By Scum Go To PostBring me Maddison.
Travel back five years and hold a gun to the chairman's head until he does the deal
By rossonero Go To PostWasn't Vardy offside when the goalkeeper started the play?Was it from a goal kick? I can't remember. There's no offsides from goal kicks
By Bungie Go To PostTravel back five years and hold a gun to the chairman's head until he does the deal
Neverkusen
Season done Penny?
no real way back from loosing to Bosz ball, just can not start playing football after 45 min, 2nd 1/2 was better from your guys.
Season done Penny?
no real way back from loosing to Bosz ball, just can not start playing football after 45 min, 2nd 1/2 was better from your guys.
By Bungie Go To PostWhy does Fofana shave a broken heart into the back of his head?Bcos he is heartbroken?
By markao Go To PostNeverkusenLeague for sure, but it's still important to get that CL spot.
Season done Penny?
no real way back from loosing to Bosz ball, just can not start playing football after 45 min, 2nd 1/2 was better from your guys.
Just not good enough. Too many players not performing and while we're playing a bit better, firing Favre obviously didn't solve all those problems we've had with no real break in between.
By FootbalIFan Go To PostWas it from a goal kick? I can't remember. There's no offsides from goal kicksOh duh, that’s right.
By Bungie Go To PostPenny you said Havertz was going to make itNever trust bundeslolga "talents" m8
By Bungie Go To PostPenny you said Havertz was going to make itGive him some time.
By FootbalIFan Go To PostNever trust bundeslolga "talents" m8
It's the German players that never seem to make it
By Bungie Go To PostIt's the German players that never seem to make itMarin, Schurrle, Kagawa, Sahin, Mkhitaryan, Werner, Havertz is who I can think of atm. Probably forgot a few
Also wtf
Şahin was born to Turkish parents in Lüdenscheid and grew up in nearby Meinerzhagen.[4] He has been married to his cousin Tuğba Şahin (née Emeni) since November 2007
Fucking hell, my voice is gone.
Boring game, Porto scores one of the crappiest goals you'll ever see on the 79th minute.
I thought we were done but Jovane Cabral scored a worldie to make it 1-1 on the 86th minute and a quicker counter on the 92nd to make it 2-1 and take us to the final.
Boring game, Porto scores one of the crappiest goals you'll ever see on the 79th minute.
I thought we were done but Jovane Cabral scored a worldie to make it 1-1 on the 86th minute and a quicker counter on the 92nd to make it 2-1 and take us to the final.
By FootbalIFan Go To PostAlso wtfRespect facism's culture
Şahin was born to Turkish parents in Lüdenscheid and grew up in nearby Meinerzhagen.[4] He has been married to his cousin Tuğba Şahin (née Emeni) since November 2007
By Bungie Go To PostIt's the German players that never seem to make itI've got more problems with finding german players that didn't really make it.
Mustafi for sure, but I kinda expected it.
Martin Tyler has been asleep on every goal, even that from Werner, he seemed like he couldn't muster the breath
By Doicare Go To PostDon't worry Chelsea are going to sign Sancho and Haaland so they'll be fine.i think just one of them. the other can go to liverpoo
By FootbalIFan Go To PostMarin, Schurrle, Kagawa, Sahin, Mkhitaryan, Werner, Havertz is who I can think of atm. Probably forgot a few
Yeah but De Bruyne, Son, Berbatov, Kompany.
The only German player who did it was Klinsmann and that was only for one year so it barely counts. Then you're looking at someone like Hamann who was decent but not amazing
Congrats the boy Martins
Leicester with 39 points after half the season played. Real chance for them to get top 4 this season; nice to see them established up the top there.
Leicester with 39 points after half the season played. Real chance for them to get top 4 this season; nice to see them established up the top there.
Frank Lampard with another sensational result against a top team.
L Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool
D Tottenham 1-1 Chelsea
D Chelsea 0-0 Sevilla
D Man United 0-0 Chelsea
D Chelsea 0-0 Tottenham
W Sevilla 0-4 Chelsea
L Wolves 2-1 Chelsea
L Arsenal 3-1 Chelsea
L Chelsea 1-3 Man City
L Leicester 2-0 Chelsea
L - 5
D - 4
W - 1
That's 0.7 points, 0.8 goals for & 1.3 goals against on average per game this season.
And that's worse than last season where Chelsea shat the bed in most of their big games as well.
L Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool
D Tottenham 1-1 Chelsea
D Chelsea 0-0 Sevilla
D Man United 0-0 Chelsea
D Chelsea 0-0 Tottenham
W Sevilla 0-4 Chelsea
L Wolves 2-1 Chelsea
L Arsenal 3-1 Chelsea
L Chelsea 1-3 Man City
L Leicester 2-0 Chelsea
L - 5
D - 4
W - 1
That's 0.7 points, 0.8 goals for & 1.3 goals against on average per game this season.
And that's worse than last season where Chelsea shat the bed in most of their big games as well.
By Bungie Go To PostYeah but De Bruyne, Son, Berbatov, Kompany.True true true
The only German player who did it was Klinsmann and that was only for one year so it barely counts. Then you're looking at someone like Hamann who was decent but not amazing
By Bungie Go To PostYeah but De Bruyne, Son, Berbatov, Kompany.Ballack? Gündogan?
The only German player who did it was Klinsmann and that was only for one year so it barely counts. Then you're looking at someone like Hamann who was decent but not amazing
Özil was also good for quite a while.
Plenty of players who did well for a club that didn't really had a high position at the time like Huth etc.
Some players I've got no idea how they're viewed like Lehmann, considering he botched that CL finale.
No idea about players in the 90s like Freund, Klinsmann, Hamann etc. Couldn't really follow them back in the day.
By Pennywise Go To PostI've got more problems with finding german players that didn't really make it.
Mustafi for sure, but I kinda expected it.
Well none of them really stand out do they?
Ballack was average. Sane was alright but it didn't exactly end well. Mertesacker was average. Lehmann average. Huth average. Ozil... Boateng average. Ziege flop. Chan average. Holtby average. Karius LOL. Meyer flop. Rudiger average. Schurrle average. Podolski average.
edit: Gundogan is probably the best one to be honest. I forgot him
By Bungie Go To Post"It's not good enough for this football club"Watching lampard now. Basically said this haha
By Bungie Go To PostWell none of them really stand out do they?Boateng was a pretty big flop as far as I remember.
Ballack was average. Sane was alright but it didn't exactly end well. Mertesacker was average. Lehmann average. Huth average. Ozil… Boateng average. Ziege flop. Chan average. Holtby average. Karius LOL. Meyer flop. Rudiger average. Schurrle average. Podolski average.
edit: Gundogan is probably the best one to be honest. I forgot him
But it's all about expectation and what you paid for those players.
Gündogan and Sane definitely stand out.
Meyer was something everybody expected. Same for Holtby. Can't believe Hamburg took him and Van der Vaart back.
In the end can you name alot of German players that really deserve the term world class during the last 20 years? There aren't alot.
There haven't been alot that have come close, but that doesn't mean that your view of average = flop/didn't make it.
As far as Havertz goes, he needs time and the right position. Doesn't help that Chelsea already got the perfect player who is in great form with Mount. Given his age, the new league and corona, people should stop being so reactionary though, especially when the entire team is playing dog shit.