Big shout out to Varadkar for publicly attacking the public health chief and the idea of a four week lockdown when it was recommended two weeks ago.
Situation in Portugal is getting terrible. Two weeks ago, people were shocked that we were having over 1000 new cases.
This week we've broke our record number of cases in a day 3 times. Before October, the highest number of cases in a day was 1516 in the 10th of April.
Today we had 2608 new cases...
More restrictions have been put in place, masks are required everywhere, even on the street, gatherings have been reduced to a maximum of 5, government is trying to force people to install the contact tracing application but people are refusing.
None of that applies to my region, our situation is under control so far.
Still, it's quite scary.
This week we've broke our record number of cases in a day 3 times. Before October, the highest number of cases in a day was 1516 in the 10th of April.
Today we had 2608 new cases...
More restrictions have been put in place, masks are required everywhere, even on the street, gatherings have been reduced to a maximum of 5, government is trying to force people to install the contact tracing application but people are refusing.
None of that applies to my region, our situation is under control so far.
Still, it's quite scary.
Seems a lot of countries are experiencing a bad resurgence now, think people are just tired of lockdown
By LFMartins86 Go To PostSituation in Portugal is getting terrible. Two weeks ago, people were shocked that we were having over 1000 new cases.
This week we've broke our record number of cases in a day 3 times. Before October, the highest number of cases in a day was 1516 in the 10th of April.
Today we had 2608 new cases…
More restrictions have been put in place, masks are required everywhere, even on the street, gatherings have been reduced to a maximum of 5, government is trying to force people to install the contact tracing application but people are refusing.
None of that applies to my region, our situation is under control so far.
Still, it's quite scary.
we have pretty much exactly the same numbers (record of 1500 in april and 3000 this week) but 2 Million fewer people.😑
looks like Pfizer and BionTech are on schedule to release their phase 3 vaccine trials sometime this month.
By Kabro Go To Postlooks like Pfizer and BionTech are on schedule to release their phase 3 vaccine trials sometime this month.Straight into my veins pls.
By Kabro Go To Postlooks like Pfizer and BionTech are on schedule to release their phase 3 vaccine trials sometime this month.Means they could get approval by December or so
By Kabro Go To Postlooks like Pfizer and BionTech are on schedule to release their phase 3 vaccine trials sometime this month.Should have bought Biontech stock when I had the chance.
Anyway, I really hope they're actually sucessful. Not only to get rid of Rona, but also because they're really heavily invested and have been sucessful in the past with cancer treatments. That's their focus for the future once the rona situation cooled down.
Mom just called me and said one of their closest friends passed away from COVID-19 today. Apparently he was feeling terrible this past Saturday and went to the hospital and was put on a respirator yesterday but it was too much for him. He leaves a wife and two sons - one just had a daughter last week too. RIP
By Laboured Go To Post'Let's all get it' - sohois
By Daz Go To PostHow old is 'Young' ?says mean age of 44
By Lunatic Go To Postsays mean age of 44So, young in terms of running for President.
By batong_doicare Go To Post'Let's all get it' - sohoisA 0.01% chance of death and a 0.01% chance of long term symptoms is still an utterly negligible risk
By sohois Go To PostA 0.01% chance of death and a 0.01% chance of long term symptoms is still an utterly negligible riskYou are going to have to show me these numbers.
Because the post that just came up paints quite a different picture
By blackace Go To PostYou are going to have to show me these numbers.There aren't really any numbers on prevalence yet, that's the thing. The above study just confirms that there are actual long term symptoms and it's not just psychosomatic. However, lots of viruses have very rare examples of people suffering serious after effects, so that would be our base rate.
Because the post that just came up paints quite a different picture
By sohois Go To PostA 0.01% chance of death and a 0.01% chance of long term symptoms is still an utterly negligible risk
By sohois Go To PostThere aren't really any numbers on prevalence yet, that's the thing
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostNo data on prevalence => You must make an estimate of risk => the best way to do this is to use base rates of other viral infections => these are extremely low => the starting point for prevalence of long term side effects is extremely low
By sohois Go To PostThere aren't really any numbers on prevalence yet, that's the thing. The above study just confirms that there are actual long term symptoms and it's not just psychosomatic. However, lots of viruses have very rare examples of people suffering serious after effects, so that would be our base rate.we're going to stop here
Well believe whatever you want. I'll stick to basic statistics, and you guys can follow whatever random number you pull out of a hat or something
By sohois Go To PostWell believe whatever you want. I'll stick to basic statistics, and you guys can follow whatever random number you pull out of a hat or somethinglike 0.01%
How are you going to be mad about statistics when you the quoting random numbers?
besides large proven percentages of people who have contracted other forms of SARS have had lingering conditions years after.
So if we are talking about following logic, it seems quite possible long term effects are not under 1% when the number for other forms was reported to be around 40% that is on the CDC website
By Daz Go To PostIf you watch the British version of Utopia - this Covid thing will have you so shook.Loved that show
Fucking hell.
By blackace Go To Postlike 0.01%I didn't figure we required references for casual posts here on a sports forum.
How are you going to be mad about statistics when you the quoting random numbers?
besides large proven percentages of people who have contracted other forms of SARS have had lingering conditions years after.
So if we are talking about following logic, it seems quite possible long term effects are not under 1% when the number for other forms was reported to be around 40% that is on the CDC website
And no, large proven percentages of SARS patients have not had lingering conditions. High rates of PTSD have been found, but nothing on physical impacts. There are certainly papers on nasty long term effects, but as with the above twitter post, all these studies lacked control groups and were done on survivors, i.e. hospitalized patients, of the virus. I've not seen any papers attempt to estimate rates of long term effects compared to total infections. From viruses that we do have prevalence estimates on, such as CMV or common influenza viruses, side effect percentages are very low.
There are some viruses where long term effects are more prevalent, such as Rubella, but these are also much more fatal, and in general fatality and long term seem to be linked so I doubt it would be any different in this case
Guess PTSD isn't real thank god for that.
Stats are all sports forums are about... But if you are going to claim an outlandish stat about a prevalent epidemic at least show your homework or don't claim it. Shit, we all want more information.
Stats are all sports forums are about... But if you are going to claim an outlandish stat about a prevalent epidemic at least show your homework or don't claim it. Shit, we all want more information.
Also I don't think PTSD is responsible for these results but maybe it is psychosomatic...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192220/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192220/
Conclusions: This 2‐year study of a selected population of SARS survivors, showed significant impairment of DLCO, exercise capacity and health status persisted, with a more marked adverse impact among HCW.
By blackace Go To PostAlso I don't think PTSD is responsible for these results but maybe it is psychosomatic…
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192220/
As I literally just said, this study and others like were done on a cohort of survivors. It merely looked at confirmed cases of hospitalized SARS patients. It makes no claims about % of SARS infections that lead to long term side effects.
By Laboured Go To Postm8 lives in Liverpool, what fresh air is he talking about?
By Laboured Go To PostNah he's one of those Northern Irish Liverpool fans ¬¬.
By sohois Go To PostAs I literally just said, this study and others like were done on a cohort of survivors. It merely looked at confirmed cases of hospitalized SARS patients. It makes no claims about % of SARS infections that lead to long term side effects.reads like it states theIr lungs aren't working as well as they used to
i just found out that a woman i know travels 2 hours three times a week to go grocery shopping in a city where she doesn't have to wear a mask.
Guy lived through the troubles and has only now become suspicious of the police. Maybe doing dodgy stuff was fine when it wasn't him on the end of it.
By Punished* Go To PostGuy lived through the troubles and has only now become suspicious of the police.
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By Facism Go To PostGod I love it when white people moan about the police.
By blackace Go To Postreads like it states theIr lungs aren't working as well as they used toIt does state that, but all that tells us is that the likelihood of negative long term side effects from SARS is not zero. The likelihood could still be anywhere from 0< x >100. This is getting well away from the original point in any case
By sohois Go To PostIt does state that, but all that tells us is that the likelihood of negative long term side effects from SARS is not zero. The likelihood could still be anywhere from 0< x >100. This is getting well away from the original point in any caseSo to recap, we know for sure there are negative side effects from SARS and that some of these studies report 40% of their subjects have negative side effects years after the fact and some how we get a number of 0.01%?
I still think the risk is much higher..