby? Gotta be at least 3'8" already

We gave Giannis his first smoothie and blew his mind
He was American after that

By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThe Twitter fighting about Giannis background is pretty entertaining. The Greeks now claim him but didn't prior to him being an NBA player and hate when it's brought up that he was stateless, Nigerians fight about him cause he's Yoruba and Igbo and both try to say that 1 side is responsible for his greatness.

I notice the Nigerian folks like to have a little fun and banter when it comes to their own. Both online and with my IRL Nigerian friends

By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostThe Twitter fighting about Giannis background is pretty entertaining. The Greeks now claim him but didn't prior to him being an NBA player and hate when it's brought up that he was stateless, Nigerians fight about him cause he's Yoruba and Igbo and both try to say that 1 side is responsible for his greatness.

Isn’t this just Europe in general?

Everyone’s a foreigner until they’re a successful athlete.

By aka Espi Go To PostIsn’t this just every country in general?

Everyone’s a foreigner until they’re a successful athlete.

yes.
goes the other way too. Oh you left so we dont own you. Oh you have done something amazing? Well you know where you are really from right?

Nah. America would love if LeBron left and decided to live in Canada or some shit

By aka Espi Go To PostNah. America would love if LeBron left and decided to live in Canada or some shit

especially the progressive whites

they know who they are

we tried to claim Ben Roethlisberger. shameful.

By DiPro Go To Postwe tried to claim Ben Roethlisberger. shameful.

The gray dick rapist? Smh

By Kibner Go To PostThe gray dick rapist? Smh

I think he was actually on the Swiss payroll for a min.

By Kibner Go To PostThe gray dick rapist? Smh

to be fair the attempt was in 2006, years before this was known/happened. shameful anyway.

Instead of international vs US I tend to classify based on if they dealt with NCAA fuckary or not