Shouldn’t .... “we’ve suffered a year just give us any fucking help Please” mentalities benefit Dems when Reps are voting no?
I gotta have hope. Manchin even seems open to the talking filibuster
By blackace Go To Posthope is a dangerous thing
I gotta have hope. Manchin even seems open to the talking filibuster
By Fenderputty Go To PostShouldn’t …. “we’ve suffered a year just give us any fucking help Please” mentalities benefit Dems when Reps are voting no?"any help"? seriously lol
I gotta have hope. Manchin even seems open to the talking filibuster
please enjoy your shit sandwich is not some positive momentum builder
By DY_nasty Go To Post"any help"? seriously lol
please enjoy your shit sandwich is not some positive momentum builder
Again ... we disagree that the bill is a shit sandwich, but I don’t see how that doesn’t hurt republicans if the person being questioned does
Again ... not even looking for momentum building. Hoping it’s momentum killing for the GOp
If people think it’s not good enough and your voting no anyway because It’s too big and because Pelosi gets museum and art funding?
Did you read Lisa’s letter for why she voted no? It’s a fuckin joke
Like this is a wild admission
By Fenderputty Go To PostAgain … we disagree that the bill is a shit sandwich, but I don’t see how that doesn’t hurt republicans if the person being questioned does
Again … not even looking for momentum building. Hoping it’s momentum killing for the GOp
If people think it’s not good enough and your voting no anyway because It’s too big and because Pelosi gets museum and art funding?
Did you read Lisa’s letter for why she voted no? It’s a fuckin joke
Like this is a wild admission
People are asking why that needed to be addressed in this pandemic relief bill... if anything it strengthens their beliefs, just as opposition towards the bill strengthens yours. That's how the game is played...
By blackace Go To PostPeople are asking why that needed to be addressed in this pandemic relief bill… if anything it strengthens their beliefs, just as opposition towards the bill strengthens yours. That's how the game is played…
Sure there are people along that. Per pew, those people mostly exist in the middle and upper income brackets of their constituent base .
I mean shit dudes, if you can get 15% of the GOP base to get demotivated it’s enough for us to take 2022
if you're sitting here and acting like these positive remarks are indicative of some dramatic change to the general wholesale feeling of abandonment from the average us voter then you're comfortably out of touch.
dems can barely handle their own voters, politicians, and districts. pretending that they're in a position to win a rhetoric battle they've consistently shown an inability to grasp let alone overcome is absurd. and doing it with poorly framed information propped up on inherently faulty presentation? :/
dems can barely handle their own voters, politicians, and districts. pretending that they're in a position to win a rhetoric battle they've consistently shown an inability to grasp let alone overcome is absurd. and doing it with poorly framed information propped up on inherently faulty presentation? :/
By Fenderputty Go To PostSure there are people along that. Per pew, those people mostly exist in the middle and upper income brackets of their constituent base .I don't understand how that's working towards that...
I mean shit dudes, if you can get 15% of the GOP base to get demotivated it’s enough for us to take 2022
By blackace Go To PostI don't understand how that's working towards that…
Presumably voting no on an issue that’s polling positive in that demo. I’m not being definitive. I’m openly pondering if voting no on an issue their voters want will hurt them. That’s it.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostSo glad Clarkson decked this twat in the face.
By DY_nasty Go To Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/08/samuel-paty-how-a-teenagers-lie-sparked-a-tragic-chain-of-eventsSchool did that teacher dirty too it sounds like. Soon as they got wind of the kid trying to shirk attendance blame they should have been telling the parent off.
wow.
wow.
By blackace Go To Post
LMAO
By i can get you a toe Go To PostSchool did that teacher dirty too it sounds like. Soon as they got wind of the kid trying to shirk attendance blame they should have been telling the parent off.
100%. Fuck them too.
By blackace Go To PostIncredible how on the nose Family Guy were with their inside jokes. Still remember their joke on Kevin Spacey in 2005.
By DY_nasty Go To Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/08/samuel-paty-how-a-teenagers-lie-sparked-a-tragic-chain-of-eventsThis is fucked up
wow.
wow.
By Lunatic Go To PostIncredible how on the nose Family Guy were with their inside jokes. Still remember their joke on Kevin Spacey in 2005.
By Lunatic Go To PostIncredible how on the nose Family Guy were with their inside jokes. Still remember their joke on Kevin Spacey in 2005.It's almost as if Hollywood knew😮
By blackace Go To PostIt's almost as if Hollywood knew😮Haha yep everyone knew in the industry but as long as money is rolling in nobody wants to speak out because everyone in getting paid. It's so vile. Not much different from every industry to be fair this shit is particularly egregious.
So Japanese politics has been lit lately.
this has a realistic chance to become the Governor of Chiba.😂
this has a realistic chance to become the Governor of Chiba.😂
By a vote of 220-211, the House passed the measure and cleared it for Mr. Biden’s signatureClassic GOP
Messaging has sucked, and it’s lead to some short sighted convos, but even progressives are giving the bill props. It’s not, as lots of SLAENT would say, a shit sandwich. It’s actually quite good and represent HUGE sums of money to middle and lower class families
If I’m reading the deets right, a family of 4 making less than 160k a year gets an additional amount of money per child and then gets another benefit with the expansion of the tax credit.
So a family of 4 will get a $5600 direct check and then 6000-$7000 tax credit depending on the child’s age. Which may come monthly as detailed later
So a 600$ monthly check to all parents in the US with two kids? Nice.
Everyone can get subsidies now as there’s no more income cap and Max yearly out of pocket is set at 8.5% of income. Biden just rammed through the biggest ACA overhaul since its inception.
Rent and daycare bailouts too.
Bring on the talking filibuster and build back better jobs / green bill now!
If I’m reading the deets right, a family of 4 making less than 160k a year gets an additional amount of money per child and then gets another benefit with the expansion of the tax credit.
So a family of 4 will get a $5600 direct check and then 6000-$7000 tax credit depending on the child’s age. Which may come monthly as detailed later
but they’re also adding in some of their own things, including a huge expansion of the child tax credit, which sounds boring, but they are trying to make it so that the IRS will pay parents this money in advance; it would be a child benefit, worth hundreds of dollars per child, for practically everyone in the United States who has children.
So a 600$ monthly check to all parents in the US with two kids? Nice.
Another thing that’s gone under the radar in this bill, and this could be for either of you, is the Obamacare subsidies. It might sound you know, technocratic, but let me try to explain it in a way that makes it quite simple: This legislation would say that nobody in the country should have to spend more than 8.5 percent of their income on health care. That’s my understanding of what the legislation is trying to do.
If you were going to do a Medicare, single-payer type of legislation that you know, the simplest way, and the way that is most often proposed to pay for it, is just a simple payroll tax, something in the range of 8.5 percent. There are lots of other ways you could fund it, but that’s that’s one that’s thrown out. In that case, you’re paying a tax and you’re getting back universal coverage.
In this case, you have a convoluted system of payments, some people are on public, some people are on private, some people have regulated Obamacare exchange plans, some people are employer covered. But nobody is supposed to have to pay more than 8.5 percent of their income toward health care, which genuinely could qualify as affordable coverage. So that that has gotten very little attention as Republicans instead have been freaking out about Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato Head. You’re seeing this pretty substantial change to Obamacare.
Everyone can get subsidies now as there’s no more income cap and Max yearly out of pocket is set at 8.5% of income. Biden just rammed through the biggest ACA overhaul since its inception.
Yeah, I think two big pots of money are about $40 billion each for rental and homeowners’ assistance, and $40 billion for a childcare bailout. We know that childcare and daycare centers have been largely left out of the kind of school and education aid conversations in previous packages, and a lot of women going back to work depends on having dependent childcare. And so I think those two buckets, with one in five renters behind on rent and with a lot of women dropping out of the labor force for child care concerns, getting kids back in schools, but also back in daycares, and pre-Ks, and all of those things, those are both going to be really important, as we kind of “build back better,” as the President puts it.
Rent and daycare bailouts too.
Bring on the talking filibuster and build back better jobs / green bill now!
By DY_nasty Go To Postpropagandaputty
I was hoping for something less lazy, but I don’t know why
Pelosi endorsed Cuellar and personally went to his district to campaign for him to make sure a young progressive woman didn't win.
The week after she said this
That house D need a primary stat. How do you end up being the only D to vote no o a bill 70% of the country wants?
you keep parroting this "bill that everyone wants" thing as if people care what color or shape their life preserver comes in as they're drowning
Punished Meghan, a princess denied her throne.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/10/society-of-editors-chief-quits-after-row-over-meghan-racism-statement?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/10/society-of-editors-chief-quits-after-row-over-meghan-racism-statement?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
By Perfect Blue Go To PostFender got pundit brain at times but he's a good dude, let him chill
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You know how many centrist, left of center and semi progressive pundit takes I could have posted regarding the bill? I posted Ryan fucking Grimm discussing the meat of the bill and still got called a parroting propagandist from a dude who has a Dems ain’t shit hair trigger
“People will get more under trump than Obama” ain’t even a true statement for families. Families will get more here. A lot more. Even the ones making more than 160k will seemingly start getting monthly child credits to the tune of 300-600 a month depending on how many kids they have. Families under 160k will get 11k of direct stimulus from this bill ... I mean brown tinted shitsaver
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou keep parroting this "bill that everyone wants" thing as if people care what color or shape their life preserver comes in as they're drowningHe hasn't really, but keep projecting. After seeing endless takes equivalent to 'lolol how is $1400 going to lift anybody out of poverty', it's nice to see someone try to acknowledge other parts of the bill.
Here’s another cool part of the shitsaver. Don’t have a kid yet but have a kid due this year and you’ll still qualify for the 1400 direct check on your 2022 returns.
By trevorariza Go To PostHe hasn't really, but keep projecting. After seeing endless takes equivalent to 'lolol how is $1400 going to lift anybody out of poverty', it's nice to see someone try to acknowledge other parts of the bill.no. yal are really dismissive of how low the bar has become when it comes to relief
This coming from the dude that doubted any relief would happen under Biden while also currently acting like his bar is so high 2T is trash
Lol 1400 checks tho am I right
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Lol 1400 checks tho am I right
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my lack of enthusiasm for low effort, watered down efforts isn't really new and is kinda my thing across the board tho
By Fenderputty Go To PostThe only thing that’s been low effort has been your classification of a good bill.low effort is gobbling up every "we can't because one guy" excuse without a second thought lol
By Fenderputty Go To PostThat house D need a primary stat. How do you end up being the only D to vote no o a bill 70% of the country wants?We'll see if Dem leadership tries to tank the challenger again
By cashman Go To PostWe'll see if Dem leadership tries to tank the challenger again
Can’t imagine leadership is happy with that vote, but I also can imagine that not mattering 😕
Dudes trying to be all pro union too.
