good to see a new legend is born.
By knux-future Go To Postanybody want a slightly used Ben Simmons.can't wait for the hype train to commence when we start seeing ben simmons shooting mix tape!
He's in the gym and this is totally the year he starts to shoot.
promise.
By n8 dogg Go To PostKidd sounds a doucheLittle things were made to be a big deal: At one point center Thon Maker didn’t have an iPhone, messing up the team’s blue-bubble iPhone group chat. Kidd was upset about it and made the team run because Kidd felt that Maker not getting an iPhone was an example of the team not being united
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Stephen Jackson called the Bucks a superteam this morning. I feel like superlatives no longer have meaning if you go that far. May as well call Jason Terry and Tyson Chandler HoFers for 2011.
Middleton is a borderline All Star and that's pretty much exactly what he is as a player.
Middleton is a borderline All Star and that's pretty much exactly what he is as a player.
Middleton got some friends at the networks because they have really gassed him on these shows the last few weeks
Welcome to the post-Finals hyperbole train everyone!
Giannis is already being talked about as "best international player ever".
When's the draft?
Giannis is already being talked about as "best international player ever".
When's the draft?
Middleton is a 2 time allstar IIRC. Jrue made it once.
Thus superteam
checkmate atheists
edit; Lopez made it once too...as did Teague.
asterisk chip confrimed.
Thus superteam
checkmate atheists
edit; Lopez made it once too...as did Teague.
asterisk chip confrimed.
By aka Espi Go To PostJust pour sugar in your mouthI'm saying
By reilo Go To PostWelcome to the post-Finals hyperbole train everyone!How is he not??
Giannis is already being talked about as "best international player ever".
When's the draft?
Not even a lotto pick to 2x MVP, finals MVP, dpoty
By n8 dogg Go To PostKidd sounds a doucheSome have already mentioned it but I'm here to reiterate this dude is a wife beating dick and generally an alcoholic asshole. Can't wait for the Mavs season.
By reilo Go To PostYou just listed less credentials than Hakeem hasI forgot he existed but I'll die on this hill
Die away. There's also Dirk, Tony Parker, Yao, and if we want to get into it depending how you feel about Steve Nash, etc.
And if we are putting on qualifiers like "not a lotto pick" + "MVP" + "young" then you got Nikola Jokic right there, too, etc.
And who knows how good Drazen Petrovic would've been had he not died young.
And if we are putting on qualifiers like "not a lotto pick" + "MVP" + "young" then you got Nikola Jokic right there, too, etc.
And who knows how good Drazen Petrovic would've been had he not died young.
By reilo Go To PostWelcome to the post-Finals hyperbole train everyone!
Giannis is already being talked about as "best international player ever".
When's the draft?
he'll probably get there when he's already accomplished this much at 26
By reilo Go To PostDie away. There's also Dirk, Tony Parker, Yao, and if we want to get into it depending how you feel about Steve Nash, etc.Tony, Yao or jokic ain't even in the conversation wtf 🤣🤣
And if we are putting on qualifiers like "not a lotto pick" + "MVP" + "young" then you got Nikola Jokic right there, too, etc.
And who knows how good Drazen Petrovic would've been had he not died young.
Nobody cares about couldawoulda petrovic either.
Giannis is no lower than #2
dang, hall of famers, champions, finals mvps, and mvps aren't in the conversation
Stick to complaining about other people's art
Stick to complaining about other people's art
By saying Hakeem is the best international player of all time? Damn, you got me.
Try not to get your ass banned while you die on that hill.
Try not to get your ass banned while you die on that hill.
Hakeem is the best international player ever, but it's between Dirk and Giannis for who is the best European. If you wanna get nit picky though, Giannis and Dirk were developed by pro-clubs before they got to the NBA, they never got a hint of the US developmental pipeline until they got to the NBA, while Hakeem was in college for 3 years.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostHakeem is the best international player ever, but it's between Dirk and Giannis for who is the best European. If you wanna get nit picky though, Giannis and Dirk were developed by pro-clubs before they got to the NBA, they never got a hint of the US developmental pipeline until they got to the NBA, while Hakeem was in college for 3 years.How nitpicky do we want to really get because Tim Duncan and the Virgin Islands debate and all that
Giannis is probably two already, behind Hakeem. Dirk if you give him longevity but Giannis is a more devastating basketball player (not to slight Dirk at all, who is an offensive genius). If Giannis wins another ring or two, he can take the title from Hakeem, too.
Giannis is def #2
Another ring he’s #1 already
He play for Team USA he’s ours
Another ring he’s #1 already
By reilo Go To PostHow nitpicky do we want to really get because Tim Duncan and the Virgin Islands debate and all that
He play for Team USA he’s ours
If we keep the comparison as strict as possible, assuming Hakeem is no.1. Giannis only competition for 2nd place is Dirk and Giannis' accomplishments at 26 already edges out Dirks career, pretty easily unless you throw defense away.
1 more ring and finals MVP and he edges Hakeem too 🤷♂️
1 more ring and finals MVP and he edges Hakeem too 🤷♂️
Hakeem turned in his international card when he played for the Dream Team.
The best international player ever is easily Luol Deng.
The best international player ever is easily Luol Deng.
By masud Go To PostIsn't Duncan from the US Virgin islands?Never played in the US stateside system as a teen and Virgin Islands might as well be its own country given they can't even vote in US elections. So if Hakeem counts, I don't see why Tim Duncan wouldn't.
IDK we are seemingly disqualifying dudes right now who ended up being US citizens, but Tim Duncan's basketball upbringing isn't much different from Hakeem's so why not.
Are we just gonna ignore that reilo put Tony Parker ahead of Giannis in terms of best international players?
I didn't but some of you walked into that conversation literally saying "forgot Hakeem existed" so y'all can stop being prisoner-of-the-moment any day now
By some you mean sy
Got a chance to resume reading that article about Giannis and this excerpt is hilarious
Got a chance to resume reading that article about Giannis and this excerpt is hilarious
“You see Batum?” Oppenheimer said to Giannis.
Giannis nodded.
“Look at him,” Oppenheimer said. “Really look at him. He’s a really good player. If you work really hard, you might be able to be a Nic Batum type of player.”
Giannis stared at his coach for a second, not frowning but looking surprised. A bit offended. “Coach,” Giannis said, “if I become Nic Batum, I’m going back to Greece.”
By reilo Go To PostHow nitpicky do we want to really get because Tim Duncan and the Virgin Islands debate and all that
4 years at Wake Forrest though, think of how badly Coach K would have messed up Giannis if he had him for 4 years.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To Post4 years at Wake Forrest though, think of how badly Coach K would have messed up Giannis if he had him for 4 years.He'd have the play style of a Plumlee...
Giannis at this rate will be the greatest international player in about 5 years and is probably the 2nd best now... 3rd at the lowest.
If you look at him and Hakeem head to head you can see it. He just needs to avoid injury.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/giannis_antetokounmpo_vs_hakeem_olajuwon.htm
If you look at him and Hakeem head to head you can see it. He just needs to avoid injury.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/giannis_antetokounmpo_vs_hakeem_olajuwon.htm
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To Postthey never got a hint of the US developmental pipeline until they got to the NBAThe secret sauce
By Pac-12 Go To PostBan bricks and mullet.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostWhere does Gallinari rank in the list of international stars?slightly better than batum, worse than guys like hedo i guess?
he's never been *bad* just hobbled by injuries and put in situations where a player of his caliber was never going to move the needle for a team
Shit let's try to make a top 10 International players list..
I think most people agree that
1) Hakeem
After that I would have
2A) Dirk
2B) Giannis
4) Tim Duncan
Any thoughts so far?
I think most people agree that
1) Hakeem
After that I would have
2A) Dirk
2B) Giannis
4) Tim Duncan
Any thoughts so far?