the team that scores more goals deserves to win
its a simple rule that apparently is too hard to comprehend
its a simple rule that apparently is too hard to comprehend
By FortuneFaded Go To PostBut you say it for matches where you were shit and deserved to lose like against Arsenal.Arsenal scored with two deflected crosses & the match stats were:
Possession - Arsenal 49% / United 51%
Shots - Arsenal 10 / United 10
Shots on target - Arsenal 4 / United 4
A draw was the fair result.
By Xpike Go To Postthe team that scores more goals deserves to winAnd here we come to the crux of the issue. The team that scores the most goals wins, it doesn't mean they deserved to win tho.
its a simple rule that apparently is too hard to comprehend
By Xpike Go To Postthe team that scores more goals deserves to winI wouldn't say it's that simple
its a simple rule that apparently is too hard to comprehend
By Doicare Go To PostArsenal scored with two deflected crosses & the match stats were:
Possession - Arsenal 49% / United 51%
Shots - Arsenal 10 / United 10
Shots on target - Arsenal 4 / United 4
A draw was the fair result.
By FortuneFaded Go To Posttherewego.gif
Just play the match, at the end look at shots and possession.
If one team had more of both, they get the 3 points
If both team had one each, they both get 1 points
By FortuneFaded Go To PostSo in that game how were United 'shit' & they 'deserved to lose'?
By Doicare Go To PostArsenal scored with two deflected crosses & the match stats were:
Possession - Arsenal 49% / United 51%
Shots - Arsenal 10 / United 10
Shots on target - Arsenal 4 / United 4
A draw was the fair result.
So which is it?
By Doicare Go To PostSo in that game how were United 'shit' & they 'deserved to lose'?They didn’t create any good chances. They had one shot in the entire first half. In the second half, they just hit shots from long distance. They were also sloppy at the back, like Hixx after a night out.
Edit: Look at Jesal’s graph and see all the 30 yarders by the likes of Fred which were never going to go in
By JesalR Go To PostYes Arsenal got slightly more expected goals in that game thanks to the two deflected crosses.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostThey didn’t create any good chances. They had one shot in the entire first half. In the second half, they just hit shots from long distance. They were also sloppy at the back, like Hixx after a night out.See above answer.
Edit: Look at Jesal’s graph and see all the 30 yarders by the likes of Fred which were never going to go in
By Doicare Go To PostSee above answer.I wasn't talking about xG.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostI wasn't talking about xG.To counter your point my point is apart from Arsenal's two deflected crosses they created zero good chances as well.
By Doicare Go To PostTo counter your point my point is apart from Arsenal's two deflected crosses they created zero good chances as well.Fuck you talking about?
Does hitting the post only matter when United do it?
By FortuneFaded Go To PostFuck you talking about?A 25 yard shot with 5 defenders behind the ball that ends up hitting the post is not a good chance.
Does hitting the post only matter when United do it?
By Doicare Go To PostA 25 yard shot with 5 defenders behind the ball that ends up hitting the post is not a good chance.Ok, so let's remove all of United's sighters in that game then.
By JesalR Go To PostOk, so let's remove all of United's sighters in that game then.Yep & the end result is both teams didn't deserve to score any goals in that game & a 0 - 0 was the fair result.
By Doicare Go To PostYep & the end result is both teams didn't deserve to score any goals in that game & a 0 - 0 was the fair result.So a team doesn’t deserve to score after the opposition goalkeeper can’t hold the ball? Should they all just stop play and let them goalkeeper reclaim the ball?
By FortuneFaded Go To PostSo a team doesn’t deserve to score after the opposition goalkeeper can’t hold the ball? Should they all just stop play and let them goalkeeper reclaim the ball?The deflection off the defender & the fact it dropped to an Arsenal player's feet was lucky.
Muller scores: Defenders not marking him, clearly undeserved
Klose scores: Keeper spills the ball, clearly unjust
Kroos scores: Muller tries to shoot and misses and kross capatilses, clearly unfair
Kroos scores: He had multiple defenders in front of him, clearly it was a lucky strike
Khadiera scores: He again had multiple defenders in front of him, so clearly it was another lucky strike
Schurrle scores: Lucky pass to get through the defenders, clearly undeserved
Schurrle scores: Off the bar and in, clearly lucky
Oscar scores: Can't see anything wrong there
Brazil deserved to win
Wow some people just can't handle the truth. Is anybody here with a straight face going to say that in both of Spurs games against City this season they weren't lucky at all? Also the irony of me posting the expected goals & then being told they are meaningless only to then have other people post expected goals from a different cherry picked game to try & prove me wrong is not lost on me.
By Doicare Go To PostWow some people just can't handle the truth. Is anybody here with a straight face going to say that in both of Spurs games against City this season they weren't lucky at all? Also the irony of me posting the expected goals & then being told they are meaningless only to then have other people post expected goals from a different cherry picked game to try & prove me wrong is not lost on me.Did you mention yesterday that Wolves had a higher xG than you?
By FortuneFaded Go To PostDid you mention yesterday that Wolves had a higher xG than you?You mean the game where the difference in expected goals was 0.3 & seeing as you can't actually score fractions of goals the fair result was a draw which is what the game ended up being. I'm glad you're suddenly basing your opinions on expected goals because now you can agree that overall United have been unlucky this season & should be in 4th because that's what the expected goals table shows them as.
I don’t give a shit about xG m8. I’ve never once used it to justify anything. I don’t like stats based sports.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostI don’t give a shit about xG m8. I’ve never once used it to justify anything. I don’t like stats based sports.Well fair enough that's your opinion but other people do like stats so if somebody posts some then just skip by them instead of repeating tonight's shenanigans.
By Flutter Go To Postgod i cant keep up.
On the Spurs game, they weren't lucky. City's defence and strikers were just shit.
Fixed.
By Doicare Go To PostArsenal scored with two deflected crosses & the match stats were:Those stats are fairly meaningless, when we had our chances we took them and when we had possession we did more with it. We let you have the ball in the second half but you barely put any attack together worth worrying about.
Possession - Arsenal 49% / United 51%
Shots - Arsenal 10 / United 10
Shots on target - Arsenal 4 / United 4
A draw was the fair result.
And here we come to the crux of the issue. The team that scores the most goals wins, it doesn't mean they deserved to win tho.
You can't just look at stats and say this is what the result should be, there's always more to it than that.
By Plasma Go To PostYou can't just look at stats and say this is what the result should be, there's always more to it than that.
What you have to understand is that doicare is a troll account, a very good one that still gets bites all thee years later. I mean, look at his avatar....
By Plasma Go To PostThose stats are fairly meaningless, when we had our chances we took them and when we had possession we did more with it. We let you have the ball in the second half but you barely put any attack together worth worrying about.Arsenal got their goals thanks to two lucky deflections, other than that Arsenal did nothing more with the ball than United did. Arsenal didn't let United have the ball they're just terrible at controlling games which has been the case for years now. Stats aren't everything but they're most things.
You can't just look at stats and say this is what the result should be, there's always more to it than that.
Edit: And all of this tedious back and forth conversation was started because people in this thread couldn't handle that Spurs have been extremely lucky with two freak results against City this season. Never change Slaent.
By Willkiller Go To PostWhat you have to understand is that doicare is a troll account, a very good one that still gets bites all thee years later. I mean, look at his avatar….You're one of the worst to argue back at him, Will.
Im losing respect for you...
By batong Go To PostYou're one of the worst to argue back at him, Will.
Im losing respect for you…
I know. I can't help myself. He's just that good.
Morning, lads.
lolerpool is no more. Welcome your new footballing Overlords, m8.
By Cleff Go To PostSancho and Soumare linked with Liverpool and Mbappe falling out with Tuchel.It’s only the beginning, Cleff. Everyone is going to be linked with them.
Bring me death.
lolerpool is no more. Welcome your new footballing Overlords, m8.
By Scum Go To PostMorning, lads.
It’s only the beginning, Cleff. Everyone is going to be linked with them.
lolerpool is no more. Welcome your new footballing Overlords, m8.
Liverpool fans, man
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Flutter pls