By Daz Go To PostWhich PES had Henry on the cover?Henry was in the cover of 4 with Totti and 5 with John Terry, Pierluigi Collina was in 3.
And which one had to be that bald ref on the cover?
By Bungie Go To PostPES 5 I think it was had an exploit where you did the layoff free kick from far enough out and the keeper would rush out the moment you did the layoff and you could put it over his head if you got the shot rightFinished all of them and unlocked level 20 mastery on each.
What level you up to?
By Bungie Go To PostPES 5 I think it was had an exploit where you did the layoff free kick from far enough out and the keeper would rush out the moment you did the layoff and you could put it over his head if you got the shot rightTrue, but I saw advanced players, namely a mate who’d play in national and international tournaments and was crazy good at that era of PES, who’d be quick to anticipate that, take manual control of the keeper and move him back, effectively blocking that exploit. Nuts.
By Pedja Go To PostFinished all of them and unlocked level 20 mastery on each.
Nice
Last one only has 5 mastery levels I think. Rubbish mission though
By DY_nasty Go To Postwasn't a fan of it tbh
even back when every rpg was awesome to me
By blackace Go To PostSaga Frontier will probably benefit a lot from a remake. But not sure that it will help it.Aight, thanks for the wallet saving.
think the last time i enjoyed a fifa game was the world cup 2014 one which had a captain your country mode up to 4 people locally could do a campaign
I still play local FIFA every week with friends. Regardless of how shit FIFA is, nothing is better than local with your bredrins.
By Lunatic Go To PostI still play local FIFA every week with friends. Regardless of how shit FIFA is, nothing is better than local with your bredrins.This is true
I tried Gamepass for 1 Biden
In 3 months I played 2 games. Ori and FH4 (around 20 hours of Ori and 5 of Forza)
Definitely not for me. Gargantuan pass
In 3 months I played 2 games. Ori and FH4 (around 20 hours of Ori and 5 of Forza)
Definitely not for me. Gargantuan pass
By Freewheelin Go To PostI enjoyed Euro 08 on PS3 I think. PES was obv the king on PS2 thoIt really did rule the PS2 roost.
WTF happened?
By Daz Go To PostIt really did rule the PS2 roost.That first ps3 one was so, so bad
WTF happened?
Felt like playing in slow motion until you hammered the ball
By Daz Go To PostIt really did rule the PS2 roost.I wanna say it went multiplatform, but upon checking it kinda always was multiplatform.
WTF happened?
Back in the day, I thought it was PlayStation exclusive until PES5 or 6.
PS2 was so ubiquitous in the UK then that a lot of games felt like that I think
Especially weird with pes when the 360 got the best version of the best entry afaik
Especially weird with pes when the 360 got the best version of the best entry afaik
Winning Eleven was always the superior name. PES has the word "Soccer" in it. That's an auto downgrade.
By EldritchTrapStar Go To PostOh. I might finally play Prey, now.pretty cool game
Doom 64 is on Gamepass too? Nice.
there's a roguelike mode that I heard is good too
For Pro Evo the transition to HD was a complete mess.
The first entries on the PS3 were so so bad.
The series barely improved in the early HD years, 2010 was okay and until 2015 the PES devs still did not know how they wanted to present football. So many issues they never bothered to sort out from game to game that it felt like Konami must have starved them of any sort of major funding.
The 2016 edition of Pro Evo was the first one that was good and they improved gameplay in 2017 as well.
Currently it's at its peak with the 2020/2021 editions of PES.
As such, PES 2020/21 is the greatest representation of football in video game form on the market. Passing feels amazing, the amount of tactical options you can set up and activate on the fly are also welcome. Issues persist with menus, commentary, presentation, online and even ML but on the pitch it is so far ahead of FIFA that it's such a shame that its sales are so low.
FIFA on PS2 was actually quite an acomplished game with FIFA 06 (earlier editions were vile) and when they went HD with FIFA 08 it felt like a leap in terms of graphics but honestly the gameplay initially was not so great either. FIFA 09 and FIFA 11 were good entries yet had major exploits that became a huge problem, especially online. Incremental improvements year to year with focus on "fixing" issues by alternating what is OP in any particular title was such a cop out in terms of driving gameplay related improvements.
"Speed is OP in this game" to the next edition "Strength is OP in this game" and it would keep alternating from title to title. They never found the right balance. Or general improvements to defensive logic in one game to improvements to offensive logic the next. Slap a nice marketing term on like "Attack Vision 2.4" and the masses eat it up.
Licensing, online and presentation are FIFAs only strength.
They have the market locked down and in turn can keep pumping out low effort titles with a gambling hook with no real effects on their bottom lines. Streamer culture mixed with Ultimate Team has only further popularized it in regions that barely even cared about football, it is all about that new shiny card now with influencers spreading the good word on every social media platform.
Pro Evolution has introduced their own UT due to the success of Ultimate Team on FIFA, which I guess makes sense if you can hook a few whales here and there, but it still sucks. Konami gotta Konami I guess.
Gameplay on FIFA is stunningly bad. Passing feels absolute shite, shooting and general build up is mind numbingly boring. It looks real, it sounds real but plays absolutely terribly. Wonder where Konami take their series next though, especially with their Unreal Engine switch over. Hope the longer dev time results in something better than the last time they jumped to the HD era.
The first entries on the PS3 were so so bad.
The series barely improved in the early HD years, 2010 was okay and until 2015 the PES devs still did not know how they wanted to present football. So many issues they never bothered to sort out from game to game that it felt like Konami must have starved them of any sort of major funding.
The 2016 edition of Pro Evo was the first one that was good and they improved gameplay in 2017 as well.
Currently it's at its peak with the 2020/2021 editions of PES.
As such, PES 2020/21 is the greatest representation of football in video game form on the market. Passing feels amazing, the amount of tactical options you can set up and activate on the fly are also welcome. Issues persist with menus, commentary, presentation, online and even ML but on the pitch it is so far ahead of FIFA that it's such a shame that its sales are so low.
FIFA on PS2 was actually quite an acomplished game with FIFA 06 (earlier editions were vile) and when they went HD with FIFA 08 it felt like a leap in terms of graphics but honestly the gameplay initially was not so great either. FIFA 09 and FIFA 11 were good entries yet had major exploits that became a huge problem, especially online. Incremental improvements year to year with focus on "fixing" issues by alternating what is OP in any particular title was such a cop out in terms of driving gameplay related improvements.
"Speed is OP in this game" to the next edition "Strength is OP in this game" and it would keep alternating from title to title. They never found the right balance. Or general improvements to defensive logic in one game to improvements to offensive logic the next. Slap a nice marketing term on like "Attack Vision 2.4" and the masses eat it up.
Licensing, online and presentation are FIFAs only strength.
They have the market locked down and in turn can keep pumping out low effort titles with a gambling hook with no real effects on their bottom lines. Streamer culture mixed with Ultimate Team has only further popularized it in regions that barely even cared about football, it is all about that new shiny card now with influencers spreading the good word on every social media platform.
Pro Evolution has introduced their own UT due to the success of Ultimate Team on FIFA, which I guess makes sense if you can hook a few whales here and there, but it still sucks. Konami gotta Konami I guess.
Gameplay on FIFA is stunningly bad. Passing feels absolute shite, shooting and general build up is mind numbingly boring. It looks real, it sounds real but plays absolutely terribly. Wonder where Konami take their series next though, especially with their Unreal Engine switch over. Hope the longer dev time results in something better than the last time they jumped to the HD era.
I think It's a Japanese thing. A lot of franchises over there took quite a while till they transitioned away from the old tech. Look at Yakuza. Up until Yakuza 0 it was basically the same PS2 game with a new sugarcoat of paint on top of it. And the same goes for PES. Up until 2013 were I dropped it, and by dropping I mean not even checking out the demos anymore, it felt like the PS2 game with a new coat of paint on top.
By Zabojnik Go To PostHow dare you not include me in the weeb brigade.waait you played it? I just assumed you're a full time Apex goblin now
I think I'm close to finishing Hollow Knight btw.
By DY_nasty Go To Postyakisoba angels are realIndeed.
By Yurtlicious Go To Postwaait you played it? I just assumed you're a full time Apex goblin nowI don't think he played it yet, since he's focused on that new survival game. He got it though and waited until he had his PS5.
I think I'm close to finishing Hollow Knight btw.
Zabo will join the group of gentlemens soon.
By Yurtlicious Go To Postdynasty, Blue, Penny..there's hope in this world :3Great!
I pushed like 3 people to buy it, everyone was sceptical first and loved it in the end.
I really hope that Vanillaware will get another shot at a story heavy game like that.
Yeah, I bought it, haven't played it yet. Too deep into Valheim with the lads at the moment, even Apex has taken the back sit in the past week.
Speaking of Valheim, we're about to start building our second (and final), properly constructed base of operations. I know that after Minecraft & co. I shouldn't be surprised by what come up with ... but fucking hell. The amount of planning, material gathering and building it took for these ...
Speaking of Valheim, we're about to start building our second (and final), properly constructed base of operations. I know that after Minecraft & co. I shouldn't be surprised by what come up with ... but fucking hell. The amount of planning, material gathering and building it took for these ...
By Vini.lad Go To PostI tried Gamepass for 1 BidenI've had a similar experience TBH. I've got a 3 year sub, and anticipate a fair number of games I do want to play getting on there are some point, but outside of Ori, nothing has really captured me.
In 3 months I played 2 games. Ori and FH4 (around 20 hours of Ori and 5 of Forza)
Definitely not for me. Gargantuan pass
same. I did try many games that I'd never spend money on so that's good
and you can't sit at this table till you play it.
By Zabojnik Go To PostYeah, I bought it, haven't played it yet. Too deep into Valheim with the lads at the moment, even Apex has taken the back sit in the past week.damn, I'm quite surprised they can pull off Minecraft shit.
Speaking of Valheim, we're about to start building our second (and final), properly constructed base of operations. I know that after Minecraft & co. I shouldn't be surprised by what come up with … but fucking hell. The amount of planning, material gathering and building it took for these …
and you can't sit at this table till you play it.
I’ve played Doom Eternal, CK3, MCC, Gears 5, Horizon 4. There’s a bunch of others like Sea of Thieves and Grounded that I played less. Just started We Happy Few, and need to get to the Super Hot and Ori sequels, Wolfenstein Youngblood, The Touryst, The Outer Worlds, Shadow Warrior 2, Desperados 3, Spiritfarer, Two Point Hospital
Spiritfarer is one I want to try post GiantBomb GOTY discussions, but it's something my partner has mentioned she'd be interested in, so waiting for her to jump in to it.
Horizon 4 is fun here and there, but I realised I don't like driving to races, much prefer menu based race selection
Horizon 4 is fun here and there, but I realised I don't like driving to races, much prefer menu based race selection
By JesalR Go To PostSpiritfarer is one I want to try post GiantBomb GOTY discussions, but it's something my partner has mentioned she'd be interested in, so waiting for her to jump in to it.You can teleport to the races using the map.
Horizon 4 is fun here and there, but I realised I don't like driving to races, much prefer menu based race selection
E: not that that's the best solution either
By Kibner Go To PostYou can teleport to the races using the map.Oh, really? Must have missed the prompt. Honestly, that's most of the way to solving the issue for me. I still prefer slightly more linear race menus, but that's never what the Horizon games were going for I'd guess
E: not that that's the best solution either
One thing I really missed on Forza was a proper class division of cars. Balance didn't look good either. Online felt like a huge mess too.
I forgot there is Hellblade as well I want to play
Did you try Forza 7? That might have been more your thing.
By Vini.lad Go To PostOne thing I really missed on Forza was a proper class division of cars. Balance didn't look good either. Online felt like a huge mess too.
Did you try Forza 7? That might have been more your thing.
By Bungie Go To PostDid you try Forza 7? That might have been more your thing.Yeah, no I didn't.
I confess that the issues with ssds also played a part of me avoiding gamepass, otherwise Id have certainly tried Forza 7.
By Vini.lad Go To PostYeah, no I didn't.Oof, yeah Motorsport is the proper racing game. Horizon is the casual, fart-around and do whatever game.
I confess that the issues with ssds also played a part of me avoiding gamepass, otherwise Id have certainly tried Forza 7.
By Daz Go To PostPele, bismirching the Holy SSDNah, there are some legit disadvantages to them but there may also be a problem that Pele had that I'm not aware of.
*removes belt*
Lots of reports about you not getting the space back from gamepass after you uninstall a game. After I formatted my laptop, I avoided using it again.
By jts Go To PostThis I believe:Console gamers win again
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamepass-pc-is-a-ticking-time-bomb-that-results-in-permanently-lost-hdd-ssd-space-unless-you-nuke-windows.340696/
By jts Go To PostThis I believe:Someone here had an issue like this, believe it was Facism. Such a weird issue to have.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamepass-pc-is-a-ticking-time-bomb-that-results-in-permanently-lost-hdd-ssd-space-unless-you-nuke-windows.340696/
I had it too, subbed to GP one month for Pirates and trying out the Minecraft dungeons thing?
After the month, deleted the games but there was still about 50 GBs I "lost".
After format the disk was good again.
Also, the store is extremely shite.
After the month, deleted the games but there was still about 50 GBs I "lost".
After format the disk was good again.
Also, the store is extremely shite.
By faridmon Go To PostI thought that SSD issue was supposed to be fixedThey've put the Bethesda QA department since they're so good at dealing with bugs.
Have Microsoft acknowledged it?
I've played a ton of gamepass games, but it's weird. It's not a launcher I have open usually. I also don't feel the need to make the most out of the sub or anything. Instead, whenever an interesting game like CK3 or Flight Sim drops I install it and whatever else is available at a glance. I've even missed some games I wanted to play like Desperados because I'm not actively searching for stuff.
The launcher is a piece of shit, using GOG Galaxy is literally faster to pull up the full library listing to find a game than the Xbox app itself. It also needs better discoverability features and we are still waiting on stuff like the EA pass integration.
I've never had the SSD issues, but in my experience, before you uninstall a game you should make sure it's completely up to date or you'll run into some trouble. Like I said, piece of shit. Definitely a priority fix before the big stuff (especially mod supported stuff) hits.
The launcher is a piece of shit, using GOG Galaxy is literally faster to pull up the full library listing to find a game than the Xbox app itself. It also needs better discoverability features and we are still waiting on stuff like the EA pass integration.
I've never had the SSD issues, but in my experience, before you uninstall a game you should make sure it's completely up to date or you'll run into some trouble. Like I said, piece of shit. Definitely a priority fix before the big stuff (especially mod supported stuff) hits.