The big guy is hilarious. Smokes 1 guy, gets shot by another, goes into berserk and smokes that cunt too lmao
By DY_nasty Go To PostWhile looking for performance stuff on the steam forums, I saw how people were getting absolutely smoked by that mission lol. From what I can tell, you just have to absolutely blitz the objective and take all Ls necessary even though the boss is OP.If I had Zephyr it would be a lot easier but I put her on training to heal her scar. I might have to go back that far..
But more people alive, greater your chance at Intel at the end of a mission. There's also weird shit like Verge's Collar ability - lets him keep Neural Network benefits from enemies even when they're knocked out.
edit: "stop resisiting" lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/g7rn8y/knocked_some_guy_unconscious/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
So far the most effective method I've found is I have Verge go through the left with holo-targeting on the Guardian and send the other 3 on the right to take out the MEC, as those two enemies make shit a lot harder if you leave them alive. What I fucked up on was not hitting the switch. I had it down to the last enemy and it didn't say anything about a second wave of reinforcements but they came and yeah....reinforcements are no joke
I finally did it after probably over an hour.. I almost restarted because I used my times up to put Terminal up next since she has that ability to grant someone another action, only it was on cooldown...
I figured I would keep going and see what would happen. I decided not to touch the guardian and let him give every enemy armor because he's right next to the objective, so I used Shelter's ability to swap right next to it and disable it. Then a few turns later swapped him with the ronin in the back for when the second objective comes up. My whole gameplan was just keep Verge alive because I chose the ability for him to recover health from each person in his neural network which meant I never needed to heal him, and Terminal could just keep healing herself. For some reason they never paid attention to Godmother so she had free shots the whole time. They kept going after Verge but he would just heal 6hp+ every time, and if it was getting too close he had a medkit.
This shit was so infuriating and I almost just said fuck it but it feels so good finally overcoming that shit.
I figured I would keep going and see what would happen. I decided not to touch the guardian and let him give every enemy armor because he's right next to the objective, so I used Shelter's ability to swap right next to it and disable it. Then a few turns later swapped him with the ronin in the back for when the second objective comes up. My whole gameplan was just keep Verge alive because I chose the ability for him to recover health from each person in his neural network which meant I never needed to heal him, and Terminal could just keep healing herself. For some reason they never paid attention to Godmother so she had free shots the whole time. They kept going after Verge but he would just heal 6hp+ every time, and if it was getting too close he had a medkit.
This shit was so infuriating and I almost just said fuck it but it feels so good finally overcoming that shit.
By Yurt Lockhart Go To Postit is a feature
By DY_nasty Go To PostI'm trying to like Axiom but I'm not seeing itHe is a breaching machine..
By blackace Go To PostHe is a breaching machine..Dude's melee hits ain't even guaranteed status effects and if you build for AOE, he risks hitting civilians or explosive objects when he berserks. There's better tanks or more versatile tanks and his damage ain't there.
Breaching is all he got going for him. He's aite early and mid game but after that idk yal
I'm going to buy XCOM 2. Is War of the Chosen like an expansion or is it similar to how Enemy Within was where it was basically just a mod?
Sacred Coil last is my greatest mistake.
Torque went from carrying to being damn near useless 😂
Thankfully all my field teams are level two at least and I'm t3 armor working on tier 3 weapons. But holy shit. I'm going all or nothing on leveling up my other unused guys. My main squad was Terminal, Verge, Blueblood, Torque but now I've gotta try and get mileage out of Godmother, Kaiden, and Axiom. Even gonna give Cherub another go.
These mechs too thicc
Torque went from carrying to being damn near useless 😂
Thankfully all my field teams are level two at least and I'm t3 armor working on tier 3 weapons. But holy shit. I'm going all or nothing on leveling up my other unused guys. My main squad was Terminal, Verge, Blueblood, Torque but now I've gotta try and get mileage out of Godmother, Kaiden, and Axiom. Even gonna give Cherub another go.
These mechs too thicc
By aka Espi Go To PostI'm going to buy XCOM 2. Is War of the Chosen like an expansion or is it similar to how Enemy Within was where it was basically just a mod?Yeah, WOTC is an expansion. Great stuff too.
By aka Espi Go To PostI'm going to buy XCOM 2. Is War of the Chosen like an expansion or is it similar to how Enemy Within was where it was basically just a mod?War of the Chosen is essential. It adds hero classes/clans and three WILD antagonists.
These dudes such dead weight at this stage of the game omg
Axion ain't about shit. Jumps around mad and has to be teleported to the evac by Shelter and the whole bag of abilities. I can't believe people hype this bum up. A disgrace to Mutons everywhere. First time in the whole game I've went multiple missions without 5+ captures. No damage output right now. His fault. Would rather bring the robot. At least they don't miss melee attacks.
Godmother needs a second shot to be worth her spot. Equipment dependent even at high level. The shred from T3 shotguns keeps her worth up tho.
Shelter ain't even bad. SMGs just suck. He's probably great against Progeny.
Cherub needs too much shit working perfectly to be an asset. He's still more valuable on a breach than Axiom will ever be though.
Axion ain't about shit. Jumps around mad and has to be teleported to the evac by Shelter and the whole bag of abilities. I can't believe people hype this bum up. A disgrace to Mutons everywhere. First time in the whole game I've went multiple missions without 5+ captures. No damage output right now. His fault. Would rather bring the robot. At least they don't miss melee attacks.
Godmother needs a second shot to be worth her spot. Equipment dependent even at high level. The shred from T3 shotguns keeps her worth up tho.
Shelter ain't even bad. SMGs just suck. He's probably great against Progeny.
Cherub needs too much shit working perfectly to be an asset. He's still more valuable on a breach than Axiom will ever be though.
Cherub is garbage. Axiom at least can tank forever with overdrive juice. A shame he can't actually kill anything.
Verge is OP. Got his last skill. Pure anime.
Verge is OP. Got his last skill. Pure anime.
By DY_nasty Go To PostCherub is garbage. Axiom at least can tank forever with overdrive juice. A shame he can't actually kill anything.Just discovered Verge's OPness...
Verge is OP. Got his last skill. Pure anime.
No wonder we lost
Verge OP as fuck he carried me through Sacred Coil’s final mission by himself. Took him out of my party one mission to try and give him some training time and it felt like I moved up a difficulty
since you guys are going xcom crazy phantom doctrine is on sale 80% off:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/559100/Phantom_Doctrine/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/559100/Phantom_Doctrine/
By blackace Go To PostAnyone notice the achievement for clearing Gray Phoenix?super petty. also, playing with the bum squad got me Pacifist Route lmao
petty af.. lol
complete a mission with NO kills brehs
By toku Go To Postsince you guys are going xcom crazy phantom doctrine is on sale 80% off:Thanks for the heads up but man.... Phantom Doctrine is not worth the time. I got it for damn near free, gave it a few hours, and haven't touched it since. Its got real, fundamental problems despite a quality paint job.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/559100/Phantom_Doctrine/
Yeah I've heard nothing but mixed stuff about it, at 80% off though I figured someone might want to give it a shot.
Right now I'm running Verge, Terminal, Godmother and Shelter. Progeny looking like the Knicks out here.
Fully upgraded Verge is OP as fuck without even having to fire a bullet. Just neural network everyone and on the last encounter just puppeteer them for fun. Godmother just does insane damage and I got an epic shotgun from the scavenger market, one of her abilities lets her get a free shot on anyone in close range so if anyone is dumb enough to even get near her, they're getting demolished. Shelter can create a clone who can also swap/soulblast so that's essentially a 5th squad member as the clone has 2 action points as well.
I leave Shelter next to Godmother, have Shelter swap with an enemy so they're in her close range. If anyone is weak I'll have the clone soulblast for the kill, if not I'll just swap with whichever enemy is supposed to attack next.
Terminal is pretty much there to just heal if for some reason someone manages to do more than 3 points of damage to anyone. Otherwise I just have her do her pinned down ability on whichever enemy is about to attack so that it skips their turn. Her last skill lets you heal everyone for 4hp and I've never even had the need to use it.
Fully upgraded Verge is OP as fuck without even having to fire a bullet. Just neural network everyone and on the last encounter just puppeteer them for fun. Godmother just does insane damage and I got an epic shotgun from the scavenger market, one of her abilities lets her get a free shot on anyone in close range so if anyone is dumb enough to even get near her, they're getting demolished. Shelter can create a clone who can also swap/soulblast so that's essentially a 5th squad member as the clone has 2 action points as well.
I leave Shelter next to Godmother, have Shelter swap with an enemy so they're in her close range. If anyone is weak I'll have the clone soulblast for the kill, if not I'll just swap with whichever enemy is supposed to attack next.
Terminal is pretty much there to just heal if for some reason someone manages to do more than 3 points of damage to anyone. Otherwise I just have her do her pinned down ability on whichever enemy is about to attack so that it skips their turn. Her last skill lets you heal everyone for 4hp and I've never even had the need to use it.
Progeny didn't even stand a chance. On encounter 2 I just subdue'd the shit out of Violet because killing her would have been too easy.
There's some serious balancing issues I feel, and a lot of shit isn't even worth it. You don't need that much elerium or credits. I have 1000 credits and nothing to spend it on, and 800 elerium. Unless there's about to be way more shit unlocking in the last third of the game what am I supposed to do with all of this.
There's some serious balancing issues I feel, and a lot of shit isn't even worth it. You don't need that much elerium or credits. I have 1000 credits and nothing to spend it on, and 800 elerium. Unless there's about to be way more shit unlocking in the last third of the game what am I supposed to do with all of this.
I just want you all to know that I'm hate-reading this thread and wish you nothing but crashes until they announce the peasant version
no I'm kidding but Espi's post is really hyping me up, this sounds fun. Materials don't mean shit anymore? Even better!
no I'm kidding but Espi's post is really hyping me up, this sounds fun. Materials don't mean shit anymore? Even better!
Violet got oppressed hard af. Thoroughly booked and processed. Progeny ain't shit (as long as you never give sorcerors turns).
but da fuq
Mannnnnnn I WISH I had some credits 😂. I didn't feel the elerium crunch until late in faction 3. I'm near the end of it against sacred coil and the wall is basically how do you deal with armor and mechs if you haven't until now. All money goes towards masterworks and gear. I've got nearly every district with a level 3 field team tho.
but da fuq
Mannnnnnn I WISH I had some credits 😂. I didn't feel the elerium crunch until late in faction 3. I'm near the end of it against sacred coil and the wall is basically how do you deal with armor and mechs if you haven't until now. All money goes towards masterworks and gear. I've got nearly every district with a level 3 field team tho.
By Yurt Lockhart Go To PostI just want you all to know that I'm hate-reading this thread and wish you nothing but crashes until they announce the peasant versionFrom what I'm reading, it's really luck of the draw for resources at times. I've stacked Intel to the ceiling because my early and mid game teams were all about subduing everyone in sight.
no I'm kidding but Espi's post is really hyping me up, this sounds fun. Materials don't mean shit anymore? Even better!
Late game? I'm trying blow the whole building up and gas whoever survives.
I don't even know what they were called because they never survived long enough for me to see their name, it was the enemy that floats? He just looks like he would fuck shit up so I always made sure to take him out. I never saw Resonants attack either. I wasn't even worried about Codex because I could just keep pushing their turn back with either Shelter or Terminal, so I let Verge and Godmother take out sorcerers/acolytes.
Sorcerors are baby avatars. They can also link with other enemies and have those units tank damage on their behalf.
yo this whole time i had no idea you could put a squad member on assembly duty to speed it up. wtf
no wonder why it kept telling me someone is idle.
no wonder why it kept telling me someone is idle.
By aka Espi Go To Postyo this whole time i had no idea you could put a squad member on assembly duty to speed it up. wtfthat explains so much about why you have all those resources lmao
no wonder why it kept telling me someone is idle.
just so you know, t3 weapons come with armor shred - you need that shit.
By Facism Go To Postfirst crash.I get a crash every few hours tbh
shit smoother than xcom 2 at launch i tell thee
only consistent in game bug i've seen is axiom refusing to touch the earth for extended periods of time.
By DY_nasty Go To Postthat explains so much about why you have all those resources lmaoI have had that with a few agents
just so you know, t3 weapons come with armor shred - you need that shit.
I get a crash every few hours tbh
only consistent in game bug i've seen is axiom refusing to touch the earth for extended periods of time.
well axiom is so thicc he probably generates his own gravity, pushing him from the surface of the earf
I gave him regen weave, overdrive serum, and put all of his abilities towards tanking and now i'm pretty sure axiom can tank several playcrashes
The $10ness of this game is starting to get to me. Unless you’re playing a critical mission they just keep reusing the same maps. I’m still enjoying the game but I wish they had a bigger budget to create more unique missions.
By aka Espi Go To PostThe $10ness of this game is starting to get to me. Unless you’re playing a critical mission they just keep reusing the same maps. I’m still enjoying the game but I wish they had a bigger budget to create more unique missions.sure maps will be the mods that come lol
By aka Espi Go To PostThe $10ness of this game is starting to get to me. Unless you’re playing a critical mission they just keep reusing the same maps. I’m still enjoying the game but I wish they had a bigger budget to create more unique missions.Definitely starts to hop out at you in faction 2 or 3. I think a bit more enemy diversity would've helped too. For example, a true tank or aerial units would've changed things up a lot. Things change a bit depending on your group and what you're up against. I DO like that. But mods tho
By blackace Go To Postsure maps will be the mods that come lolyepppp
I do like the different maps for the factions plus the different enemies that make you have to try different squads tho..
I just started Sacred Coil for my 2nd factions because I did not want to do them last, and the first missions was robot heavy making verge useless.. so that was the first time really swapping up my squad and was actually having fun learning the other members powers and what not..
I just started Sacred Coil for my 2nd factions because I did not want to do them last, and the first missions was robot heavy making verge useless.. so that was the first time really swapping up my squad and was actually having fun learning the other members powers and what not..
My game keeps freezing up and I have to restart my PC as I can't close the game. This shit is annoying
edit - I beat the game. It was a slow start for me but I really enjoyed the game, and I wonder which elements (if any) they will carry over to XCOM 3. Based on feedback I wonder if they would make changes to 3 that might upset the fanbase, and maybe just keep Chimera Squad as a side project. There's a lot that can be improved on but it's a really fun game, maybe a bit too easy with some of the decisions they made, like some actions not spending action points, some of the abilities can be really strong.
Seems like every character is useful depending on your playstyle. Personally thought Cherub was useless but I saw people on Era and Reddit that really thought he was good. I wasn't too fond of Axiom either but a lot of people seemed to enjoy using him.
edit - I beat the game. It was a slow start for me but I really enjoyed the game, and I wonder which elements (if any) they will carry over to XCOM 3. Based on feedback I wonder if they would make changes to 3 that might upset the fanbase, and maybe just keep Chimera Squad as a side project. There's a lot that can be improved on but it's a really fun game, maybe a bit too easy with some of the decisions they made, like some actions not spending action points, some of the abilities can be really strong.
Seems like every character is useful depending on your playstyle. Personally thought Cherub was useless but I saw people on Era and Reddit that really thought he was good. I wasn't too fond of Axiom either but a lot of people seemed to enjoy using him.
I just like Motons..
Actually if you play around with every character they are useful.. Patchwork against the Sacred Coil has been pretty useful and I just got her..
Actually if you play around with every character they are useful.. Patchwork against the Sacred Coil has been pretty useful and I just got her..
Yeah, everyone has a usage.
(I just think mileage may vary depending on difficulty and preference of playstyles)
(I just think mileage may vary depending on difficulty and preference of playstyles)
Cherub is indispensable in the early game where there aren't as many enemies, and full damage mitigation can carry entire encounters. He becomes useful again late game with his supercharge ability, which legitimately breaks the game when combined with Blueblood's skills.
Gonna start my second playthrough soon enough, played with Blueblood, Cherub, Terminal, Zephyr, Torque, Godmother, Shelter, verge for my first playthrough. Tier list among those would go something like
Broken/extremely useful - Terminal, Blueblood
Overtuned/very useful - verge
Good/useful - Cherub, Godmother, Shelter
Solid/specific use - Zephyr, Torque
Gonna start my second playthrough soon enough, played with Blueblood, Cherub, Terminal, Zephyr, Torque, Godmother, Shelter, verge for my first playthrough. Tier list among those would go something like
Broken/extremely useful - Terminal, Blueblood
Overtuned/very useful - verge
Good/useful - Cherub, Godmother, Shelter
Solid/specific use - Zephyr, Torque
I think one of the points of the game was the different tandems you can do... it's pretty balanced actually
Axiom with the weapon mod that doesn't end your turn on firing plus Adrenal Surge. Wew. Take a shot, adrenal, pysch up, melee one cunt, melee another, berserk, melee one more.
Just incredible value for a single turn.
Just incredible value for a single turn.
By Facism Go To PostAxiom with the weapon mod that doesn't end your turn on firing plus Adrenal Surge. Wew. Take a shot, adrenal, pysch up, melee one cunt, melee another, berserk, melee one more.That weapon mod is shines more for Godmother imo
Just incredible value for a single turn.
By DY_nasty Go To PostThat weapon mod is shines more for Godmother imo
Perm untouchable for the encounter if you have the free-reload mod too innit.
By Facism Go To PostPerm untouchable for the encounter if you have the free-reload mod too innit.Yeah. And its so make or break that I don't even think Godmother is even B-tier without it.
By Trey Go To PostCherub is indispensable in the early game where there aren't as many enemies, and full damage mitigation can carry entire encounters. He becomes useful again late game with his supercharge ability, which legitimately breaks the game when combined with Blueblood's skills.Yeah, I think Cherub is love or hate. Some people swear by him and for others he can't get off the bench. My biggest problem with him is that he's a support unit that can't fight. That support itself is great, but he doesn't bring CC, action economy benefits, mobility, or true tanking making him a glue guy that also needs a glue guy. Flat damage immunity is huge and so is a team damage buff later. Some would rather trade that for another gun that can move and shoot.
Gonna start my second playthrough soon enough, played with Blueblood, Cherub, Terminal, Zephyr, Torque, Godmother, Shelter, verge for my first playthrough. Tier list among those would go something like
Broken/extremely useful - Terminal, Blueblood
Overtuned/very useful - verge
Good/useful - Cherub, Godmother, Shelter
Solid/specific use - Zephyr, Torque
I might do my own tier list after another playthrough. Seems fun. I just have to make sure that I ALWAYS do sacred coil first from now on.
Terminal is borderline too good. Being a medic with no cooldown heals/defensive bonuses is one thing, but cooperation too?
She is a crutch. Straight up lol
She is a crutch. Straight up lol
By DY_nasty Go To PostTerminal is borderline too good. Being a medic with no cooldown heals/defensive bonuses is one thing, but cooperation too?
She is a crutch. Straight up lol
Cooperation, 3 utility slots, free heals every turn. Just straight up busted. Her heals also give armor too lmao