By NinjaFridge Go To PostIt will definitely be worth the £200bn it will end up costing.Definitely worth every penny as it adds 0 benefit to my local area. Created 0 jobs, lots of traffic, ruined countryside, ancient woodland cut down, establish paths cut in half or removed.
Sensational how hyper-capitalism has western populaces so whipped that otherwise sensible people will eagerly stuff the cock-meat of the nearest rich person down their throats.
Maybe they'll get rich if they swallow.
Maybe they'll get rich if they swallow.
By rerixo Go To Postgood to finally see some infrastructure investmentSeconded. Glad they're not giving way to NIMBYism.
If we want to decarbonise the transport sector, we're going to need to move people (and freight) away from private car travel and air travel, especially for internal trips. HS2 has never been about speed, it's about adding capacity to a line already stretched to its limits - one that ceases to function if there is a signal failure anywhere between Euston and Birmingham New Street (yes, seriously).
The route isn't perfect (I don't get why this skirts around Coventry, for example), but how much longer should we be prepared to wait? Perfect ought not to be the enemy of good.
I'm still waiting for the motorway that was supposed to replace the railway they ripped up in the 50's
By NinjaFridge Go To PostI'm still waiting for the motorway that was supposed to replace the railway they ripped up in the 50'sSo we should hold back HS2 until we build more motorways? What you've posted would be a good argument against the government tearing up more miles of track, I don't see how it applies when they want to lay more down.
I'm not a Tory, but not everything needs to be opposed.
By Roberto Larcos Go To PostI'm not a Tory, but
I’m not racist but…
My point was more along the lines of They'll spend well over £100bn on this when parts of the UK have been waiting over 60 years for promised work. I'm not even opposed to this in principal, it's hard to give a shit about it when they dont give a shit about you.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostI’m not racist but…So I can't want HS2 and not be a Tory? Well, fuck me, my local party will be pissed.
By Xpike Go To Postboth were fired for standing up to trump, tulsi just doesn't want to be on a listEhhhh Im 100% okay with a uniform standing with the Constitution and proper procedure but once you flip that into standing against a president because you disagree on a choice they're allowed to make then you've got a very different argument.
It's hard to say anything definitively about dude's situation really.
By DY_nasty Go To PostEhhhh Im 100% okay with a uniform standing with the Constitution and proper procedure but once you flip that into standing against a president because you disagree on a choice they're allowed to make then you've got a very different argument.
It's hard to say anything definitively about dude's situation really.
It's not that hard:
A. The president was only allowed to make the choice because of a complicit senate. The choice wasn't constitutionally allowed.
B. The President can pick and choose his cabinet.
C. Just because A exists and is acted upon, that doesn't mean B is overridden.
D. Politics is petty AF. Too bad so sad.
By DY_nasty Go To PostEhhhh Im 100% okay with a uniform standing with the Constitution and proper procedure but once you flip that into standing against a president because you disagree on a choice they're allowed to make then you've got a very different argument.And his brother, who was also fired? What did he do wrong?
It's hard to say anything definitively about dude's situation really.
By Roberto Larcos Go To PostAnd his brother, who was also fired? What did he do wrong?
See my B, C and D above.
By Roberto Larcos Go To PostAnd his brother, who was also fired? What did he do wrong?"Fired"?
They were getting moved regardless of the outcome. Don't let the grandstanding convince you something greater occured.
By Fenderputty Go To PostIt's not that hard:A is big tho.
A. The president was only allowed to make the choice because of a complicit senate. The choice wasn't constitutionally allowed.
B. The President can pick and choose his cabinet.
C. Just because A exists and is acted upon, that doesn't mean B is overridden.
D. Politics is petty AF. Too bad so sad.
We agree mostly... Just couldn't ever really get a solid grasp on Vindman.
I haven't seen a party as cowardly as the Republicans since the last time I looked across the aisle at the Democrats.
By i can get you a toe Go To PostDNC really shook about Medicaid/Medicare for all.They don't need to do shit to stop it, 0 chance the Dems win a majority in the senate, and 0 chance any Rs vote for it. Hell, 0 chance all Ds vote for it.
By Roberto Larcos Go To PostThey don't need to do shit to stop it, 0 chance the Dems win a majority in the senate, and 0 chance any Rs vote for it. Hell, 0 chance all Ds vote for it.that's not the point at all though
dems are self-immolating at the idea of having a candidate who will go that far left. its not even about how likely something is going to pass or npt (as if the democrats have that sort of long term planning capability)
Establishment types don't want Sanders to do to the party what Trump did to the GOP. It will still take 2-3 election cycle landslide wins for libs to get M4A through congress but baby steps is how this works.
By Fenderputty Go To PostEstablishment types don't want Sanders to do to the party what Trump did to the GOP.comrade pls
as if dems would ever stay on code like that even during the best of times. don't give the dnc credit they don't deserve after all this lol
By DY_nasty Go To Postcomrade pls
as if dems would ever stay on code like that even during the best of times. don't give the dnc credit they don't deserve after all this lol
Doesn't take much thought to come to that conclusion. He's not a dem. He's could swap to independent the moment he's elected and you know he'll call out the centrists. He's loud and brash.
By Fenderputty Go To PostDoesn't take much thought to come to that conclusion. He's not a dem. He's could swap to independent the moment he's elected and you know he'll call out the centrists. He's loud and brash.He's dem enough to win their votes tho
If Sanders or Trump win you'll get good odds for neither of them finishing their term. You're looking at a walking heart attack and a guy with recent experience. Point is, Sanders can go full independent, but chances are he'll be unelectable by 2024. He's an old man in a hurry.
By Fenderputty Go To PostDoesn't take much thought to come to that conclusion. He's not a dem. He's could swap to independent the moment he's elected and you know he'll call out the centrists. He's loud and brash.Why would he do that? As leader of the Democrats he would have massive influence to dictate the party and bend it to his will, like Trump does with the GOP.
They'll never allow a president to validate far left progressives again thingsarefine.jpg. Can't compare it to Trump - who beat the republicans at their own game by sacrificing a Bush son on the altar and making Romney kiss the ring.
The democrats would straight up take a horrific loss this election and lose voters they may never get back than go all in on an extreme... if it meant sOcIaLiSm
Chris Matthews out here acting like Bernie would invite famine upon us all
The democrats would straight up take a horrific loss this election and lose voters they may never get back than go all in on an extreme... if it meant sOcIaLiSm
Chris Matthews out here acting like Bernie would invite famine upon us all
lol
america's socialism alarm doesn't go off often but when it does you better be inside and reading the fucking bible
america's socialism alarm doesn't go off often but when it does you better be inside and reading the fucking bible
It's kind of like the Onion thing on guns ... can't be done, says the only nation on the planet not doing it
By Perfect Blue Go To PostWhy would he do that? .Cause he's not a democrat and has done this for every election ever in the senate?
By n8 dogg Go To PostStone stuff is unbelievable
I'm incapable of shock now.
By n8 dogg Go To PostStone stuff is unbelievableNo it's not.
By Pac-12 Go To PostDY, come get your boycommander in chief doing commander in chief things.
Oh, and a bunch of prosecutors on the Stone case are resigning today.
i've been numb to that sort of thing since bergdahl's trial got fucked
By Fenderputty Go To PostCause he's not a democrat and has done this for every election ever in the senate?not feeling very democratic today are we lol
he got the votes of the party. who's fault is that?
By Fenderputty Go To PostCause he's not a democrat and has done this for every election ever in the senate?Senate isn't the presidency. Sanders isn't stupid he's going to want the resources the DNC has and the mould the party to his image.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostSenate isn't the presidency. Sanders isn't stupid he's going to want the resources the DNC has and the mould the party to his image.when you put it like that.... yeah, self-immolation is certain
By DY_nasty Go To Postwhen you put it like that…. yeah, self-immolation is certainOh well yeah, they're gonna do everything they can to stop him winning lol, just saying in the event that he did win.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostSanders isn't stupid he's going to want the resources the DNC has and the mould the party to his image.
So I guess we're kinda talking past each other because …
I said establishment types don't want him to Trump the party. So I think he could shake things up in the DNC. I think switching to independent is leverage though and one way to do just that. Just go full populist and shit all over the dnc for 4 years. Probably easier than playing form within tbh
By Fenderputty Go To PostSo I guess we're kinda talking past each other because …I see what you mean, fair enough.
I said establishment types don't want him to Trump the party. So I think he could shake things up in the DNC. I think switching to independent is leverage though and one way to do just that. Just go full populist and shit all over the dnc for 4 years. Probably easier than playing form within tbh
That would be hella fucked up, though. Would ruin all the other D candidates who didn't do anything wrong. Of course, Sanders never gives off a vibe that he cares about down ballot candidates...
Does it ruin people or force the DNC and others to get on board? How quickly did the GOP start backing tariffs and pulling out of free trade deals? Sanders, or any progressive for that matter, needs a cult like following a la trump to get anything done. He needs a DNC afraid to cross him or lose power. Fuckin Rule of law party shitting on the FBI and asking if we've made it too easy to spy on people. loololololloll