Gather teams of magical characters and try your damndest to break the other team's final objective - such is the essence of Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas. Initially called "Dota clones", these games have grown into a gaming genre that is as popular as it is soul-crushing. With players in every corner of the world except Antarctica, MOBAs are the focus of some of the biggest e-sports gaming events in the world.
League of Legends is the oldest on this list, and neck and neck for most popular with Dota. Its streams are commonly some of the most watched on Twitch, sometimes for the wrong reasons. Its lore, dodgy as it is, has been expanded enough to warrant more games set in its universe, including single player console games and a multiplayer card game. Its devs have also gone deep into marketing the game's professional competition, but whether it is actual competition or just a marketing ploy is up to your interpretation.
Dota 2 is, as the name implies, the sequel to the legendary Defense of the Ancients mod for Warcraft III. While League is more accessible for newcomers to the genre, Dota 2 features more advanced mechanics, potentially longer games and all heroes unlocked from the beginning. Much like League, it also has popular professional competition, although not as regionally top-heavy as the former, and with a perpetually expanding prize pool. Although the original DotA was in a Blizzard game, said company ended up losing the trademark to current devs Valve, in another example of them not capitalizing on long-term success when it hits them in the face.
That did not deter Blizzard from trying to make their own DotA with Heroes of the Storm, featuring characters from Blizzard's memorable RTS franchises as well as Overwatch. While other games and their professional counterparts are typically played in a single map, HotS features a variety of maps with each having their own different objective but sharing the same final goal. Notoriously, Blizzard actually killed off official professional competition a while back because it just wasn't thee-sports sensation they expected it to be. It still exists, just underground.
While the above games are played from a top-down perspective, Smite by the evil Tribes killers Hi-Rez Studios is different in that it's played with a third-person camera and a different control scheme. Sometimes slammed for its character designs and occasionally in trouble with actual religious scholars, Smite allows you to play with gods from a multitude of pantheons, including Odin, Ganesha, Thor, etc. No Jesus, though.
I know next to nothing about Heroes of Newerth but it seems to have its followers so I'm including it in this list.
Discuss your personal experiences, and perhaps pro play as well.
League of Legends is the oldest on this list, and neck and neck for most popular with Dota. Its streams are commonly some of the most watched on Twitch, sometimes for the wrong reasons. Its lore, dodgy as it is, has been expanded enough to warrant more games set in its universe, including single player console games and a multiplayer card game. Its devs have also gone deep into marketing the game's professional competition, but whether it is actual competition or just a marketing ploy is up to your interpretation.
Dota 2 is, as the name implies, the sequel to the legendary Defense of the Ancients mod for Warcraft III. While League is more accessible for newcomers to the genre, Dota 2 features more advanced mechanics, potentially longer games and all heroes unlocked from the beginning. Much like League, it also has popular professional competition, although not as regionally top-heavy as the former, and with a perpetually expanding prize pool. Although the original DotA was in a Blizzard game, said company ended up losing the trademark to current devs Valve, in another example of them not capitalizing on long-term success when it hits them in the face.
That did not deter Blizzard from trying to make their own DotA with Heroes of the Storm, featuring characters from Blizzard's memorable RTS franchises as well as Overwatch. While other games and their professional counterparts are typically played in a single map, HotS features a variety of maps with each having their own different objective but sharing the same final goal. Notoriously, Blizzard actually killed off official professional competition a while back because it just wasn't the
While the above games are played from a top-down perspective, Smite by the evil Tribes killers Hi-Rez Studios is different in that it's played with a third-person camera and a different control scheme. Sometimes slammed for its character designs and occasionally in trouble with actual religious scholars, Smite allows you to play with gods from a multitude of pantheons, including Odin, Ganesha, Thor, etc. No Jesus, though.
I know next to nothing about Heroes of Newerth but it seems to have its followers so I'm including it in this list.
Discuss your personal experiences, and perhaps pro play as well.
I used to play LoL a lot. It was my introduction to the genre. For some reason or another (probably the more inflexible roles + the all the grinding for rune pages and such) put me off of it. I still watch the occasional tournament, though.
DotA2 I tried playing for a dozen or two hours but I just can't. Too much to keep track of and know. The absolute best MOBA to watch pros play, imo. Love that aspect of it.
Played a little bit of Smite but not it never quite hooked me. Neither did watching pros.
HotS is what I am currently playing with my gf. It is fast paced and has multiple maps with different objectives which keeps things varied. The lack of an item shop is actually something I like as it is one less thing I need to learn. The talents are enough to customize builds for any particular game. The games are also kept short, though I do wish there was a generic buy back for each hero like in DotA2.
DotA2 I tried playing for a dozen or two hours but I just can't. Too much to keep track of and know. The absolute best MOBA to watch pros play, imo. Love that aspect of it.
Played a little bit of Smite but not it never quite hooked me. Neither did watching pros.
HotS is what I am currently playing with my gf. It is fast paced and has multiple maps with different objectives which keeps things varied. The lack of an item shop is actually something I like as it is one less thing I need to learn. The talents are enough to customize builds for any particular game. The games are also kept short, though I do wish there was a generic buy back for each hero like in DotA2.
The games aren't for me but I like some of the splash art and artists:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/688yWN
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/58lbNg
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/688yWN
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/58lbNg
played dota for a few thousand hours, it used to be great but icefrog fucked it. can still be fun to watch I guess
By Kibner Go To PostI used to play LoL a lot. It was my introduction to the genre. For some reason or another (probably the more inflexible roles + the all the grinding for rune pages and such) put me off of it. I still watch the occasional tournament, though.Didn't they change that by now?
DotA2 I tried playing for a dozen or two hours but I just can't. Too much to keep track of and know. The absolute best MOBA to watch pros play, imo. Love that aspect of it.
Played a little bit of Smite but not it never quite hooked me. Neither did watching pros.
HotS is what I am currently playing with my gf. It is fast paced and has multiple maps with different objectives which keeps things varied. The lack of an item shop is actually something I like as it is one less thing I need to learn. The talents are enough to customize builds for any particular game. The games are also kept short, though I do wish there was a generic buy back for each hero like in DotA2.
Anyway, I also played quite a bit.
But lost any interest in it once it became really popular and all those cunts arrived. Played a bit of ARAM mode in between, but I'm more of an SP guy all around. Lost all interest since friends also started to play different things.
By Pennywise Go To PostDidn't they change that by now?
They did, old runes basically got removed and got combined into masteries to form what are currently called runes.
I played LOL for like 5 years? Still love being a support but after being away for so long it seems like a huge chore getting back up to speed. I just play Aram now and then now.
By HonestVapes Go To PostI miss ParagonI played like five matches of it and thought it felt awful. =/
By Lupercal Go To PostI played LOL for like 5 years? Still love being a support but after being away for so long it seems like a huge chore getting back up to speed. I just play Aram now and then now.
I had 5 years from like 2014-2019, but I stopped and went cold turkey at the end of last year. I still enjoy watching pro games but actually playing it is such a chore.
By Kibner Go To PostI played like five matches of it and thought it felt awful. =/
I hated it at first too, especially as it was the first MOBA I played and the game really wasn’t clear on how shit *worked*, if you know what i mean?
I suppose as well it would depend on when you started playing it, since when it came out it was vastly different to what it was like when I started playing around 2016/2017, and months before they closed the servers it had a pretty substantial overhaul again.
I persisted though, I had a couple friends into it that got me on board then gradually grew to like it a lot.
When they changed the card deck system to something else, it kinda killed off my enthusiasm to play though. Partly because I had a ridiculously tanky deck for playing offlane with Greystone.
I could slow push a lane all day and tower dive to finish them off without issue.
Been playing a lot of unranked lately as I don't want to play ranked when using heroes I've not used a lot, which I'm doing for the cavern.
It's an absolute fucking mess. Stupid hero choices in stupid lanes playing stupidly. My rank is very low, but the standard of play is miles higher.
People who play turbo are a disgrace.
Kinda needed the cavern to break me out of my routine of just picking Spectre every match.
It's an absolute fucking mess. Stupid hero choices in stupid lanes playing stupidly. My rank is very low, but the standard of play is miles higher.
People who play turbo are a disgrace.
Kinda needed the cavern to break me out of my routine of just picking Spectre every match.
Heroes of Newerth was basically Dota 1.5. It and LoL started development at a very similar time, both aiming to be the first MOBAs to capture the original Dota crowd. I think HoN had the original creator of the mod on their staff, while LoL had some who were later developers and Dota 2 eventually got Icefrog who was most responsible for the success of the mod.
HoN really was just Dota with its own client and interface. It put me off a bit, having already played the original for years by that point I was looking for something fresh which LoL provided. I don't think it was poorly regarded by any means and didn't do badly, but once Dota 2 released it basically stole all its thunder and I'm surprised the game is even still available to play at this point.
HoN really was just Dota with its own client and interface. It put me off a bit, having already played the original for years by that point I was looking for something fresh which LoL provided. I don't think it was poorly regarded by any means and didn't do badly, but once Dota 2 released it basically stole all its thunder and I'm surprised the game is even still available to play at this point.
Playing some Rexxar in HotS today. They are a ranged bruiser unit with a bear to micro. Kind of like Lone Druid in DotA 2. I was kind of intimidated to try it against real people first so I tried them out in a bot match. Actually much easier than I thought it would be.
Overall, pretty fun, if a bit awkward to learn. I sometimes confuse which of the two units is my character and which is the bear when I need to get the bear to lunge forward to stun enemies. Perhaps it is something I will learn in time. I wonder if there is a UI option to make pet health bars a different color, as I think that would help me.
Overall, pretty fun, if a bit awkward to learn. I sometimes confuse which of the two units is my character and which is the bear when I need to get the bear to lunge forward to stun enemies. Perhaps it is something I will learn in time. I wonder if there is a UI option to make pet health bars a different color, as I think that would help me.
Big patch notes for DotA 2: https://www.dota2.com/patches/
Lots of changes and some big reversions (particularly with Clinkz).
Lots of changes and some big reversions (particularly with Clinkz).
Absolutely battered a Storm Spirit with Medusa earlier. Didn't make use of it so needed the sidelines to get the kills in fights later on, but bullied him out of the lane.
Didn't realise how quickly your farm drops on her when you waste a few minutes looking for kills that don't happen. Went from being like a thousand gold ahead of the target, to two thousand behind in the blink of an eye.
Didn't realise how quickly your farm drops on her when you waste a few minutes looking for kills that don't happen. Went from being like a thousand gold ahead of the target, to two thousand behind in the blink of an eye.
By Hitch Go To PostSeems that Icefrog has fucked Bloodseeker :(RIP. He was one of my favorites because gotta go fast!
Was the most fun hero to use
HotS also had a big balance update yesterday. Hadn't really dug into it because I would rather spend time playing. lol
Man they nerfed BS into the ground a year ago and then slowly buffed him up, now they just shit on him again.
Cry with me, Facismo
He legit just needed his numbers tweaking. Reworking the abilities altogether was completely unnecessary.
He legit just needed his numbers tweaking. Reworking the abilities altogether was completely unnecessary.
What a stupid hero. Jugg's healing ward should disappear when he dies.
Why is the resolution so shit for the first 15 seconds? Recorded it through the Windows Gameroom thingy. The capture itself is fine.
The resolution was fine for me throughout. Might just be a Youtube being stupid thing. And DotA is all about stupid things happening so I say keep it! lol
HotS is supposed to be removing the environmental anomalies in an update. They admitted that 1) the effects caused a lot of issues with people's machines and 2) they weren't enabling more enjoyable gameplay like they expected.
HotS is supposed to be removing the environmental anomalies in an update. They admitted that 1) the effects caused a lot of issues with people's machines and 2) they weren't enabling more enjoyable gameplay like they expected.
Legit my third rampage in 6 years of playing. One was with Invoker*, the other was with PA I think.
*at a level of unranked where I got away with only using the forge spirits and cold snap
*at a level of unranked where I got away with only using the forge spirits and cold snap
By Hitch Go To Post
Jugg wins by running away and auto attacking.mp4
By Kibner Go To PostSumail out of OG and Ceb back in.That was quick then Ana will come back eventually so really all they lost was Jerax.
By Kibner Go To PostSumail out of OG and Ceb back in.
INCOMING HAT TRICK
By Dennis St. James Go To PostINCOMING HAT TRICKYou see it, too, eh?
Schalke 04 just made a massive miracle run to get into the European LoL league playoffs. 7 wins in a row and they still depended on other results out of their control, but the stars aligned in their favor. If they somehow get a World Championship spot I'm going to freak out.
By Dennis St. James Go To PostSchalke 04 just made a massive miracle run to get into the European LoL league playoffs. 7 wins in a row and they still depended on other results out of their control, but the stars aligned in their favor. If they somehow get a World Championship spot I'm going to freak out.XD
Finally got a Terrorblade win, and only because it was unranked and two of the other team ended up feeding. Dreadful hero.
Just got Dragon Knight and Tiny left for the carries, and Leshrac for Utility. Then it's onto the supports 😔
Just got Dragon Knight and Tiny left for the carries, and Leshrac for Utility. Then it's onto the supports 😔
I enjoy playing supports but I can only enable teammates so much. I don't like having to rely on others as much lately, so I have started playing more carries.
In HotS, anyway.
In HotS, anyway.
By Dennis St. James Go To PostSchalke 04 just made a massive miracle run to get into the European LoL league playoffs. 7 wins in a row and they still depended on other results out of their control, but the stars aligned in their favor. If they somehow get a World Championship spot I'm going to freak out.it's Schalke, they'll choke.
By Kibner Go To PostI'm terrible at Gul'dan.I remember him being a really high APM character, but he was one of my favorites because he's so self-sustaining.
By Hitch Go To PostDoesn't play for meI decided to remove the link from the embed as that wasn't working but now you can just click it. N0Tail was asked what he thinks about the upcoming EG vs Secret series. "EG super shit."
By Kibner Go To Posthttps://clips.twitch.tv/EnjoyableNeighborlyDogTheTarFu
💀
lmao
I think this is league, I like the design:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dODQ6W
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dODQ6W
By sy Go To PostI think this is league, I like the design:Yeah, she's one of the newer champs released in 2018 I believe
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dODQ6W
Dota battle pass over. Goodnight sweet prince 😔
The fact that they don't run season passes throughout the year is mental to me, Dota plus just doesn't compare. Especially since they never update the fucking thing.
At least spectre won the arcana vote, my best hero by far.
The fact that they don't run season passes throughout the year is mental to me, Dota plus just doesn't compare. Especially since they never update the fucking thing.
At least spectre won the arcana vote, my best hero by far.
Kyle feels your pain and wrote a bit about the professional scene and how Valve is doing a terrible job at actually fucking marketing the game.
https://medium.com/@keepingitKyle/ti-1%C3%B8-b2711ae5d42b
https://medium.com/@keepingitKyle/ti-1%C3%B8-b2711ae5d42b
By Kibner Go To PostKyle feels your pain and wrote a bit about the professional scene and how Valve is doing a terrible job at actually fucking marketing the game.
https://medium.com/@keepingitKyle/ti-1%C3%B8-b2711ae5d42b
That's fucking sad. Someday we'll get a good game ran by competent people, but that day still seems so far away.