By LabouredPatriot Go To Post
nice!
By inky Go To PostIs the game still reliant on single core performance? Yes?
meh
Not AFAIK for the remaster. They used the old console version of CryEngine 3 as the base so that it was tooled for multi-core rather than the original PC game code.
Looks like Smokey has taken to DDOS-ing the LBP servers. Are there no depths he will not plumb to attack Lord Sony?
The work on PC never ends comrade Bold. There are always gains to be had.
What you see as an inconvenience is our raison d'etre.
What you see as an inconvenience is our raison d'etre.
By LabouredPatriot Go To PostNot AFAIK for the remaster. They used the old console version of CryEngine 3 as the base so that it was tooled for multi-core rather than the original PC game code.I know they use the console version (another reason this remaster sucks balls), but from the benchmarks it was still heavily single core dependent.
RDR2 is that gift that keeps on giving. Even though I spent like 40 hours with it in my first play through, I’m finding new characters, new moments. The more time I spend the better it looks too, fully immersing myself in its beautiful vistas and tip top acting.
What a shame that Rockstar can only put one of these per generation.
What a shame that Rockstar can only put one of these per generation.
3 months in to having an Xbox, I think it's fine to say the interface on this thing is ass. The PS5 isn't much better.
How have both of these companies gotten so bad at console UIs?
How have both of these companies gotten so bad at console UIs?
By JesalR Go To Post3 months in to having an Xbox, I think it's fine to say the interface on this thing is ass. The PS5 isn't much better.
How have both of these companies gotten so bad at console UIs?
i don't really understand the difficulty complaints with xbox. you can literally pin anything you want to your home screen. start the system, go over the tile, press A? you can create groups on the home screen to organize your items however you want. pressing the guide button gives you access to everything you need and it's spelled out. my games & apps, settings, gamepass, friends list, store, etc. idk m9
the ps5 is definitely a step back from the ps4. not sure how or why that happened. not being able to control or group the games that appear on the game bar is mad annoying, especially if you play a mix of ps4 and ps5 titles.
By Smokey Go To Posti don't really understand the difficulty complaints with xbox. you can literally pin anything you want to your home screen. start the system, go over the tile, press A? you can create groups on the home screen to organize your items however you want. pressing the guide button gives you access to everything you need and it's spelled out. my games & apps, settings, gamepass, friends list, store, etc. idk m9Being able to pin anything anywhere is not a stand in for good UI design.
the ps5 is definitely a step back from the ps4. not sure how or why that happened. not being able to control or group the games that appear on the game bar is mad annoying, especially if you play a mix of ps4 and ps5 titles.
It's nested, convoluted, and does not teach you enough about how to use it. Maybe having spent as many years with it as you have means you know the way around it, but intuitive it is not.
By JesalR Go To PostBeing able to pin anything anywhere is not a stand in for good UI design.
It's nested, convoluted, and does not teach you enough about how to use it. Maybe having spent as many years with it as you have means you know the way around it, but intuitive it is not.
but...pressing the guide button literally gives you access to everything as i said. if you don't want to press a single button to access that stuff for whatever reason, then just pin your most used items to the dash, and never use the guide button at all. start up the system and it's right there in your face. that's a perfectly fine solution to get to the items you want, with the least amount of button presses.
sounds like complaining just to complain tbh
By Smokey Go To Postbut…pressing the guide button literally gives you access to everything as i said. if you don't want to press a single button to access that stuff for whatever reason, then just pin your most used items to the dash, and never use the guide button at all. that's a perfectly fine solution to get to your items you want, with the least amount of presses.Or it sounds like I think the company made a poor UI? Even with the guide, there's inherent knowledge in play, what lives where, what's nested under what options? I think it's organisationally poor, don't get sad about it?
sounds like complaining just to complain tbh
By JesalR Go To PostOr it sounds like I think the company made a poor UI? Even with the guide, there's inherent knowledge in play, what lives where, what's nested under what options? I think it's organisationally poor, don't get sad about it?
i'm not sad about it, don't get defensive m7. i just gave you an easy solution. if you don't want to do that and simply make it harder than it needs to be, well that's on you. i'm assuming you can read, and can navigate icons. how difficult is it to press the guide button, move the stick over to a category to go into it? what lives where? obviously gamepass titles are under gamepass, my games and apps is...my games and apps. the store is the store. it's really not that difficult.
i do think both systems should offer different "skins" for people that don't like the default UI, but that's probably easier said than done.
By Smokey Go To Posti'm not sad about it, don't get defensive m7. i just gave you an easy solution. if you don't want to do that and simply make it harder than it needs to be, well that's on you. i'm assuming you can read. how difficult is it to press the guide button, move the stick over to a category to go into it? what lives where? obviously gamepass titles are under gamepass, my games and apps is…my games and apps. the store is the store. it's really not that difficult.I suppose my point is that I wasn't looking for a solution, I was saying the I don't think the UI is good. I can get to most things in the Xbox UI, I can Google if I need to, but being able to do something in a UI doesn't make it an inherently good UI.
i do think both systems should offer different "skins" for people that don't like the default UI, but that's probably easier said than done.
i was avoiding loop hero because it's so ugly.............. but it's actually kinda good
By JesalR Go To PostOr it sounds like I think the company made a poor UI? Even with the guide, there's inherent knowledge in play, what lives where, what's nested under what options? I think it's organisationally poor, don't get sad about it?you can say the same about apple's UIs too, which most would consider good. any complex ui has a learning curve, it doesn't make it bad.
Bowser’s Fury is really good. A lot of neat new concepts for Mario that I wish Odyssey would have been like instead. Hopefully it’s not too short.
By Daz Go To PostPC brehs still optimising a 12 year old game.this killed me lmao
Utter Shambles.
By JesalR Go To PostI suppose my point is that I wasn't looking for a solution, I was saying the I don't think the UI is good. I can get to most things in the Xbox UI, I can Google if I need to, but being able to do something in a UI doesn't make it an inherently good UI.
i guess i'm hung up on what you're trying to do on the system that gives you so much trouble or would require a google lookup? a button press to get to what you need or pinning it to your dash to be in your face on startup, is about as simple as it can get given the sheer amount stuff that is included with these systems.
By rerixo Go To Posti was avoiding loop hero because it's so ugly………….. but it's actually kinda goodI'd disagree here. I see a huge amount of people in the UI space raise issues with Apple's UI, especially on iPadOS, where too much functionality is buried in ways that aren't easy to access. At the same time, I'd say they do a lot of teaching on iOS proper, sometimes too much maybe
you can say the same about apple's UIs too, which most would consider good. any complex ui has a learning curve, it doesn't make it bad.
What's good UI/UX? I've always wondered what people believe is because I don't think I've ever looked at a gadget or launcher, console, etc. and thought "yeah, this is it!". You just kinda get used to each thing.
Like Windows for example, I remember reading a lot during the W8 era about how everything everyone did was through the search bar, so why did you need a desktop experience anymore, and thinking... I've never used the fucking search bar. I still don't. It's useless in W10.
Like Windows for example, I remember reading a lot during the W8 era about how everything everyone did was through the search bar, so why did you need a desktop experience anymore, and thinking... I've never used the fucking search bar. I still don't. It's useless in W10.
By Smokey Go To Posti guess i'm hung up on what you're trying to do on the system that gives you so much trouble or would require a google lookup? a button press to get to what you need or pinning it to your dash to be in your face on startup, is about as simple as it can get given the sheer amount stuff that is included with these systems.A couple of small things recently: How do I know if starting a game will evict a game I was playing from Quick Start? What will I lose state in by opening the thing I'm about to click on? What's even in my quick start state at the moment?
The other day I managed to pull up an achievement tracker over the screen by accident, not really sure how, but there was no obvious may for me to remove it either.
The system UI isn't in HDR so causes the screen to transition modes when you flip between things at times.
As long as it isn't tile design. But man, Ps5 is weird how they just decided to make it worse than ps4 for no apparent reason.
Not sure how anyone can use windows and not use the toolbar search. Do you scroll through all your installed shit to find what you need, instead of pressing like one or two letters for it to appear?
Not sure how anyone can use windows and not use the toolbar search. Do you scroll through all your installed shit to find what you need, instead of pressing like one or two letters for it to appear?
By LabouredPatriot Go To PostThe KFC x Genshin Impact promotion in China has gotten out of hand.Maybe there's too much freedom in China 🤔
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostAs long as it isn't tile design.I know where everything is. It's not that hard.
Not sure how anyone can use windows and not use the toolbar search. Do you scroll through all your installed shit to find what you need, instead of pressing like one or two letters for it to appear?
Search bar is fine to find "apps" (It saves you like 2 seconds), but I work more with documents and tables, individual files, etc, and it's fucking useless at finding them even though it apparently spends a good chunk of time indexing shit.
By JesalR Go To PostA couple of small things recently: How do I know if starting a game will evict a game I was playing from Quick Start? What will I lose state in by opening the thing I'm about to click on? What's even in my quick start state at the moment?
The other day I managed to pull up an achievement tracker over the screen by accident, not really sure how, but there was no obvious may for me to remove it either.
The system UI isn't in HDR so causes the screen to transition modes when you flip between things at times.
A lot of that is more OS than the UI.
Not being in HDR like PS5, i think is a better solution. Everything on PS5 gets put into a container if the game doesn't natively support HDR and it can look off (see -- Control).
The UI not being in 4K in 2021 is the much bigger offense.
Yeah I don't use it for individual files either. But opening up programs certainly save me a lot of time. There's a bunch of shit I disable when installing windows, but the search bar is one of the great new additions for me.
Anyway a new ui is often something you have to get used to. But after enough time spent with one, you also start to notice its faults. From software and cdpr are the horror scenarios, where it gets actively worse
Anyway a new ui is often something you have to get used to. But after enough time spent with one, you also start to notice its faults. From software and cdpr are the horror scenarios, where it gets actively worse
By Smokey Go To PostA lot of that is more OS than the UI.See, to me that's UI, it's how I interact with the OS.
Not being in HDR like PS5, i think is a better solution. Everything on PS5 gets put into a container if the game doesn't natively support HDR and it can look off (see – Control).
The UI not being in 4K in 2021 is the much bigger offense.
I don't think they should go down the PS5 solution of making every game HDR (though they give you the option) because I agree that it's not great for the games, but I don't understand why the UI itself can't be HDR when I'm in an HDR compatible game, or bouncing between games. TVs need to solve the transition issue, but the Xbox makes it happen a few too many times.
I'm honestly not fussed about the UI being 1080p, to be honest, a lot of perfectly straight lines so it doesn't look _too_ terrible when upscaled
By JesalR Go To PostSee, to me that's UI, it's how I interact with the OS.
I don't think they should go down the PS5 solution of making every game HDR (though they give you the option) because I agree that it's not great for the games, but I don't understand why the UI itself can't be HDR when I'm in an HDR compatible game, or bouncing between games. TVs need to solve the transition issue, but the Xbox makes it happen a few too many times.
I'm honestly not fussed about the UI being 1080p, to be honest, a lot of perfectly straight lines so it doesn't look _too_ terrible when upscaled
Well the Quick Start function, which I'm assuming you were talking about Quick Resume, if a game exits out of that state for whatever reason after you've done something on the system, most likely something at the OS level caused it to be kicked out. They could, however, tell you how many games and which games you have in the Quick Resume state. I'm sure that'll be coming in a future update.
Yeah it doesn't look that bad tbh, but I still think the dash should've been in 4k especially since the XSX is marketed as a premium console. If it was the S, I could understand.
By Smokey Go To PostWell the Quick Start function, which I'm assuming you were talking about Quick Resume, if a game exits out of that state for whatever reason after you've done something on the system, most likely something at the OS level caused it to be kicked out. They could, however, tell you how many games and which games you have in the Quick Resume state. I'm sure that'll be coming in a future update.Yeah, meant Quick Resume. It's an OS level thing that it needs to evict a game, but it's a UI problem that it doesn't tell you when something you do will cause that I guess.
Yeah it doesn't look that bad tbh, but I still think the dash should've been in 4k especially since the XSX is marketed as a premium console. If it was the S, I could understand.
IIRC, wasn't the UI res kept at 1080 because of the resource split they wanted for games vs OS?
By JesalR Go To PostYeah, meant Quick Resume. It's an OS level thing that it needs to evict a game, but it's a UI problem that it doesn't tell you when something you do will cause that I guess.
IIRC, wasn't the UI res kept at 1080 because of the resource split they wanted for games vs OS?
Yeah that was the reason they gave for the decision.
Xbox and ps5 UIs both sux ass
Have and will always prefer the ugly/dumb style of ps3(cross media bar). Where you just have users, settings, music, videos, pictures, tv, games, ps store, friends list as separate sections on the same screen that you easily scroll across.
Feel like you could give that to any idiot and theyd find what you tell them to.
With ps5 even me as a pro gamer struggle to find things like the capture gallery, friends list, messages, party, and basically everything else too
Have and will always prefer the ugly/dumb style of ps3(cross media bar). Where you just have users, settings, music, videos, pictures, tv, games, ps store, friends list as separate sections on the same screen that you easily scroll across.
Feel like you could give that to any idiot and theyd find what you tell them to.
With ps5 even me as a pro gamer struggle to find things like the capture gallery, friends list, messages, party, and basically everything else too
By Kibner Go To PostSeriously, the PS3 had the best ui for these full featured consoles.It was also a multimedia beast. It could play whatever kind of video or music file you throw at it.
PS4 was so dissapointing in this regard.
By Daz Go To PostIt was also a multimedia beast. It could play whatever kind of video or music file you throw at it.
PS4 was so dissapointing in this regard.
The PS3 overall was an elegant box. From the way the system looked, SD card support, to supporting BC and Blu-ray. Felt premium af.
Talk of the PS3’s UI just reminds me of how slow it got towards the end of it’s gen. The Store especially, but also if you had a lot of game downloaded to the HDD then it felt like it could take minutes just to load the icons for them.
By LabouredPatriot Go To PostIt looked like absolute shit.
compared to the 360 it definitely looked like a high end piece of AV equipment.
Easy to forget how barebones that thing was at launch compared to the 360. No in game XMB for years was rough compared to how much the 360 could do
By JesalR Go To PostEasy to forget how barebones that thing was at launch compared to the 360. No in game XMB for years was rough compared to how much the 360 could doYep I remember having to quit game to check messages
By Daz Go To PostIt was also a multimedia beast. It could play whatever kind of video or music file you throw at it.
PS4 was so dissapointing in this regard.
That OG fat PS3 with the SS card slots was the shit