2015 NBA Playoffs |OT| ...but diehard

Raps vs Cavs in eastern finals, lets go!

Wishfully hoping for the Raps vs the Spurs in the finals.

WIshfully.

kuma have faith man................. we end season the best way...

i think celtics will shock the world......................    only referrers can stop us.....................         even if we loose. this celtics team will be a contender next season kuma..............       mark this.......  this core celtics teams will be a contender soon........... i am ready hope good games.

By Vahagn Go To Post Haters. Haters everywhere. As far as the eye can see

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

To fertygo, would love to see Chicago win a ring with Rose. Beating Cleveland to get their is even better.

By romrei Go To Post

kuma have faith man................. we end season the best way...

i think celtics will shock the world......................    only referrers can stop us.....................         even if we loose. this celtics team will be a contender next season kuma..............       mark this.......  this core celtics teams will be a contender soon........... i am ready hope good games.

excuses for when you lose already setting in?

By RBK Go To Post

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

To fertygo, would love to see Chicago win a ring with Rose. Beating Cleveland to get their is even better.

I never contest that peeps hate the rockets, in fact I admit it. 

By DY_nasty Go To Post monta gonna shred houston omg

Define "shred".

By RBK Go To Post

Define "shred".

30 ppg, 42 mpg, 49%TS

The Kobe Shred

By Vahagn Go To Post Why are people jumping on the Mavs over HOU bandwagon. That's my spot

I think people are just jumping on the Rockets losing bandwagon moreso than the Mavs winning.

By fertygo Go To Post Even if you hate rox why would you support team that trade for Rondo tho..

because harden sux

By fertygo Go To Post Even if you hate rox why would you support team that trade for Rondo tho..

Because Dirk and Monta have it all are infinitely funner to root for than Harden and Dwight. 

Because even though I'm supposed to hate Rondo for being on THAT team and helping steal one of our chips, him signing in LA seems damn near inevitable based on certain media reports, so this is me slowly warming up to him out of necessity. 

Mostly though, it's because Dallas does everything that's right with basketball and Houston does everything that's wrong. 

No, Dallas doesn't do everything right with wasting years of Dirk  just after he gifted them championship.. I really mad to their organization  because of that tbh..
Opposed of that when you look to current Houston situation, their flexible as shit cap... I can't help but admire what they build. Always nice to see the coherent plan that built club nicely to title chase.

Fertygo, 

you have first round fodder confused with title chasing. The Mavs won a chip, Houston did nothing. Since then the Mavs have won more games than the Rockets have in the post season and they'll win more games this season too. 

But I was talking about on the court stuff, not off the court stuff. 

By fertygo Go To Post Even if you hate rox why would you support team that trade for Rondo tho..

This guy gets it.

this post season is depressing.

LAC will get stomped on,

Dirk will get stomped on,

SAS will not repeat,

Bulls will fall appart,

we can't goof on the first-round-Rockets no more.

At least i'm cool with GSW chippin' and hopefully against the Hawks. 

By thekad Go To Post Vag is running away with Least Valuable Poster.

A guy that doesnt troll and wants to at least talk basketball (even if its 80% about Kobe/Triangle) is the LVP?

fuck that

By diehard Go To Post

A guy that doesnt troll and wants to at least talk basketball (even if its 80% about Kobe/Triangle) is the LVP?

fuck that

Awww schucks

By diehard Go To Post

A guy that doesnt troll and wants to at least talk basketball (even if its 80% about Kobe/Triangle) is the LVP?

fuck that

+1. And I thought we agreed to drop the vag moniker 

By diehard Go To Post

A guy that doesnt troll and wants to at least talk basketball (even if its 80% about Kobe/Triangle) is the LVP?

fuck that

Doesn't troll? Either this is a tired ass troll attempt or an objectively terrible post absent of logic:

By Vahagn Go To Post

Fertygo, 

you have first round fodder confused with title chasing. The Mavs won a chip, Houston did nothing. Since then the Mavs have won more games than the Rockets have in the post season and they'll win more games this season too. 

But I was talking about on the court stuff, not off the court stuff. 

I hope to God it's the former.

By Red Blaster Go To Post a guy who routinely derails discussion because he's a basketball luddite who doesn't know how advanced stats work is certainly deserving of lvp

I understand how advanced stats work about 300 X more than you understand how basketball works. 

But you're Red Blaster. The only thing you've ever contributed to any basketball forum is salt. So you're not worth the argument. 

(Good usage of the word Luddite though, impressive vocab). 

By Vahagn Go To Post

Fertygo, 

you have first round fodder confused with title chasing. The Mavs won a chip, Houston did nothing. Since then the Mavs have won more games than the Rockets have in the post season and they'll win more games this season too. 

But I was talking about on the court stuff, not off the court stuff. 

If we count Harden's first season, the Rockets have actually won more playoff games, 4 to 3.  This is again Harden/Howard's 2ND POSTSEASON together.

Please stop being stupid.

By RBK Go To Post  

If we count Harden's first season, the Rockets have actually won more playoff games, 4 to 3.  This is again Harden/Howard's 2ND POSTSEASON together.

Please stop being stupid.

Sorry for not being clear. I meant more games in any post season not in all of them cumulatively. Houston's capped out at 2 twice. Dallas has won 3.  If you're arguing for building a championship contender, you should win more playoff games than the team you're dismissing. 

Taking the eventual champions to 7 games was more impressive than anything Houston has done in the postseason in the Harden era. 

By Vahagn Go To Post

Sorry for not being clear. I meant more games in any post season not in all of them cumulatively. Houston's capped out at 2 twice. Dallas has won 3.  If you're arguing for building a championship contender, you should win more playoff games than the team you're dismissing. 

Taking the eventual champions to 7 games was more impressive than anything Houston has done in the postseason in the Harden era. 

I mean I understand there's not a lot to talk about until tomorrow but look at this shit right here. An argument over literally nothing that started on Vag's theory that Dallas is everything that is right in basketball and Houston is everything that's wrong. And this will go on for two more pages.

l.v.p.

i lay on wounded knees and spread cheeks to accept deep ramming

You didn't mean that, but whatever you need to support your end of the argument.  It's only impressive if you want to live off moral victories.

Fact is both teams have been first round fodder since Dallas won in the Finals.  Again we've only had one season with Harden/Howard, no one thought we were going to beat OKC to begin with.  We should have beaten Portland, we were probably favorites.  

Outside of that, your argument is as flawed as always.

By thekad Go To Post

I mean I understand there's not a lot to talk about until tomorrow but look at this shit right here. An argument over literally nothing that started on Vag's theory that Dallas is everything that is right in basketball and Houston is everything that's wrong. And this will go on for two more pages.

l.v.p.

It's even more sad because most likely NO ONE outside of Dallas fans thought they were going to beat the Heat.

I'll give them credit all the time, that team had a amazing postseason.  

Pre game Houston salt already in effect here led by Admiral Vahagan

Hate on the Southwest division champs some more yall 

Make it even harder on yourself when you see Clown Dwight advance 

By thekad Go To Post

Doesn't troll? Either this is a tired ass troll attempt or an objectively terrible post absent of logic

- Offenses would be better if they shot more mid-range jumpers

- The key to winning a championship is maintaining a 110+ ORTG

- Danny Ainge had no effect on Ryan McDonough or Daryl Morey AT ALL

- Corey Brewer, Josh Smith, KJ McDaniels and Pablo Prigioni were brought in by Morey for their 3-point shooting

These are the things I wasted my time trying to fathom. It was only after a Pelicans fan spent 3 pages defending Morey that I realised how much of a waste it was. Thanks Jonm.

By Vahagn Go To Post

I understand how advanced stats work about 300 X more than you understand how basketball works. 

But you're Red Blaster. The only thing you've ever contributed to any basketball forum is salt. So you're not worth the argument. 

(Good usage of the word Luddite though, impressive vocab). 

lawl, mamba had to walk you through how to interpret srs like two days ago

By Dark PhaZe Go To Post

i lay on wounded knees and spread cheeks to accept deep ramming

Ernie won't be gentle

By psychintellect Go To Post

Ernie won't be gentle

Oh

By romrei Go To Post

kuma have faith man................. we end season the best way...

i think celtics will shock the world......................    only referrers can stop us.....................         even if we loose. this celtics team will be a contender next season kuma..............       mark this.......  this core celtics teams will be a contender soon........... i am ready hope good games.

Oh I believe in the future, just don t believe in the now.

By RBK Go To Post

You didn't mean that, but whatever you need to support your end of the argument.  It's only impressive if you want to live off moral victories.

Fact is both teams have been first round fodder since Dallas won in the Finals.  Again we've only had one season with Harden/Howard, no one thought we were going to beat OKC to begin with.  We should have beaten Portland, we were probably favorites.  

Outside of that, your argument is as flawed as always.

Yea I did. I never said Dallas made more post season appearances. I didn't word it as clearly as I should have. It's only moral fodder if that's all there is to hold on to. But Dallas just chipped. And they spent the better part of a decade being perennial playoff threats. Kind of hard to make the argument that Dallas is fucking up from a management perspective and Houston isn't when Dallas already got to where Houston is trying to go just very recently. 

But, find a million and one ways to hype up your team that's accomplished all of nothing and tear down every other team because that's what you do. 

The Cult of Morey and Waco level obsession with putting spin to your playoff ineptitude is in full force. And you've brought reinforcements. 

By Red Blaster Go To Post

lawl, mamba had to walk you through how to interpret srs like two days ago

No. He was talking about projected wins. Which, while derived from point differential, isn't point differential. Nor is it point differential adjusted for strength of schedule. But we had this SRS debate in the past. I find it to be more or less useless. Hold on to it, believe in it, I couldn't care less. 

Even with my mistakes, I still understand advanced stats better than you understand basketball. Because other than salt and Kobe trolling, you've shown nothing resembling an understanding of basketball. 

But I guess if you never say anything, you can fool yourself into believing people think you're smart. 

By Smokey Go To Post

Oh

when you beat the mavs and morey wins his little vendetta, do you think there's a scenario where McHale doesn't get a three year extension?

By chandlerparsons Go To Post

- Offenses would be better if they shot more mid-range jumpers

- The key to winning a championship is maintaining a 110+ ORTG

- Danny Ainge had no effect on Ryan McDonough or Daryl Morey AT ALL

- Corey Brewer, Josh Smith, KJ McDaniels and Pablo Prigioni were brought in by Morey for their 3-point shooting

These are the things I wasted my time trying to fathom. It was only after a Pelicans fan spent 3 pages defending Morey that I realised how much of a waste it was. Thanks Jonm.

I would say you misrepresent my positions. But all you do is occasionally pop in to latch on to whatever arbitrary data point you can muster to deepthroat Morey with. 

But by all means, I hope your organization keeps shooting the fewest mid range shots, keeps losing in the first and second round, and you keep coming up with a million and one excuses. But hey, you mentioned ORTG, so you must be smart. 

By thekad Go To Post Vag is running away with Least Valuable Poster.

You're the Michael Jordan of LVPs.

The only time you don't win an LVP is when we get bored with you.

Honestly, Rockets-slaent is worse than first year Lebron Heat-Gaf. 

Accomplish a goddamn bit of something before you start demanding respect and bitching that people are picking against you in a series. 

By Dark PhaZe Go To Post

when you beat the mavs and morey wins his little vendetta, do you think there's a scenario where McHale doesn't get a three year extension?

Another 3 year extension on top of the one morey blessed him with earlier this year ? Or did you forget that actually happened because I try to all the time.

Also rox bros please stop giving vahagn the time of day. 

By Smokey Go To Post

Another 3 year extension on top of the one lorry blessed him with earlier this year ?

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By Vahagn Go To Post

Yea I did. I never said Dallas made more post season appearances. I didn't word it as clearly as I should have. It's only moral fodder if that's all there is to hold on to. But Dallas just chipped. And they spent the better part of a decade being perennial playoff threats. Kind of hard to make the argument that Dallas is fucking up from a management perspective and Houston isn't when Dallas already got to where Houston is trying to go just very recently. 

But, find a million and one ways to hype up your team that's accomplished all of nothing and tear down every other team because that's what you do. 

The Cult of Morey and Waco level obsession with putting spin to your playoff ineptitude is in full force. And you've brought reinforcements. 

Who even criticized Dallas' front office?  Do you like to imagine shit up?  I'm just going to state I'm not debating this with you after this post because literally every one goes in circles:

You and many have criticized Morey not showing "loyalty"(committing long term contracts) to players...yet Cuban let go I think like 7 players the following season after winning a ring.  That's unprecedented.  You want to tell me now it's OK that Dallas hasn't repeated or even got out of the first round since then?  That is a flawed argument.

This current Dallas team has accomplished nothing...yet you want to tell me they'll "upset" the Rockets because Carlisle/Dirk/Chandler/etc. have a ring to back up the claim.  That is a flawed argument. 

We had the better regular season record.  We won the season series 3-1.  We are the better defensive team. There's no reason for us to lose this series unless Houston falls into their underachieving ways again, which isn't farfetched to say could happen given the team's history or even last postseason.

Either you have a real strong negative bias towards Houston/Harden/Howard or you're truly that ignorant.

By RBK Go To Post

Who even criticized Dallas' front office?  Do you like to imagine shit up?  I'm just going to state I'm not debating this with you after this post because literally every one goes in circles:

You and many have criticized Morey not showing "loyalty"(committing long term contracts) to players...yet Cuban let go I think like 7 players the following season after winning a ring.  That's unprecedented.  You want to tell me now it's OK that Dallas hasn't repeated or even got out of the first round since then?  That is a flawed argument.

This current Dallas team has accomplished nothing...yet you want to tell me they'll "upset" the Rockets because Carlisle/Dirk/Chandler/etc. have a ring to back up the claim.  That is a flawed argument. 

We had the better regular season record.  We won the season series 3-1.  We are the better defensive team. There's no reason for us to lose this series unless Houston falls into their underachieving ways again, which isn't farfetched to say could happen given the team's history or even last postseason.

Either you have a real strong negative bias towards Houston/Harden/Howard or you're truly that ignorant.

Fertygo did. I responded. You butted in. How do you not see what happened? 

No, I don't think they're going to win because they have a ring. I've already explained why I think they're going to win in other posts in other threads, even in this thread too. 

Dallas letting guys go instead of committing long term after a lockout with a completely different set of bargaining agreements before anyone's really had a chance to digest it isn't the same as a multi-year pattern of behavior and a standard way of doing business because it's "smarter". 

Because yes, Dallas, the organization that has had Carlisle coaching for almost a decade, Dirk for almost 2, Donnie Nelson in the fold for decades, even when his dad was there. Plus Dudes like Marion and others that have been around longer than ANYONE on this current Rockets squad - and that's the team you want to go with when discussing personnel turnover as compared to the Rockets? 

I'm not touching Morey specifically any more. He's like a sacred cow to you people. 

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