All that cash to spend and still brings in less revenue than Sony or Nintendo. Typical American company got all the advantages and wasting them all.
By reilo Go To PostAll that cash to spend and still brings in less revenue than Sony or Nintendo. Typical American company got all the advantages and wasting them all.
Yeah, I'm sure MS brings in less revenue than Sony or Nintendo. Literal couch cushion money, meanwhile Sony continues to close studios, per usual, oh but we don't wanna talk about that.
The creativity at Sony is gone. Nothing but sequels. You hate to see it
By rerixo Go To Postphil is getting too strong
we need sony and nintendo to merge
Disney will buy Nintendo.
By Smokey Go To Post$7,500,000,000 in cash that was sitting in a bank doing nothing, flipped into Zenimax and PS fanboy tears. Made the 7 billy back the next quarter with ease tooAim higher than vaporware
you love to see it
Just need Phil to open the bag for From, or Elden Ring timed exclusive
By Pennywise Go To PostIt was honestly so nice without all the bullshit in here.
I'm byke
Deal with it
If you want to be in a Sony bubble, head to purple gaf, plenty of safe spaces
By Smokey Go To PostI'm bykeQuite ironic that it was the Xbox community that needed a safe space and created a splinter forum.
Deal with it
If you want to be in a Sony bubble, head to purple gaf, plenty of safe spaces
By inky Go To PostI think aside from Doom the rest are already on Game Pass, no?
It’s telling that the most exciting thing about this deal for Xboys is that they can finally stop pretending MS first party wasn’t dog shit before.
By Pennywise Go To PostQuite ironic that it was the Xbox community that needed a safe space and created a splinter forum.
Sony fans are insufferable. Depending on the day, worse than Nintendo, and that's not an easy thing to do. I don't blame them.
Why do yall have to be this way
I don't think GP on Sony is realistic? I'm sure both Sony and the devs make decent money as it is with the current PS arrangement.
seems like Sony's answer is the PS Collection, not that they need one tbh.
seems like Sony's answer is the PS Collection, not that they need one tbh.
By Yurtlicious Go To PostI think aside from Doom the rest are already on Game Pass, no?Doom Eternal, Rage 2, F76 and Dishonored 2 are the only ones I remember seeing in GP. Maybe console is different. I own all the rest on Steam, so it's whatever.
By inky Go To PostDoom Eternal, Rage 2, F76 and Dishonored 2 are the only ones I remember seeing in GP. Maybe console is different. I own all the rest on Steam, so it's whatever.yeah its a bit different. I do remember New Vegas and the Wolfensteins.
TEW, Skyrim and F4 too I think.
I haven't played Doom 3 since it released (and I played the gimped original Xbox version). Definitely going to play it again on GP.
By Pennywise Go To PostQuite ironic that it was the Xbox community that needed a safe space and created a splinter forum.This is that stuff that makes your soul burn slow. Penny stop he is already dead.
By Yurtlicious Go To PostI don't think GP on Sony is realistic? I'm sure both Sony and the devs make decent money as it is with the current PS arrangement.Sony seems to be in wait and see mode.
seems like Sony's answer is the PS Collection, not that they need one tbh.
By Daz Go To PostSony seems to be in wait and see mode.It probably looks that way but I am certain they are actively seeking out acquisitions. If MS continue their predatory ways there will be nothing left and they will be forced to incorporate GP into the PS ecosystem. And at that point you might as well pack your bags.
By Daz Go To PostSony seems to be in wait and see mode.
sony is not allowing game pass on PS
it's over
if you want wrpgs you'll have to deal with whatever is on PSNow
By Daz Go To PostSony seems to be in wait and see mode.why though? They don't have to copy each other's strategies
By rodeoclown Go To PostI haven't played Doom 3 since it released (and I played the gimped original Xbox version). Definitely going to play it again on GP.Kind of tempted to grab the VR version when it comes out especially since it's compatible with the Aim controller.
By Yurtlicious Go To Postwhy though? They don't have to copy each other's strategiesTrue - but I dont think its strategically sound to have zero reaction - hence why PS collection is a thing.
By Smokey Go To PostYeah, I'm sure MS brings in less revenue than Sony or Nintendo. Literal couch cushion money, meanwhile Sony continues to close studios, per usual, oh but we don't wanna talk about that.Their Gaming division gets trounced by both
The creativity at Sony is gone. Nothing but sequels. You hate to see it
By Daz Go To PostSony seems to be in wait and see mode.
Disney + already has over 100 million subscribers. There’s really no point in Nintendo and Sony being the ones taking the risk here when MS was the one talking about pulling the plug from Xbox because it’s a crap product.
isn't game pass on PS5 actually bad for Xbox (console)
like if you had to pick between the one with GP or the one with GP and other exclusives.....seems like a no brainer
what a brainless idea
like if you had to pick between the one with GP or the one with GP and other exclusives.....seems like a no brainer
what a brainless idea
By Daz Go To PostTrue - but I dont think its strategically sound to have zero reaction - hence why PS collection is a thing.and that's all they're going to do I think. I dunno where this whole Collection is going lmao like are they gonna keep adding games or something?
By Yurtlicious Go To Postisn't game pass on PS5 actually bad for Xbox (console)
like if you had to pick between the one with GP or the one with GP and other exclusives…..seems like a no brainer
what a brainless idea
No, because the performance of Xbox is measured by the performance of Game Pass, i.e. how many subscribers it has
By Yurtlicious Go To Postisn't game pass on PS5 actually bad for Xbox (console)
like if you had to pick between the one with GP or the one with GP and other exclusives…..seems like a no brainer
what a brainless idea
incredible logic
have you emailed this to phil?
By DY_nasty Go To Postpeople in who enjoy loop hero absolutely love itthe more i watch it, the more I hate it more.
I can't even grasp it
and I can't allow myself to hate anything more than Yakuza
By sy Go To PostThe real loss is Arkane Lyonsyeah, this one smarts - lord help me if they make a Dishonoured 3.
By Bungie Go To PostNo, because the performance of Xbox is measured by the performance of Game Pass, i.e. how many subscribers it hasokay, but the console sales won't suffer? Of course it will. GP is the biggest draw to their console.
By Yurtlicious Go To Postokay, but the console sales won't suffer? Of course it will.
The consoles are an access point for Game Pass. The real money remains in software not hardware, unless you're Nintendo
true true
Sony hit the brakes on something as silly as crossplay so this will take some doing to actually happen
Sony hit the brakes on something as silly as crossplay so this will take some doing to actually happen
By Bungie Go To PostThe consoles are an access point for Game Pass. The real money remains in software not hardware, unless you're NintendoYes but there's something to be said to get people on your ecosystem, and if people are buying PS5s because one of the advantages is that it has GamePass, that will be an overall bad strategy for Microsoft, imo.
I don't think it will happen, but for Microsoft it's just more valuable to have access to the larger amount of people who don't overlap than losing the smaller amount that do.
At this point in the cycle, it's more about the possibility than what you can make back in 1 or 2 years. If you have access to 100m base to upsell DLC, more subs, etc. for the next decade it becomes more profitable per person than what you can squeeze of out a piece of hardware, usually sold close to a loss.
I think Sony would rather die than allow gamepass on PS5.
At this point in the cycle, it's more about the possibility than what you can make back in 1 or 2 years. If you have access to 100m base to upsell DLC, more subs, etc. for the next decade it becomes more profitable per person than what you can squeeze of out a piece of hardware, usually sold close to a loss.
I think Sony would rather die than allow gamepass on PS5.
If it were to happen it would probably coincide with Microsoft leaving the hardware segment all together.
By reilo Go To PostIf it were to happen it would probably coincide with Microsoft leaving the hardware segment all together.GP would have to be a runaway success for that to happen.
If we are talking business the only thing that matters for these companies is revenue and then profit. Xbox division is a long ways off from being at the level, but it’s possible that Game Pass is their meal ticket. Before it was Xbox Live.
By reilo Go To PostYes but there's something to be said to get people on your ecosystem, and if people are buying PS5s because one of the advantages is that it has GamePass, that will be an overall bad strategy for Microsoft, imo.
Game Pass is pretty much the ecosystem. They still give people options, you can still buy their games elsewhere (Steam, disc versions of Xbox games). But why do you think they're investing so much money to build all these games that will go straight onto a service which doesn't require ownership of an Xbox console?
Because that's what they're selling you. On Xbox, on PC, cloud, wherever it doesn't really matter as long as they can reach as many users as possible to sell them a subscription.
By Yurtlicious Go To PostSony is doing extremely well, they shouldn't do anything lol..
shall i introduce you to the story of Intel and AMD CPUs on the PC side...
By Bungie Go To PostGame Pass is pretty much the ecosystem. They still give people options, you can still buy their games elsewhere (Steam, disc versions of Xbox games). But why do you think they're investing so much money to build all these games that will go straight onto a service which doesn't require ownership of an Xbox console?
Because that's what they're selling you. On Xbox, on PC, cloud, wherever it doesn't really matter as long as they can reach as many users as possible to sell them a subscription.
there's a really outdated and conventional line of thinking that if you don't buy an Xbox to play these games, somehow you're sticking it to MS. If you play them anywhere else, they are still getting your money, it doesn't really matter. They've stated this multiple times, but people choose to continue trying to tell the folks that run a trillion dollar company what is and isn't a success to them.
By JesalR Go To PostWhat's with the lack of Doom 2016 in that lineup?Not iconic enough.
By Smokey Go To Postshall i introduce you to the story of Intel and AMD CPUs on the PC side…No I'm good Smokey but thank you
By Smokey Go To Postthere's a really outdated and conventional line of thinking that if you don't buy an Xbox to play these games, somehow you're sticking it to MS. If you play them anywhere else, they are still getting your money, it doesn't really matter. They've stated this multiple times, but people choose to ignore what is considered a success by the folks in said trillion dollar company.
I know for a while people were dismissive of the idea that Microsoft were more concerned about Game Pass subscription growth than hardware sales, the thinking being that this was some sort of excuse that Microsoft executives would put out because they were embarrassed about how far behind they were in that metric (this was always a ridiculous line of thinking - Satya isn't going to sit there reading a bunch of lies about performance metrics and be ok with it).
But I thought we were well past that by now.