Honestly, they had to do something that didn't suggest pioneering (which would step on private venture toes) or something that seemed too assertive. They could've done worse.
By Laboured Go To Postl o l
By Fenderputty Go To PostI don’t know, but DY coulda been one if he was born a decade or so laterit hurts ngl. but i actually pussied out of navy enlistment as soon as i saw the videos on their training regarding how to prepare/prevent fires. space + fire? fuck that..... maybe if i was born in 2040 i'd be more hyped
By Xpike Go To PostQuestion: What are the Guardians supposed to doits only gonna be cute to think protecting orbital properties/assets doesn't matter for a few more months or years really.... historically, just look at nations who could expand over open waters vs those who couldn't.
By Xpike Go To PostQuestion: What are the Guardians supposed to doThey wield the traveler's light.
he ain't wrong tho
not sure if keeping up the act on hong kong is even worth it at this point either... the whole world took a hard pass on that
not sure if keeping up the act on hong kong is even worth it at this point either... the whole world took a hard pass on that
By DY_nasty Go To Posthe ain't wrong thoDude's argument for it is that the CCP will use to bring spies in lol so stupid.
not sure if keeping up the act on hong kong is even worth it at this point either… the whole world took a hard pass on that
By Perfect Blue Go To PostDude's argument for it is that the CCP will use to bring spies in lol so stupid.is that not a problem? wtf
By DY_nasty Go To Postis that not a problem? wtfWtf what? It's an asinine argument with no basis in reality. Same kind of braindead crap the US used to not let in refugees from Syria and the Middle East. Only now ISIS super soldiers getting in, is swapped in for Chinese spies to deny other people asylum, rinse and repeat and the US public buys it. Chinese spies are already in y'all's country and they're not getting in through incredibly convoluted immigration schemes lol come on, man.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostWtf what? It's an asinine argument with no basis in reality. Same kind of braindead crap the US used to not let in refugees from Syria and the Middle East. Only now ISIS super soldiers getting in, is swapped in for Chinese spies to deny other people asylum, rinse and repeat and the US public buys it. Chinese spies are already in y'all's country and they're not getting in through incredibly convoluted immigration schemes lol come on, man........ so make shit easier? cmon now lol. "they're already fucking you, so just keep getting fucked" is not something someone should roll with. and also, last i checked we have the luxury of focusing on domestic terrorists instead of being forced into a purely reactionary state like most of europe is. but that's a whole different tangent
so let me clarify a bit - i think that the show of hong kong support from the rest of the world has been pathetic for years. making a dramatic display of anything at this point is laughably past due. the current problem that's real, significant, and actionable is china being all up in our shit. imo this is about choosing to focus on an ongoing problem or some comical portrayal of support that's long since eroded into nothing.
By DY_nasty Go To Post……. so make shit easier? cmon now lol. "they're already fucking you, so just keep getting fucked" is not something someone should roll with. and also, last i checked we have the luxury of focusing on domestic terrorists instead of being forced into a purely reactionary state like most of europe is. but that's a whole different tangentI don't think it would be easier for HKers to get asylum in the US even with some expedited process because your immigration system is still absurdly convoluted. So I think this reasoning from Cruz is pure nonsense and doesn't hold any water. Foreign operatives already get in through, a lot easier means on a short-term basis vs. what would presumable be a permanent and lengthy asylum/settlement process. Like I said, it's the same kind of farce that denied asylum to countless people in the Middle East.
so let me clarify a bit - i think that the show of hong kong support from the rest of the world has been pathetic for years. making a dramatic display of anything at this point is laughably past due. the current problem that's real, significant, and actionable is china being all up in our shit. imo this is about choosing to focus on an ongoing problem or some comical portrayal of support that's long since eroded into nothing.
The bolded I agree with and it's mostly true, but that's because the west doesn't actually care about the territory beyond using it as an entrepôt for free trade and money laundering. and people will still be making money over there regardless of the NSL and the events of the last 18 months.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostI don't think it would be easy for HKers to get asylum in the US even with some expedited process because your immigration system is still absurdly convoluted. So I think this reasoning from Cruz is pure nonsense and doesn't hold any water. Foreign operatives already get in through, a lot easier means on a short-term basis vs. what would presumable be a permanent and lengthy asylum/settlement process. Like I said, it's the same kind of farce that denied asylum to countless people in the Middle East.Its really not that convoluted compared to a ton of other places... asylum isn't even the issue either. And historically, the issues with immigrating from China to the US has always been on China's end.
The bolded I agree with and it's mostly true, but that's because the west doesn't actually care about the territory beyond using it as an entrepôt for free trade and money laundering.
And lol how you gonna say it holds no water when you say yourself that the US has a problem? Why add to a problem to pretend like the illusion of a real fuck given over Hong Kong is worth anything? World leaders said they'd rather people donate likes and retweets than any envision any sort of tangible resolution that protected HK.
Immigration/Path to citizenship/asylum all have different shortcomings but I wouldn't sweep so broadly with them here.
By DY_nasty Go To PostIts really not that convoluted compared to a ton of other places… asylum isn't even the issue either. And historically, the issues with immigrating from China to the US has always been on China's end.Because the two things are largely unrelated, just like ISIS or Al Qaeda sleeper cells haven't came in to the country through the asylum process... because it is too convoluted and lengthy. Cruz himself knows the argument is nonsense.
And lol how you gonna say it holds no water when you say yourself that the US has a problem? Why add to a problem to pretend like the illusion of a real fuck given over Hong Kong is worth anything? World leaders said they'd rather people donate likes and retweets than any envision any sort of tangible resolution that protected HK.
Immigration/Path to citizenship/asylum all have different shortcomings but I wouldn't sweep so broadly with them here.
There's also the fact that the process would require lengthy background checks. Is the US state so weak it doesn't believe in its own vetting and immigration/asylum processes?
By Perfect Blue Go To PostBecause the two things are largely unrelated, just like ISIS or Al Qaeda sleeper cells haven't came in to the country through the asylum process… because it is too convoluted and lengthy. Cruz himself knows the argument is nonsense.bruh.
we overcorrected on that one so fucking hard that we have to convince people that we might have crossed the line there. germany and france are having to break up a cell with active plans every few months whereas we have to remind people that they can't just call federal agencies over parking disputes whenever a brown person is involved. shit, even australira had to get out in front of things again.
if you think the us process for immigration is lengthy and convoluted then you should compare it to other nations as well. seriously. twitter got yal fucked up on that note
and what is wrong with background checks? lol. fucking hell. the process isn't some set in stone thing - coming from vietnam isn't the same as coming from el salvador. much in the same way that coming over to avoid the violence of drug war and make ends meet for your kids isn't the same as coming to research ai development for turkey or something...
i get yal hate cruz becuase (r) = bad but cmon. it should never make you say background checks are bad
By DY_nasty Go To Postbruh.Hm? I never said background checks are bad lol. It's the fact that they are so extensive that makes infiltrating the country through that process pointless and time consuming. This kind of process would have background checks to make sure nefarious actors don't get in. It's in that specific article that the background checks to grant Hongkongers refugee status would be extensive in the event that the bill passed...
we overcorrected on that one so fucking hard that we have to convince people that we might have crossed the line there. germany and france are having to break up a cell with active plans every few months whereas we have to remind people that they can't just call federal agencies over parking disputes whenever a brown person is involved. shit, even australira had to get out in front of things again.
if you think the us process for immigration is lengthy and convoluted then you should compare it to other nations as well. seriously. twitter got yal fucked up on that note
and what is wrong with background checks? lol. fucking hell. the process isn't some set in stone thing - coming from vietnam isn't the same as coming from el salvador. much in the same way that coming over to avoid the violence of drug war and make ends meet for your kids isn't the same as coming to research ai development for turkey or something…
i get yal hate cruz becuase (r) = bad but cmon. it should never make you say background checks are bad
By Perfect Blue Go To PostHm? I never said background checks are bad lol. This kind of process would have background checks to make sure nefarious actors don't get in. It's in that specific article that the background checks to grant Hongkongers refugee status would be extensive in the event that the bill passed…the problem is in how there's always this ridiculous urge to make something new when existing processes don't even work properly - and its based on public reaction that's either disingenuous or inherently poorly directed
hong kong as a conflict point has been over with since march. while the rest of the world was looking for masks and ventilators, china continued not giving a fuck and ended the discussion for good.
so why open up some new avenue for 'hong kong' when we have our hands full with existing channels as well?
By DY_nasty Go To Postthe problem is in how there's always this ridiculous urge to make something new when existing processes don't even work properly - and its based on public reaction that's either disingenuous or inherently poorly directedOkay, well if you believe the system is poor and not able to do what it is supposed to do i.e. stop nefarious actors from coming in, I can understand your hesitancy from that perspective.
hong kong as a conflict point has been over with since march. while the rest of the world was looking for masks and ventilators, china continued not giving a fuck and ended the discussion for good.
so why open up some new avenue for 'hong kong' when we have our hands full with existing channels as well?
and holy fuck isis/al-q present completely different problem sets compared to china. i need milk for that lol
treating what's left of hong kong like its even hong kong from 2 years ago is pouring jelly on yourself. china probably laughing and waiting for attention to come back around
By Perfect Blue Go To PostOkay, well if you believe the system is poor and not able to do what it is supposed to do i.e. stop nefarious actors from coming in, I can understand your hesitancy from that perspective.its really not even just that
treating what's left of hong kong like its even hong kong from 2 years ago is pouring jelly on yourself. china probably laughing and waiting for attention to come back around
By Fenderputty Go To PostShocked SHOckedI mean it's not like they could be terrorists or anything, Fender; they're white.
Downplaying white supremacy… noooooo can’t be
Mass exodus likened to the ‘last train from Saigon’ sees families flee London ahead of Christmas lockdown misery – as PM Boris Johnson's critics mockingly congratulate him for causing the city's 'first evacuation since The Blitz'
i do wish we had headlines like uk news outlets at times
By JesalR Go To PostEveryone leaving London is a fuckheadI wholeheartedly agree.
People can't comprehend having one Christmas by themselves. I've done it the last four times, you'll be fine.
By Punished* Go To PostI wholeheartedly agree.this woman looks 30 at best so her mother is like 65. plenty of christmases to be had.
By Punished* Go To PostI wholeheartedly agree.touching, but it also means that she could accidentally infect her mother with covid.
Boris and his cabal of short-sighted pals gotta take some of the responsibility here.
That announcement with mere hours as a deadline was a starting pistol.
This should have been announced thursday night at the earliest.
That announcement with mere hours as a deadline was a starting pistol.
This should have been announced thursday night at the earliest.
By DiPro Go To Postthis woman looks 30 at best so her mother is like 65. plenty of christmases to be had.Unless she kills her at this one
By Perfect Blue Go To PostUnless she kills her at this one
By Daz Go To PostBoris and his cabal of short-sighted pals gotta take some of the responsibility here.They've been a shambles at handling it, but people need to take a level of personal responsibility. We know the South East is a hotbed for a new strain, stop being such fuckers and stay at home
That announcement with mere hours as a deadline was a starting pistol.
This should have been announced thursday night at the earliest.